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    New BOND Trailer

    Anyone else a little bit excited for this?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5M2m10l5gXY



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    No. My appetite for new Bond films waned years ago.
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    Yes, looking forward to it, although not sure I will be going to the cinema to see it. May wait until I can watch at home

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    Yes, looking forwards to it and I will see it at the cinema.

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    Yes !

    I've even bought the watch, in anticipation.

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    Ah, the feature length Land Rover / Omega / Swatch advert is almost upon us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampire View Post
    Ah, the feature length Land Rover / Omega / Swatch advert is almost upon us.
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    I do enjoy the current DC Bond films. My belief is very easily suspended so I do get immersed. We don't go to the cinema much but normally we'd always make the effort for the new Bond as they do benefit from big screen and cinema sound.

    Sadly I'm not going to be sitting in a cinema in the middle of a pandemic. (Yes the economy is going to tank and it's all my fault, sorry!)

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    I'm pretty excited. I'm a Bond fan. I've enjoy'd all of the Daniel Craig films although none were perfect. My favourite was Casino Royale and even that could have done with some editing. The product placement is a bit heavy handed, but it is nothing new. Smirnoff was front and centre in Doctor No. I haven't been to the cinema in years. I would be tempted to go for this, but probably will end up watching it at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucko View Post
    Anyone else a little bit excited for this?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5M2m10l5gXY



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    Damn right. The world needs a bit of Bond escapism right now.
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    Read the thread title and thought it was an advert for a fibreglass container to tow behind my car!

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    Like the plane/submersible.

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    Bond

    Liked Casino Royale, loved Skyfall, the other 2 a bit meh...... time for another stormer and a trip to the IMAX me thinks :)

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    Let's hope it's akin to Casino Royale, Spectre (tho not so much) and Skyfall rather than QoS (garbage). I really like DC's Bond.
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    Looks exactly the same as the previous films to me. Tired...every clip from that trailer looks like a rehash of a scene from a previous film.

    Just as Bourne should have stopped at the end of the trilogy rather than add the fourth film, the DC-era Bond should have stopped at Skyfall. It shouldn't have re-hashed the 4th, let alone made 5 films.

    Looking at the "Transformer" they fly, it also looks like they are repeating the "Die Another Day" mistake of moving away from plausible action to having things like invisible cars. I wonder if thats why Danny Boyle walked away from the project, when the studio said...we want a remake of the last 4-movies all rolled into one but add in a cool transforming robot plane-submarine...that'll beat Mission Impossible 7.

    Overall, looks dreadful compared to Tenet. Christopher Nolan is well known massive Bond-fan, lets hope he is brought in to save the series next time.
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    Oh yes!

    Love a bit of 007.
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    Looks like he may need some CIA assistance!

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    I'll probably watch it at the cinema but it doesn't really impress me from the trailer.

    I don't mind the Daniel Craig films - Casino Royale by far the best IMO and could have been even better with a few tweaks. Skyfall and Spectre were ok but neither of them had an edge that would set them apart as really good films.

    I watched Licence to Kill the other day - my second favourite Bond film after FRWL and as a Cert. 15 certainly had more graphic violence than the new films. I still think Timothy Dalton comes the closest to the actual Fleming character of James Bond (with DC being the furthest away, although a more modern JB)

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    Prefer the old Bonds but still enjoy these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonian View Post
    Prefer the old Bonds but still enjoy these.
    I suppose when you have seen every Bond in the cinema like yourself then the new ones may not have the same timeless appeal ;)


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    Oh yes liking the look of that,

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    Indeed looks enticingly good, let’s hope so. November a long way out though.


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    I heard that in this film Bond has sworn a vow of celibacy and his Walther PPK has been replaced by a water pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Fantastic idea, only about five years late.
    I’ve always been a bit slow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    Personally, I cannot effing wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jools View Post
    The name's Wit, F*** Wit.
    I'd love to see Bond actually say this, but it wouldn't seem quite right unless delivered by Sean Connery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane View Post
    I watched Licence to Kill the other day - my second favourite Bond film after FRWL and as a Cert. 15 certainly had more graphic violence than the new films. I still think Timothy Dalton comes the closest to the actual Fleming character of James Bond (with DC being the furthest away, although a more modern JB)
    I agree...Timothy Dalton was my favourite Bond. Maybe because he only did two films and never reached the stage of “jumping the shark” like Moore, Brosnan and Daniel Craig all seem to have done. My preference was Living Daylights though...my favourite ever Bond film and up with my favourite films ever...one that I can watch again and again.

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    I’m pleased to see Timothy Dalton being praised!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    I’m pleased to see Timothy Dalton being praised!
    Yeah, I can’t tell whether I’m biased because I grew up in the 80’s listening to A-Ha and Living Daylights was the first Bond film I could go and see at the cinema as an 8 year old. We used to hire the Roger Moore films from the local video shop prior to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    Yeah, I can’t tell whether I’m biased because I grew up in the 80’s listening to A-Ha and Living Daylights was the first Bond film I could go and see at the cinema as an 8 year old. We used to hire the Roger Moore films from the local video shop prior to that.
    My theory is your favourite Bond is who played him when you were aged 10 - for me that’s Roger and although they were a bit cartooney I still get most enjoyment rewatching him!

    Dalton was by the book, he had the acting chops and the plots weren’t world domination. A shame the legalities kicked in and we didn’t get more; him in Goldeneye would have been perfection!

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    Love it and can't wait. At least I might understand most of it compared to Tenet (saw that over the last weekend). I really only got about 30% of that at best.

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    I like DCs Bond, I think he portrays the cold thuggish part of the character that Fleming intended. Hope it’s a good one.
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    Can't say I've been overly impressed with the DC bond films, they seem to have been more successful with Casino Royal than they thought and have tried to shoehorn this whole story arc into the subsequent films. My problem with them are amostly script / production based. DC is a decent bond - even though he looks like Sid James, Dame Judi was a fantastic 'M' and Rafe Feinnes is a worth successor, even the new 'Q' is OK in the role, but the stories have been lackluster with some truly awful casting for the villains, when Dave Bautista has the best villain presence you know something is wrong, the new bad guy is Freddie Mercury for fates sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julian2002 View Post
    Can't say I've been overly impressed with the DC bond films, they seem to have been more successful with Casino Royal than they thought and have tried to shoehorn this whole story arc into the subsequent films. My problem with them are amostly script / production based. DC is a decent bond - even though he looks like Sid James, Dame Judi was a fantastic 'M' and Rafe Feinnes is a worth successor, even the new 'Q' is OK in the role, but the stories have been lackluster with some truly awful casting for the villains, when Dave Bautista has the best villain presence you know something is wrong, the new bad guy is Freddie Mercury for fates sake.
    Spot on!

    DC is a decent thug 'Bourne' but things went out the window when Sam Mendez came on board and focussed on the personal backstory, IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    My theory is your favourite Bond is who played him when you were aged 10 - for me that’s Roger and although they were a bit cartooney I still get most enjoyment rewatching him!

    Dalton was by the book, he had the acting chops and the plots weren’t world domination. A shame the legalities kicked in and we didn’t get more; him in Goldeneye would have been perfection!
    Agreed. I thought Dalton was a great Bond, looked the part, and was the right mix of brutal and debonair, but the films were a little weak. That said I watched The Living Daylights with the family recently and we really all enjoyed it.

    Now having watched the new trailer, it does have a feel of a late sequel at its 'jumping the shark' stage. I'm sure it will still be fun and I'll watch it but not expecting a Casino Royale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpjsavage View Post
    Love it and can't wait. At least I might understand most of it compared to Tenet (saw that over the last weekend). I really only got about 30% of that at best.
    But that's what makes it such a brilliant piece of cinema. Made me think about it the whole of the next day, read up on the film logic that I slightly didn't grasp first time around and now I'm ready and eager to watch the film again. Both Inception and Tenet are far better movies than any of the tired DC Bond films. Only gripe was the sound mixing and volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julian2002 View Post
    Can't say I've been overly impressed with the DC bond films, they seem to have been more successful with Casino Royal than they thought and have tried to shoehorn this whole story arc into the subsequent films. My problem with them are amostly script / production based. DC is a decent bond - even though he looks like Sid James, Dame Judi was a fantastic 'M' and Rafe Feinnes is a worth successor, even the new 'Q' is OK in the role, but the stories have been lackluster with some truly awful casting for the villains, when Dave Bautista has the best villain presence you know something is wrong, the new bad guy is Freddie Mercury for fates sake.
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    My theory is your favourite Bond is who played him when you were aged 10 - for me that’s Roger and although they were a bit cartooney I still get most enjoyment rewatching him!

    Dalton was by the book, he had the acting chops and the plots weren’t world domination. A shame the legalities kicked in and we didn’t get more; him in Goldeneye would have been perfection!
    I'd agree with that theory and that Goldeneye with Dalton would have been very interesting.

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    Looking forward to it

    Not so much the overt product placement

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    Love Daniel Craig as Bond but that trailer doesn't look great. If anything it makes me want a new Bourne Identity. Will watch it of course but might pick an obscure time at the cinema when it's a bit quiet, certainty not a Friday night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    Looks exactly the same as the previous films to me. Tired...every clip from that trailer looks like a rehash of a scene from a previous film.
    Nailed it.

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    I don't know why anyone holds much hope for this...Craig didn't want to do it, Danny Boyle walked away from the project and the trailer looks like its got replicated scenes from every other DC Bond film except they've decided to put Bond in a CGI transforming plane-submarine.

    I think the studio decided they'd milk the DC cash cow just one last time...initially DC said "I'd rather slash my wrists than do Bond again", then when the pay-check was upped, he did a U-turn. Boyle wanted to avoid the rehash rubbish and walked when he wasn't allowed to do what he wanted. Then, with studio control they decided they needed the CGI transformer to make it 'one better than the last'. The CGI is Die Another Day history repeating itself.

    So many films that I've had hopes for end up getting ruined by Marvel-esque CGI. I'm thinking things like Terminator: Dark Fate. Could have been a decent film until they decided that the set piece had to be crashing CGI military planes into one another with human protagonists jumping from one plane to another or exiting a flying plane in an armoured vehicle. "The Marvel Effect" ruined other films that were meant to be grounded in some kind of reality rather than having super-powers. That's why I prefer Nolan...CGI 747 crash? Nah, buy a 747 and smash it into a building. That's cinema. Otherwise you may as well watch cartoons.

    No Time To Die is a film I've got zero intention of going to the cinema to see.

    I'd hope the next direction they take is to make it as stylish as something like Tenet but have a serious, completely plausible spy storyline. I've got no concerns about whoever plays Bond, black or white (JDW was fantastic in Tenet), although I think by definition it's got to be male. However, I've got a strong suspicion we'll end up with a woke mess that tries to copy whatever style of film is popular at the time rather than do something original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    I don't know why anyone holds much hope for this...Craig didn't want to do it, Danny Boyle walked away from the project and the trailer looks like its got replicated scenes from every other DC Bond film except they've decided to put Bond in a CGI transforming plane-submarine.

    I think the studio decided they'd milk the DC cash cow just one last time...initially DC said "I'd rather slash my wrists than do Bond again", then when the pay-check was upped, he did a U-turn. Boyle wanted to avoid the rehash rubbish and walked when he wasn't allowed to do what he wanted. Then, with studio control they decided they needed the CGI transformer to make it 'one better than the last'. The CGI is Die Another Day history repeating itself.

    So many films that I've had hopes for end up getting ruined by Marvel-esque CGI. I'm thinking things like Terminator: Dark Fate. Could have been a decent film until they decided that the set piece had to be crashing CGI military planes into one another with human protagonists jumping from one plane to another or exiting a flying plane in an armoured vehicle. "The Marvel Effect" ruined other films that were meant to be grounded in some kind of reality rather than having super-powers. That's why I prefer Nolan...CGI 747 crash? Nah, buy a 747 and smash it into a building. That's cinema. Otherwise you may as well watch cartoons.

    No Time To Die is a film I've got zero intention of going to the cinema to see.

    I'd hope the next direction they take is to make it as stylish as something like Tenet but have a serious, completely plausible spy storyline. I've got no concerns about whoever plays Bond, black or white (JDW was fantastic in Tenet), although I think by definition it's got to be male. However, I've got a strong suspicion we'll end up with a woke mess that tries to copy whatever style of film is popular at the time rather than do something original.
    I agree with every word you said. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    I don't know why anyone holds much hope for this...Craig didn't want to do it, Danny Boyle walked away from the project and the trailer looks like its got replicated scenes from every other DC Bond film except they've decided to put Bond in a CGI transforming plane-submarine.

    I think the studio decided they'd milk the DC cash cow just one last time...initially DC said "I'd rather slash my wrists than do Bond again", then when the pay-check was upped, he did a U-turn. Boyle wanted to avoid the rehash rubbish and walked when he wasn't allowed to do what he wanted. Then, with studio control they decided they needed the CGI transformer to make it 'one better than the last'. The CGI is Die Another Day history repeating itself.

    So many films that I've had hopes for end up getting ruined by Marvel-esque CGI. I'm thinking things like Terminator: Dark Fate. Could have been a decent film until they decided that the set piece had to be crashing CGI military planes into one another with human protagonists jumping from one plane to another or exiting a flying plane in an armoured vehicle. "The Marvel Effect" ruined other films that were meant to be grounded in some kind of reality rather than having super-powers. That's why I prefer Nolan...CGI 747 crash? Nah, buy a 747 and smash it into a building. That's cinema. Otherwise you may as well watch cartoons.

    No Time To Die is a film I've got zero intention of going to the cinema to see.

    I'd hope the next direction they take is to make it as stylish as something like Tenet but have a serious, completely plausible spy storyline. I've got no concerns about whoever plays Bond, black or white (JDW was fantastic in Tenet), although I think by definition it's got to be male. However, I've got a strong suspicion we'll end up with a woke mess that tries to copy whatever style of film is popular at the time rather than do something original.
    Some very good points re CGI.

    To me that rubbish has ruined films and reduced them to cartoons.

    Case in point, I watched Midway the other night, real planes and carriers, some WWII colour clips added in but on the whole it felt very real.

    Compare and contrast with Pearl Harbour with it's CGI planes - no comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K300 View Post
    Like the plane/submersible.
    That looked a bit OTT to me, but I expect I'll go and see the film anyway - Like some others, a couple of hours Bond escapism is always a pleasure for me.

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    Is that meant to be the same DB5 that’s been shot/smashed/blown-up so many times?

    I’ll still go and watch it and then promptly forget what i saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrudd View Post
    Agreed. I thought Dalton was a great Bond, looked the part, and was the right mix of brutal and debonair, but the films were a little weak. That said I watched The Living Daylights with the family recently and we really all enjoyed it.

    Now having watched the new trailer, it does have a feel of a late sequel at its 'jumping the shark' stage. I'm sure it will still be fun and I'll watch it but not expecting a Casino Royale.


    I have always rated The Living Daylights as one of the most "complete" Bond movies - it has all the elements in the right amounts and combination in my opinion. and it's just a crackingly good action movie as well.

    Over lockdown I did the full Bond Movie series with my twelve year old son, and he actually rates TLD as his overall favourite. I also really enjoyed it again.

    I think it is too often overlooked, perhaps because Dalton only did the two.

    Of Craig's outing, Casino Royale is the best by a country mile in my view, Skyfall was ok but the A-team ending in the old house was absurd even by the franchise's standards, QoS just an under-developed chase movie, and Spectre watchable but forgetable.
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