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    Non functional movement from eBay, discovered after a year

    Hi, I'd appreciate your thoughts on a little watch related issue. I bought a movement described as new old stock last year on eBay. Took me a while to get round to sending it off to a watch repairer. The repairer comes back to me saying it's dead and looks like a used movement. I ask the seller to explain and refund me as it's not as described. I say the delay is not material, he says it's been too long, he bought it as new and then sold it on as such. Not much money involved (£20) but thinking of going to small claims on principle/out of anger. Thanks in advance.

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    last year? really? twenty quid. really?
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Move on. It’s been a year - for the price of a round of drinks .....

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    If it's not as described then the time is not material. Recovering the money's not the issue.

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    I think you should file this one under 'Life's too short'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    If it's not as described then the time is not material. Recovering the money's not the issue.
    mate, if this is what your like over a twenty quid eBay dud, then i hope you never get divorced!
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    I keep a file just in case.
    Yes - that may be useful some day given the amount involved..

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    Mate. Seriously after a year? For the value of £20 is it worth the effort? If everybody went to court over such small issues think what a place it would be to live in! Get over it.


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    Is it 1st April?

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    The amount isn’t even relevant here.
    It’s been a year.
    Not easy to lay blame.

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    Small claims court? Really?

    If this is the worst card you’re dealt this year, you’re luckier than most.

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    It's the principle guys - get lawyered up OP and hit the seller where it hurts. A couple of years back I bought a 2009 Corsa boot floor from an old lady on eBay for £15. 8 months later when it broke she refused to refund me so I sued her ass for thousands and put her on the streets! I hear she died of hypothermia a few weeks later - she won't be ripping anyone else off again that's for sure!

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    I will suck it up then and leave it at that.

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    If you are earning anything more than £0.24 per hour, then i think that your decision makes sound financial sense
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    What I suspect has happened is that the seller replaced their broken movement then flogged the broken one. That's pretty scummy for 20 quid.

    The CD player analogy doesn't really work, thanks for taking the time though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    The CD player analogy doesn't really work, thanks for taking the time though.
    Corsa boot floor. I did a crafty edit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    It's the principle guys - get lawyered up OP and hit the seller where it hurts. A couple of years back I bought a 2009 Corsa boot floor from an old lady on eBay for £15. 8 months later when it broke she refused to refund me so I sued her ass for thousands and put her on the streets! I hear she died of hypothermia a few weeks later - she won't be ripping anyone else off again that's for sure!



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    Quote Originally Posted by ibby7 View Post
    Please don't breed

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    Ouch!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    What I suspect has happened is that the seller replaced their broken movement then flogged the broken one. That's pretty scummy for 20 quid.

    The CD player analogy doesn't really work, thanks for taking the time though.
    And you look to take everyone that does you wrong to court? You must have a lot of time on your hands...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    Hi, I'd appreciate your thoughts on a little watch related issue. I bought a movement described as new old stock last year on eBay. Took me a while to get round to sending it off to a watch repairer. The repairer comes back to me saying it's dead and looks like a used movement. I ask the seller to explain and refund me as it's not as described. I say the delay is not material, he says it's been too long, he bought it as new and then sold it on as such. Not much money involved (£20) but thinking of going to small claims on principle/out of anger. Thanks in advance.
    Just out of interest. How did you make that payment? And how much did you pay the watch repairer?


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    This isn’t serious, is it ?

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    PayPal. I've got to pay the watch repairer for his time and find a new movement

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    Seriously, £20? 1 year later. You need to do something more productive with your spare time.

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    Once in 1964 someone looked at me funny and i dropped my ice cream. It's seriously spoilt my enjoyment of anything cone shaped ever since and I'm thinking of suing the b@rtst@rds
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    PayPal. I've got to pay the watch repairer for his time and find a new movement
    His time? How much time did it really take him to tell you it was a dud?

    the time taken to find a new movement - that's your problem not the sellers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    PayPal. I've got to pay the watch repairer for his time and find a new movement
    Did you get a quote or estimate for that?


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    Small claims will cost you at least £70. On top of that you’re not guaranteed to win it’s your word against his after a whole year

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    Non functional movement from eBay, discovered after a year

    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Once in 1964 someone looked at me funny and i dropped my ice cream. It's seriously spoilt my enjoyment of anything cone shaped ever since and I'm thinking of suing the b@rtst@rds
    You are truly a ‘seiko’ sir!


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    Last edited by alpharulez; 5th July 2018 at 20:08.

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    I'm involved in a number of pedantic legal matters myself at the moment and would willingly take on your case.

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    Small claims would've cost 25 as it's less than 300.

    Happily the seller and I came to an agreement once I let go of the anger.

    Cheers.

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    Lol please don’t ever buy from Me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    Small claims would've cost 25 as it's less than 300.

    Happily the seller and I came to an agreement once I let go of the anger.

    Cheers.
    Well done letting go!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lew07 View Post
    Lol please don’t ever buy from Me
    Do you sell stuff that doesn't work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    Small claims would've cost 25 as it's less than 300.

    Happily the seller and I came to an agreement once I let go of the anger.

    Cheers.
    The seller gave you something? 🤩

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    Smile

    https://www.gov.uk/online-and-distan...for-businesses, might be worth checking time limits etc, but if seller was a businesses you are covered. On pure contractual terms, frustrated, vitiating factor, misrep, either fraudulent or negligent, rescission.

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    Not a business. With private sales the only issue is not as described.

    I wouldn't have relied on my word. against his, I'd have cited the repairer's assessment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    Small claims would've cost 25 as it's less than 300.

    Happily the seller and I came to an agreement once I let go of the anger.

    Cheers.
    Out of curiosity what was the agreement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpharulez View Post
    Did you get a quote or estimate for that?


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    I got a quote for the work. Not for additional needing around!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    It's the principle guys - get lawyered up OP and hit the seller where it hurts. A couple of years back I bought a 2009 Corsa boot floor from an old lady on eBay for £15. 8 months later when it broke she refused to refund me so I sued her ass for thousands and put her on the streets! I hear she died of hypothermia a few weeks later - she won't be ripping anyone else off again that's for sure!



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    Non functional movement from eBay, discovered after a year

    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    I got a quote for the work. Not for additional needing around!
    Surely the quote would have been over the purchase price of the watch movement?
    Last edited by alpharulez; 5th July 2018 at 20:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    The seller gave you something? 🤩
    I seriously hope he didn’t! After a year, that’s a completely unreasonable request - I’m aghast at the OPs brass neck for even asking.



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    Indeed it would. Quartz movements can be cheap, doesn't mean the watch is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    Indeed it would. Quartz movements can be cheap, doesn't mean the watch is.
    Quartz...

    I’m hesitating to ask. Damn I’m gonna have to ....

    It wasn’t the battery was it ?

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    I just read this thread and claim my £20

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    Do you sell stuff that doesn't work?
    It's the stress and sleepless nights of a year waiting to hear if you're happy with the £20 sale that would put me off ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    Do you sell stuff that doesn't work?

    Never knowingly.If I did I’d like the buyer to not leave it a year before He complains.Good grief it could have only just deteriorated .

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    Quote Originally Posted by lew07 View Post
    Never knowingly.If I did I’d like the buyer to not leave it a year before he EVEN CHECKED THE GOODS .Good grief it could have only just deteriorated .
    FTFY

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernestrome View Post
    Not a business. With private sales the only issue is not as described.

    I wouldn't have relied on my word. against his, I'd have cited the repairer's assessment.
    then they have to have been proved to have lied to you, high burden.

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    Think you might have damaged your chances of buying from a number of guys here OP.

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