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    'Daytona' folly? From Alpha to Steinhart

    Easing my way back into this lark and have a 'Newman' Daytona itch. Obviously the real deal is unlikely unless I get lucky at a car boot. These Steinhart Ocean One Vintage Chronographs look most agreeable, anyone here have any thoughts, should I take the plunge?

    https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/c...tml?modell=135

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    Nice watches but quite thick. They sit very high on the wrist I believe.

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    Agreed, that's actually put me right off as I had a Sinn 103 once and that went due to thickness. May just have a pop at the £79 Gigandet on Amazon to get it out the system.
    The Steinhart GMT Ex 2 thingy also looks very nice btw.

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    Tiger Concept do one that looks okay for a cheapy.

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    I'd hold fire and wait until Eddie has finalised this latest beauty
    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...k-of-it-so-far

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    Quote Originally Posted by inthered View Post
    I'd hold fire and wait until Eddie has finalised this latest beauty
    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...k-of-it-so-far
    There's a thread about a possible Smiths chronograph that's even nicer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inthered View Post
    I'd hold fire and wait until Eddie has finalised this latest beauty
    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...k-of-it-so-far
    Looks lovely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inthered View Post
    I'd hold fire and wait until Eddie has finalised this latest beauty
    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...k-of-it-so-far
    Now that is VERY moreish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    There's a thread about a possible Smiths chronograph that's even nicer.
    Agreed. I'm still hoping that this will get released at some point.

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    The Steinhart Chrono is outrageously thick - it looks like two watches mounted on top of each other! Shame really as I really like it otherwise.

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    Why are all steinhart chronos so outrageously bulky? (I had the racetimer in brown - gorgeous but gargantuan) Is it simply too costly and awkward to fit chrono movements into smaller cases?

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    If you’re going to go for a ‘homage’ may as well get the Alpha as it’s cheap. It’s actually really nice for the money, just need to adjust the end links (as people moan about the rattle of the bracelet which I fixed in about 30 secs)

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    Mecaquartz chronos are much slimmer

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    If you want something that is exetremely faithful to the original the gevril TriBeCas are probably the way to go.
    Unfortunately they seem to be flying lately in terms of price and exposure.



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    This thread inspired me to try my Alpha on a NATO, liking it!




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    In defence of the Steinhart. It's in proportion if on the really good oem tapered bracelet. The end links go well with the watch case and make the chunkiness much less noticeable on my 7.5 inch wrist. The thickness is normal for a two module movement and after discounting the height of the domed sapphire it's not as thick as might be deduced from its measurements. I do like mine a lot (cream dial).

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    In defence of the Steinhart. It's in proportion if on the really good oem tapered bracelet. The end links go well with the watch case and make the chunkiness much less noticeable on my 7.5 inch wrist. The thickness is normal for a two module movement and after discounting the height of the domed sapphire it's not as thick as might be deduced from its measurements. I do like mine a lot (cream dial).

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefmcd View Post
    Why are all steinhart chronos so outrageously bulky? (I had the racetimer in brown - gorgeous but gargantuan) Is it simply too costly and awkward to fit chrono movements into smaller cases?
    Indeed, at 18 mm, their Daytona knockoff is thicker than a real Deepsea.

    It's certainly possible to fit a 7750 into a slimmer case, but not if you stack on a kludgey module to rearrange the subdials, a domed crystal, and a gee-whiz display back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameswrx View Post
    If you’re going to go for a ‘homage’ may as well get the Alpha as it’s cheap. It’s actually really nice for the money, just need to adjust the end links (as people moan about the rattle of the bracelet which I fixed in about 30 secs)
    I fixed the Alpha PO "homage" strap issues by fitting a PO "homage" strap.

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    There are some Tudors that are affordable and not homage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ar.parask View Post
    If you want something that is exetremely faithful to the original the gevril TriBeCas are probably the way to go.
    I was going to suggest the same thing, especially if 12-hour measuring capability is important to the OP. And notwithstanding this, as lovely as Eddie's upcoming chronograph is, it's unlikely to itch a Daytona scratch.

    Can someone provide a link to the Smiths chrono thread please?

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    A lame-o Daytona imitation is unlikely to scratch that itch, either.

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    Maybe consider the panda dial Long Beach by Aramar? I have one due to arrive next month from their Kickstarter campaign.

    Review below:

    https://monochrome-watches.com/arama...-review-price/

    It doesn't scream Daytona (2 dials for a start!) but it does have that vintage chronograph vibe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belligero View Post
    A lame-o Daytona imitation is unlikely to scratch that itch, either.
    Depends how you look at it.

    If it’s a certain look you want, yes it could.

    If it’s the ‘cool’ factor of having a £80k Watch then obviously it won’t.

    Let’s face it, the Paul Newman Daytona’s are far from actually worth what they’re selling for in terms of a sum of their parts. It’s just the fact they’ve been elevated to this level by Paul Newman himself, blogs, vlogs, the auction of ‘the’ daytona and dealers.

    One thing that I do think is really silly is the fuss behind those gervil ones. They’re no ‘better’ in my eyes to my alpha as they’re a homage/rip off whatever you want to call it. But, again the online world has talked them up into some ‘second best’ to a Daytona! They’re not & a I’m not slaying them I’m just saying it’s ridiculous that they get into their social media fashion/must have and suddenly they’re cool.

    I was watching a vid from some guy that sells vintage Rolex the other day & he had one to sell, normally he’d call crap on anything remotely resembling a Rolex (that wasn’t a Rolex) yet he was quite happy to talk it up to a level way beyond it’s true worth as he was selling it. Now it seems they’ve gained a following and people are paying silly money for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameswrx View Post
    Depends how you look at it.

    If it’s a certain look you want, yes it could.

    If it’s the ‘cool’ factor of having a £80k Watch then obviously it won’t.

    Let’s face it, the Paul Newman Daytona’s are far from actually worth what they’re selling for in terms of a sum of their parts. It’s just the fact they’ve been elevated to this level by Paul Newman himself, blogs, vlogs, the auction of ‘the’ daytona and dealers.

    One thing that I do think is really silly is the fuss behind those gervil ones. They’re no ‘better’ in my eyes to my alpha as they’re a homage/rip off whatever you want to call it. But, again the online world has talked them up into some ‘second best’ to a Daytona! They’re not & a I’m not slaying them I’m just saying it’s ridiculous that they get into their social media fashion/must have and suddenly they’re cool.

    I was watching a vid from some guy that sells vintage Rolex the other day & he had one to sell, normally he’d call crap on anything remotely resembling a Rolex (that wasn’t a Rolex) yet he was quite happy to talk it up to a level way beyond it’s true worth as he was selling it. Now it seems they’ve gained a following and people are paying silly money for them.
    To be fair to them they are not a bad watch.
    Movement is the same used by the Speedmaster reduced. So that on its own ticks a few boxes.
    Quality wise they are probably on par or even better than the screw down Daytonas of that time.
    Ok, they are not Rolex but they look cool and let’s face it who is going to spend 350k for an “authentic” Paul newman?
    Compared to the Alpha, the movement is much better and so is the actual finish of the watch.
    Do they worth the 4K dealers are currently asking for them? Who knows?
    Do the Paul Newman’s worth the 350k?
    All is a bit subjective. To you they might not, to someone who has paid that price they probably do...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ar.parask View Post
    To be fair to them they are not a bad watch.
    Movement is the same used by the Speedmaster reduced. So that on its own ticks a few boxes.
    Quality wise they are probably on par or even better than the screw down Daytonas of that time.
    Ok, they are not Rolex but they look cool and let’s face it who is going to spend 350k for an “authentic” Paul newman?
    Compared to the Alpha, the movement is much better and so is the actual finish of the watch.
    Do they worth the 4K dealers are currently asking for them? Who knows?
    Do the Paul Newman’s worth the 350k?
    All is a bit subjective. To you they might not, to someone who has paid that price they probably do...


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    Was more the principle I was talking, granted they’re a better watch in quality of movement compared to an alpha but I’m meaning no better in terms of provenance. They’re still a rip off of a Daytona successful because of everything they aren’t.

    Based on their movement if they didn’t look like a copy of a Daytona, they’d be what? £800 or so?

    What next? some pompous auctioneer ‘expert’ will be selling us a Gerbil that “Paul Newman’s stunt double wore”. And some must have will pay £20k for it.

    Then I’ll be quids in when people move onto the alpha, They may reach £150 haha

    But then there’s plenty of silly priced watches these days. Some of the old Heuers are crazy money for what they are.

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