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    m25 advice please!

    i need to be in kingston ( upon thames that is, not jamaica ) tomorrow evening, this will involve a dreaded shlep across the m25 anti clockwise from the junction with the A1.

    preferably i would like to arrive in kingston around 6/ 6.30.

    what can i do to minimise my chances of getting absolutely muntered in the rush hour traffic?

    leave earlier / later or not at all?
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Helicopter?

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    It's not going to help but i find it so unpredictable for obvious reasons. I've even left at 4am once to avoid traffic only to be greeted by a sea of brake lights and a long wait by Heathrow. Motorbike?

    Just google maps and check the traffic before you leave and allow extra extra time

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    cheers geezers. unfortunately the chopper is in repair at the moment, plus there are a few of us going so motorbike isn't really an option unless we do a display team special for the full 300 mile round trip.

    google maps are suggesting the north circular. wtf.
    negotiating that is going to be like hamburger hill at that time of day.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Have you got waze on your phone?
    I find the setting an arrival time feature very useful.
    Plus it'll find rat runs off and around the m25 if traffic is at a standstill.

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    Another vote for Waze. Even gets me through Bogotá traffic.

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    cheers doll(z).

    waze it is.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    Have you got waze on your phone?
    I find the setting an arrival time feature very useful.
    Plus it'll find rat runs off and around the m25 if traffic is at a standstill.
    Another plus for excellent Waze App.
    The arrival feature is spot on.
    Sometimes a out of the way route is provided, but that all for a good reason, as delays are present on the most direct route.

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    My honest opinion is that you need to allow an extra hour on journey time or leave early, get wherever you are going, relax and wait with a coffee. You need to get round arguably the worst stretch 18-13 at rush hour. It is guaranteed to be rammed with commuters, waze, google maps, tomtom; they can't make the volume of traffic disappear, lots of others will also be trying to avoid the queues with similar tactics.

    Good luck, I hate that bloody road.

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    A large "Motorway Maintenance" sticker on the back of the car will enable you to drive on the hard shoulder.

    It's the only suggestion I have, Dave. Sorry.
    Although no trees were harmed during the creation of this post, a large number of electrons were greatly inconvenienced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claret67 View Post
    Another plus for excellent Waze App.
    The arrival feature is spot on.
    Sometimes a out of the way route is provided, but that all for a good reason, as delays are present on the most direct route.
    Waze is superb. Definitely give that a go Dave-O.

    Alternatively, have you considered paying for an impersonator to attend in your place?

    Hope the journey is ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    Waze is superb. Definitely give that a go Dave-O.

    Alternatively, have you considered paying for an impersonator to attend in your place?

    Hope the journey is ok.
    I'm already impersonating someone else. This is going to get complicated.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    I’d stay well clear of the M25 and if you must use it go anti-clockwise to J10 then A3 —> Kingston. Clockwise will be almost twice as far and involve the Dartford crossing. I would come down the A1/A1M to the very bottom, Jct 1, known as Staples Corner. Head west (right) on the North circular A406 —> Chiswick. Follow the A406 north circular over Kew Bridge —> Richmond. Just over Kew Bridge the road splits in a Y, south circular (A205 goes left). Take the right fork towards Richmond then you’ll pick up signs for Kingston I would think. The A406 will be busy but nowhere near as bad as the M25 I suspect. Also another note for WAZE as it will alert you of Police etc en route but beware it will almost certainly try and take you on the M25 and you may need to follow your own route and ignore it until you get to certain points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hops View Post
    I’d stay well clear of the M25 and if you must use it go anti-clockwise to J10 then A3 —> Kingston. Clockwise will be almost twice as far and involve the Dartford crossing. I would come down the A1/A1M to the very bottom, Jct 1, known as Staples Corner. Head west (right) on the North circular A406 —> Chiswick. Follow the A406 north circular over Kew Bridge —> Richmond. Just over Kew Bridge the road splits in a Y, south circular (A205 goes left). Take the right fork towards Richmond then you’ll pick up signs for Kingston I would think. The A406 will be busy but nowhere near as bad as the M25 I suspect. Also another note for WAZE as it will alert you of Police etc en route but beware it will almost certainly try and take you on the M25 and you may need to follow your own route and ignore it until you get to certain points.
    Can’t you be more specific?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hops View Post
    I’d stay well clear of the M25 and if you must use it go anti-clockwise to J10 then A3 —> Kingston. Clockwise will be almost twice as far and involve the Dartford crossing. I would come down the A1/A1M to the very bottom, Jct 1, known as Staples Corner. Head west (right) on the North circular A406 —> Chiswick. Follow the A406 north circular over Kew Bridge —> Richmond. Just over Kew Bridge the road splits in a Y, south circular (A205 goes left). Take the right fork towards Richmond then you’ll pick up signs for Kingston I would think. The A406 will be busy but nowhere near as bad as the M25 I suspect. Also another note for WAZE as it will alert you of Police etc en route but beware it will almost certainly try and take you on the M25 and you may need to follow your own route and ignore it until you get to certain points.
    I'll be walking over Kew bridge with the dog heading to Old Deer Park, wave if you get the chance
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    If you want

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave O'Sullivan View Post
    Can’t you be more specific?
    How long ya got?😄

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    I'll be walking over Kew bridge with the dog heading to Old Deer Park, wave if you get the chance
    I will be on the park bench by the third lamppost. I will be wearing a brown homburg and a pink cravat. The rain in Katowice can be particularly heavy this time of year.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hops View Post
    I’d stay well clear of the M25...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    I will be on the park bench by the third lamppost. I will be wearing a brown homburg and a pink cravat. The rain in Katowice can be particularly heavy this time of year.
    Indeed, but the dragon is still breathing in Krakow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    I'll be walking over Kew bridge with the dog heading to Old Deer Park, wave if you get the chance
    FENTON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by de30m View Post
    FENTON!
    Nope, ours is a Fell terrier.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    Hi,

    I'm local to Kingston and have to travel from the A1 round past Heathrow at least once a week. I would recommend that you leave no later than 3.45-4.00pm. Personally I would leave the M25 at junction 12 (M3) and head down to the end of the motorway (approx 5 miles) and then follow your sat nav from there. Going any further round the M25 will be very painfull ( I have to get off at Junction 11 and sometimes 10 and both junctions are horrible). You will hit traffic from Heathrow onwards, but stick to the motorway is my 12 years of advice!

    Good Luck

    John

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    That was

    Quote Originally Posted by de30m View Post
    FENTON!
    Richmond Park, but it’s not a million miles away from Kingston and a very pleasant place to drive through. The local sheriff can be out with his speed gun so be careful if venture that way, 20mph limit throughout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnboy9876 View Post
    . Going any further round the M25 will be very painfull ( I have to get off at Junction 11 and sometimes 10 and both junctions are horrible).

    John
    Are you mad, leave at junction 13 then straight down to Sunbury roundabout.

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    No help, but I'm reminded of this

    https://youtu.be/LCpdO8nkmc8
    Last edited by DMC102; 23rd May 2018 at 21:23.

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    Sunbury?

    Quote Originally Posted by steptoe View Post
    Are you mad, leave at junction 13 then straight down to Sunbury roundabout.
    And what do you know😁

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    Leave about 1 am you get there in time.

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    I leave about a hour before you leave to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steptoe View Post
    Are you mad, leave at junction 13 then straight down to Sunbury roundabout.
    Not as mad as leaving at junction 13, the M3 is junction 12

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnboy9876 View Post
    Not as mad as leaving at junction 13, the M3 is junction 12
    He didn’t mention the M3, J13 takes you off onto the A30 & is a fairly straight forward route to Sunbury X. I will however concede that IF the M25 is running freely then M3 is more straight forward.

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    I think Dave is stuck on the m25.

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