Reply With QuoteNo idea. But that's gorgeous!
Hi All,
Today I want to talk about the oldest piece in my collection.. that is an..
Omega DeVille ref# 1660105
This picture was part of the listing back when the watch.. I didn’t know much about watches back then (not much has changed), so what I did, was to get in touch with Brendan to get it restored and serviced.. after a few weeks and a few £££, the watch came back looking like this..
Totally worthy if you ask me! That dial might look very feminine, but it is really quite elegant and unusual..
Now.. I tried to do some research, but I was only able to find conflicting information.
For instance, the case seems to be from the constellation line (see link below)..
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/w...omega-166-0105
The hands are lumed, which would suggest the watch being in the sport line,
i.e. seamaster..
The dial though clearly says “DeVille”.
The only other thing I could find on the web is a picture of a gold plated watch, that looks strikingly similar to mine..
But there again.. not much info.
Now is there anybody who can shed some more light on it? And perhaps indicate me what to do next to take it back to its original form?
Thank you all for reading.
Claudio
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No idea. But that's gorgeous!
I quite like that too but I don't understand what's feminine about having curry house wallpaper on the dial.
In the Sotadic Zone, apparently.
Can’t help you I’m afraid but thanks for posting it, I’ve never seen one of those before. The dial reminds me of this one, sort of, which can’t be bad...
Looking at the original listing photo you posted, isn't it possible that the dial was originally gold like the other you posted, but has degraded and also someone attempted to clean it?
I like the look in black better though.
I thought that but the white text looks very good (to me anyway).
It is possible.. although the writing in white makes me think otherwise. Although, having said that, where does the gold on the dial come from? In the other picture I’ve posted the writing are in black, that’s another mystery to me.Originally Posted by bobbee
Indeed, I honestly don’t know what to think nor what to do next.. actually one thing probably would be to clean the hands and leave the lume only in the middle of the hands and markers, as per the other picture shows. (I hope I make sense, I’m sorry English isn’t my first language).
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You’re right.. if PP does it!Can’t help you I’m afraid but thanks for posting it, I’ve never seen one of those before. The dial reminds me of this one, sort of, which can’t be bad...
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Dials are made of brass or something like that. If you remove them from the movement you'll see that they are gold/golden/amber in color beneath where sometimes they're painted sometimes they're not.
Your watch has lume all over (hands, hour markers and small lume dots at the ends of those markers). The golden watch has onyx stone inlays.
There definitely could be various variants of this watch. It looks genuine to me.
I have one question though. Were the hands painted/coated ? They look like they were painted in white. Were the originals like that ? I can't tell from the photo.
I've seen a couple of distinct looking vintage Omegas throughout time. Maybe yours is one of them... Just hard to find, rare, probably produced in small batches...
Good question about the paint on the hands and markers.. for what I remember, the hands were NOT fully painted (but I might wrong) and the indices were definitely not fully painted. Further more I need to make a correction to my post, the paint is just regular white paint it’s not lumed.
My next step would be to get a replacement Omega strap, or even better a vintage bracelet (mesh or brick pattern).. and look into getting the paint removed from the body of the hands and just leave it in the indentation in the center of the hands itself (similar to the gold one).. same about the indices.
Finally look into the costs of having the dial silver plated.
Any thoughts?
PS. If you guys know someone who might be more knowledgeable about this type of watches, can you please get me in touch with him/her please?
Thank you.
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I've no idea about the history of this but would just like to say that is a fantastic looking watch. I'm loving the dial. An excellent restoration. Would contacting omega directly shead any light on its history?
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I'm not sure of the wisdom of embarking on a project to return it to original until you know what that is. Have you thought about getting an extract from the archives? One other thought might be to contact STS to see if they have any dials in stock.
In the Sotadic Zone, apparently.
This. Personally I think yours looks absolutely gorgeous as is (better than the other one you found), but I can appreciate you wanting to return it to original if you like that sort of thing. But, it seems very unclear just what the 'original' is. Really need to get proper confirmation that yours isn't as it was, or would ever have actually looked like the other you posted; might actually have been changed but originally looked like a totally different model.
Looks like the service has rubbed the last of the gold colouring odd your watch making it appear blue/black now. I think yours is the same as the picture you have shown
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Silver-dialled one here: - http://www.artvalue.com/auctionresul...05-2977835.htm
To be honest.. only Brendan can shed some light about the dial, as he’s the one who has been working on it.
I don’t think my one should look as the one in the picture, I say that, because of the writing on the dial.. which are white on mine and black on the golden one.
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STS? Sorry I’ve never heard of it, could you explain please?
As for the wisdom, or better the lack of.. I think you might be right! It would probably be unwise to try and restore something there’s no record of, I’m probably better off tweaking it to my liking instead.. for instance, getting a mesh bracelet, replace the date wheel which is showing a scratch (19-20) and lastly get the paint off the hands and markers, only to reapply it gingerly to the correct places as shown in the gold watch (the paint would still be white).
STS = SwissTimeServices, vintage Omega specialists.
http://swisstimeservices.co.uk
Made the call, spoken to a guy called Kieran (i think that’s how it’s spelled).. he said he’ll do some “digging” to try and find out what this watch would have looked like and that he will come back to me with pics and info.. my thoughts after speaking to him were, that he believes that the dial is not original to the watch.. that got me worried a bit, I know chances are that my watch is a mix&match, but I was strongly hoping that wouldn’t be the case.. 🤞🏻
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Mr Kieren email.. I would say it adds doubts, more than take em away.. I appreciate his work, and I’m looking forward to see what can ho do the the watch to restore it, he seems genuinely interested..
Hi Claudio,
I can confirm your watch is genuine, Omega made these dials, but you don’t see many of them.
Your dial would have originally been the blue colour you can see but the paint has deteriorated with age so you can see the base metal underneath.
You have the correct calibre 565 movement for this case.
If I can be of any further assistance please don’t hesitate to contact me.
Kind regards,
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Good morning Claudio,
I can confirm the hands and batons are supposed to be white for this particular dial.
What makes you think the case is a constellation? “166” is a Deville, for it to be a constellation it would need to be “168” and it would mean it is a chronometer movement calibre 564.
Kind regards
To which I reply by sending this link
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/w...omega-166-0105
Hi Caludio,
All the other dials I have seen like this have Deville on them so I am not 100% sure why they are saying this a constellation especially as your movement is a 565 calibre.
I would really need to see the watch before I can say exactly what I would recommend needs doing.
Kind regards
Last edited by scucivolo; 29th May 2018 at 16:12.
To be honest I think you should be pleased by Kieran’s response, Claudio, as it would appear that your watch is genuine and original.
I imagine the dial could be restored sympathetically if you can find the right person to do it, and you will then have something that is genuinely rare.
Simon
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