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    Vintage Seiko 6139

    Came across this yesterday as I wandered the streets. What are the collective thoughts? Could there be a hidden gem under that scratched crystal or best to avoid?

    Looks all original to me.




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    I'm no expert but that looks pretty good to me. Is it reasonably priced?

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    Price was hidden by the watch stand but I will pop by again in the week to enquire.




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    Check that the chrono works OK and also that the inner bezel turns properly.

    Also that the day/date works which is activated by a double push on the recessed crown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    Check that the chrono works OK and also that the inner bezel turns properly.

    Also that the day/date works which is activated by a double push on the recessed crown.
    Thanks Neil, I watched a couple of videos which mentioned these points too.

    Are the crystals mineral on these or plexiglass - anyone know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenko View Post
    Thanks Neil, I watched a couple of videos which mentioned these points too.

    Are the crystals mineral on these or plexiglass - anyone know?
    Mineral so might need a new one. I think Bry on here said he was getting some.

    Be interesting to know what they’re asking for it and if there was any service history.

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    I’ve had 2 of these in the past 18 months, both bought from a collector friend of mine so the prices were very reasonable. I think I paid around £475-£500 a piece and both were in exceptional condition. I’m guessing a dealer will want his chunk on top but they’re not overly hard to find in the second hand market. Definitely a cool watch for a relatively small amount of money.

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    The problem with the ‘Pogue’ is the number of examples with aftermarket bezels, dials, hands, whatever so they look pristine but they’re not really a 6139.

    Finding all original at reasonable price is the trick. Handy if you have a collector mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Mineral so might need a new one. I think Bry on here said he was getting some.

    Be interesting to know what they’re asking for it and if there was any service history.
    Thanks re: crystal

    I’ll check it out in the week. It’s in an antique store so expect no history regarding servicing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    The problem with the ‘Pogue’ is the number of examples with aftermarket bezels, dials, hands, whatever so they look pristine but they’re not really a 6139.

    Finding all original at reasonable price is the trick. Handy if you have a collector mate
    I'd rather pay extra for a watch that is original, even if it shows its age...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenko View Post
    I'd rather pay extra for a watch that is original, even if it shows its age...
    It’s interesting how we have different viewpoints as watch geeks. With this model, I view them as cheap working watches and expect that parts would have been replaced at service intervals over the years so am happy to consider a well looked after clean ‘franken’ watch. Such a cool series of watches, I’m on the hunt for my second.


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    Nice sharp case ,good bezel if it works I would buy it for a few hundred .
    I don't think you could go wrong at that price.
    You would probably pay more from eBay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    It’s interesting how we have different viewpoints as watch geeks. With this model, I view them as cheap working watches and expect that parts would have been replaced at service intervals over the years so am happy to consider a well looked after clean ‘franken’ watch. Such a cool series of watches, I’m on the hunt for my second.


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    Yes, we are all different in this regard. I appreciate that movement parts will have been changed but would prefer dial, hands, bezel, case etc to be as original as possible. In a watch like this where aftermarket parts are readily available, it's nice to see what appears to be an original watch on offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo12 View Post
    Nice sharp case ,good bezel if it works I would buy it for a few hundred .
    I don't think you could go wrong at that price.
    You would probably pay more from eBay!
    I will check out the price this week but having looked around, an original crystal is £100+, then you have to get it fitted.

    I expect that this will have a premium due to the fact that it is in a shop but at least there is someone to talk to prior to purchase.

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    Is the crystal cracked ?, I can't quite see from the photos, I have a proof dial non pouge and my mineral glass is scratched in a couple of areas.
    After looking around on Google people have had good results polishing with diamond paste and Dremel.
    This is what I'm going to do with mine . It won't be perfect but it's better than paying out for a original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo12 View Post
    Is the crystal cracked ?, I can't quite see from the photos, I have a proof dial non pouge and my mineral glass is scratched in a couple of areas.
    After looking around on Google people have had good results polishing with diamond paste and Dremel.
    I don't think it's cracked but can see what looks like a chip below the 80 marker on the bezel. I too am aware of diamond paste so that could be a first port of call before replacing.

    Will have a closer look when I go back in.

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    Three years ago I went down this road and got a Pogue. I had mine fully overhauled and that cost me £450. Needed new crown and crystal but all else was OK.

    Its stated above, the crown on these pushes once in for date adjust and you sort of push harder in for day adjust. Its a delicate enough mechanism and I dont really wear mine much now for fear of damage again.

    Just worth bearing the cost and delicacy in mind but it looks class.

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    Just to update on this.

    All functions work fine. No known service history but told it is running well. Price to purchase - cash/debit card £475. (includes a 10% discount).

    Crystal has a chip so would need replacing at some point.Plenty of scratches too.

    On the face of it, all original watch is appealing.

    It feels a little pricey to me though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenko View Post
    Just to update on this.

    All functions work fine. No known service history but told it is running well. Price to purchase - cash/debit card £475. (includes a 10% discount).

    Crystal has a chip so would need replacing at some point.Plenty of scratches too.

    On the face of it, all original watch is appealing.

    It feels a little pricey to me though?
    Service and crystal would be £200ish, so still not too bad if the dial is good and it's on the original bracelet.

    Are the blue dials worth less than the gold or black? I have no idea?

    Someone on here knows all about these. I can think of at least two and surprised they haven't commented.

    Obviously it would be nice to get it for less but realistically is that ever going to happen? I would only question provenance as it's not sold by a Seiko specialist collector, but you can't have everything.

    It's a head or heart thing now

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    Yes a little pricey BUT is it a antiques centre?

    Loads of cabinets with dealer numbers on ?

    If so I would make a offer at just under £400 and get them to phone the dealer . Most dealers I know want to turnover quickly so would rather make a few quid and then use that money to buy something else .
    There are some dealers that won't take a penny less , I see these guys at a lot of shows with the same old stock I looked at 2 years ago!
    It also helps if you have purchased there in the past
    If you don't ask you will never know . Good luck

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    Dial was in good shape so will mull it over for a couple of days.

    Sorry forgot to say, bracelet is original and it fitted me with a couple of spare holes on the clasp. April 73 watch according to the serial.

    I think with a new crystal, it would transform it. Any recommendations on someone who could source and fit one quickly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo12 View Post
    Yes a little pricey BUT is it a antiques centre?

    Loads of cabinets with dealer numbers on ?
    Yes, antique centre, loads of cabinets etc. I snagged an all original 6306 in the same place a few years back (different dealer)

    Don't worry, I have no qualms about being a bit cheeky with an offer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenko View Post
    Just to update on this.

    All functions work fine. No known service history but told it is running well. Price to purchase - cash/debit card £475. (includes a 10% discount).

    Crystal has a chip so would need replacing at some point.Plenty of scratches too.

    On the face of it, all original watch is appealing.

    It feels a little pricey to me though?
    That seems very dear considering the condition.

    I have something you might like and in far better condition, all original - pm me.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    I have something you might like and in far better condition, all original - pm me.
    PM on the way!


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    That looks a pretty decent price to me and on the original non flared bracelet which is worth a few quid on its own, as already said a crystal and service would add another £200 ish if nothing broken or in need of replacement when serviced.

    As a side note be aware that the crown on these often gets broken off of the stem if handled roughly and now days OEM crowns are almost impossible to find.

    I imagine going by the date it is a plain dial ? the minute hand is obscuring the text area at the 9 position.

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    ^^^^Sorry, yes should have said, its a plain dial

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