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    The UK has been disappeared by Montblanc!!!

    Anyone else noticed how Montblanc have edited out the existence of the UK from their latest release - the 1858 Geosphere Automatic 24h?
    ( https://www.ablogtowatch.com/montbla...tic-24h-watch/ )

    Incompetence or petulance at our escape from the EUrinal?

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    Wow, it's one of those things that looks really weird once spotted.

    No idea if it was a mistake or done to prove a point, but surely it can't be released like that.

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    If it was done on purpose, the horological equivalent of throwing their toys out of the pram, then they left the island of Ireland on, but didn't remove Northern Ireland. Maybe it was a hissy fit but Montblanc are just not that bright perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggertech View Post
    If it was done on purpose, the horological equivalent of throwing their toys out of the pram, then they left the island of Ireland on, but didn't remove Northern Ireland. Maybe it was a hissy fit but Montblanc are just not that bright perhaps?

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    I'm not sure about that - it looks to me as if they may have removed the top quarter of the island, but the scale makes it hard to judge for certain. Either way, I guess they would not want to irritate Eire. I'm hoping David Cerrato will comment at some point and clarify how this happened and how many heads have rolled!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchIng View Post
    I'm not sure about that - it looks to me as if they may have removed the top quarter of the island, but the scale makes it hard to judge for certain. Either way, I guess they would not want to irritate Eire.
    I erred on the side of NI being present, but yes, it is hard to say.

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    Buy one quick!
    Could be a collectors piece like a stamp without the Queen's head

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    Maybe it's to deflect people from how ugly it is?

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    Talk about air brushing out John Harrison and his legacy.

    Horrible watch by the way IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggertech View Post
    I erred on the side of NI being present, but yes, it is hard to say.
    Agree NI present, also Shetland Islands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Agree NI present, also Shetland Islands.
    Good spot on the Shetlands!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Maybe it's to deflect people from how ugly it is?
    It is pretty gross.

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    Best off out of that hideous dial just as we’re better off out of the EU!

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    When did it become okay to engage in cheap political points scoring in Watch Talk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    When did it become okay to engage in cheap political points scoring in Watch Talk?
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post

    Now we’re posting Dick pics in Watch Talk

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    Now we’re posting Dick pics in Watch Talk
    Priceless
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    When did it become okay to engage in cheap political points scoring in Watch Talk?
    In fairness it done all over the rest of the forum by our very own Tooting Popular Front brigade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    When did it become okay to engage in cheap political points scoring in Watch Talk?
    When it became OK to make cheap political points on watch dials perhaps?

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    Is this a newly launched model? At the beginning of April perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchIng View Post
    When it became OK to make cheap political points on watch dials perhaps?
    Assuming it is a political point and not a mistake?
    I can’t see a company wanting to alienate an entire market on purpose.

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    Red face

    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    When did it become okay to engage in cheap political points scoring in Watch Talk?
    maybe since a watch manufacturer decided it was OK to do so

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    Incompetence or petulance at our escape from the EUrinal?[/QUOTE]

    Maybe it’s just a reflection of our status in the world?

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    Lol!

    The bigger problem is why the watch cuts out a huge chunk of the Southern Hemisphere / global south. So if it's political, MB's hit list is UK, Australasia, SE Asia, South America. Classy move MB, especially seeing as how many of those places produce their 'fine/precious/princess-and-the-pea' resin for their pens.

    (p.s. I don't think they mean anything by it, it is just bad design!).

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    That is an astonishing troll move by Montblanc. I'm boycotting them! Not that I've ever bought anything previously...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Agree NI present, also Shetland Islands.
    Yay!!

    They're still purveyors of plastic pens.

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    What really makes me laugh is the ablogtowatch post says nothing about what is missing on the dial. Other than nice product pictures, and ways of knowing new stuff is out, the big watch websites are so lazy.

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    The conspiracy deepens, it's not just NZ anymore

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HynsTvRVLiI
    Last edited by Dean Learner; 27th April 2020 at 22:04. Reason: Wrong link

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templogin View Post
    Yay!!

    They're still purveyors of plastic pens.
    Precious resin! Thank you very much!

    Also £500 headphones now too ...


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    you can zoom in with this photo straight on.


    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/mo...g#&gid=1&pid=2

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    Whats the political relevance in omitting the UK from the dial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwest76 View Post
    you can zoom in with this photo straight on.


    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/mo...g#&gid=1&pid=2
    Thank you for this, it adds to my (rather sad) enjoyment of being wound up by the pretentiousness of Hodkinkee (misspelt on purpose)

    "A one-handed watch for your more adventurous side...This probably isn't going to be anyone's first watch, but if you've already got a box of goodies at home, this could be a nice addition that brings something new and more conceptual to your collection."

    Sorry for distracting from the thread, but Hodinkee...jeeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Learner View Post
    The conspiracy deepens, it's not just NZ anymore

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HynsTvRVLiI
    Very good.

    - - - Updated - - -

    So if the UK doesn't exist anymore, where are we all living?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2012 View Post
    Very good.

    - - - Updated - - -

    So if the UK doesn't exist anymore, where are we all living?
    The Dark Ages?

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    Ask any German Bielefeld doesn’t exist either.



    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49432677

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Whats the political relevance in omitting the UK from the dial?
    They never forgave us over GMT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsox78 View Post
    A one-handed watch for your more adventurous side...
    Unintentionally hilarious.

    Looks to me like NI has been removed.

    I'd guess that this was intentional or at the very least, done by the designer perhaps without senior management knowing. I don't think MB would let it out like that otherwise.

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    The amount of outrage here is hilarious

    I highly doubt this is political, no-one in Europe really cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sier View Post
    The amount of outrage here is hilarious

    I highly doubt this is political, no-one in Europe really cares.
    Nice try but it's not really an outrage fest. More a raised eyebrow and a smile from me.

    I would guess there is a standard map template. Meaning it would have to be removed.

    As for nobody in Europe caring, have you seen the forum content over the last few years? It was the number one topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    As for nobody in Europe caring, have you seen the forum content over the last few years? It was the number one topic.
    I didn't see that. I'm usually here for watches.

    And I'm sorry. The last post came out more snarky than I intended.

    The UK missing from that watch face is weird. But the finger pointing and conspiracy theories in this thread are just too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    Nice try but it's not really an outrage fest. More a raised eyebrow and a smile from me.

    I would guess there is a standard map template. Meaning it would have to be removed.

    As for nobody in Europe caring, have you seen the forum content over the last few years? It was the number one topic.
    1) he is a newbie so cannot have seen the forum content, especially that part of the forum unless a returning member
    2) While your own comment is measured as usual, the obfuscation from some here is clearly visible.
    3) Maybe it's a prank, maybe a disgruntled designer, maybe an honest mistake. Really, it doesn't matter
    4) To make amends, I am sure Montblanc will produce a Brit-specific version, where the UK will be the only country on the map, surrounded by the ocean.
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    ^Yes, I try not to attribute to malice what can equally be attributed to incompetence.

    The only thing I would disagree with you on is whether it matters if it was a mistake or done on purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    ^Yes, I try not to attribute to malice what can equally be attributed to incompetence.

    The only thing I would disagree with you on is whether it matters if it was a mistake or done on purpose by the manufacturer
    A small alteration and I'll agree; this is also why it wasn't an option I had listed in my initial post. But I find it highly unlikely: we can expect sweeping political statements from companies like Ryanair or Sports Direct, much less so from a Swiss watch company (Montblanc is German, but started making watches after absorbing Minerva which is based in Villeret, and Montblanc belongs to the very Swiss Richemont Group).

    As usual, I'll apply Occam's razor...
    Last edited by Saint-Just; 28th April 2020 at 09:32.
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Agreed.

    And perhaps one thing I should mention (as I think in general we share many views) is that if France had been missed I would feel exactly the same, and would have posted a similar comment.

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    ... and what about Luxembourg?
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post

    ...Montblanc belongs to the very Swiss Richemont Group).
    Well... a South African operating out of Switzerland.

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    ^Yes, I would defend Luxembourg as well.

    Although as it's landlocked, MB would have to cut a hole in the map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    Agreed.

    And perhaps one thing I should mention (as I think in general we share many views) is that if France had been missed I would feel exactly the same, and would have posted a similar comment.
    I had no doubt, and did not believe that you had become apoplectic and started singing 'Rule Britannia' on the phone to Montblanc

    Although I would not put it beyond some members here
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sier View Post
    The UK missing from that watch face is weird. But the finger pointing and conspiracy theories in this thread are just too much.
    Welcome.People are just having a few wry smiles and making a few tongue in cheek quips, no finger pointing here. When you get to see other parts of the forum you may have a real shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggertech View Post
    When you get to see other parts of the forum you may have a real shock.
    Challenge accepted.

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