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    This is one helluva speedmaster


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    Surely low

    Surely with that kind of provenance it’s worth way more than the estimate????

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    Looks very nice, but for the money I think I'll stick with a speedaonic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subchris View Post
    Surely with that kind of provenance it’s worth way more than the estimate????

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    I’ve yet to see anything with a similar provenance, in any significant auction, go for anything near the guide. I think it’s used as a way for the auction house to attract more interest if I’m not mistaken.

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    On the other hand, it's not like it was associated with a moon mission — the watch was only intended for the low-earth-orbit "space" bus, which isn't anything too special.

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    I’ll be all over that for 10k.

    Legit piece that and a real one off

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    Even rarer than my NASA Speedmaster! I'll be keeping an eye on this auction.

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    What kind of estimate is that! Don't think I've seen such a broad estimate before at this price level.

    Phillip’s is estimating a sale price between $10,600 and $21,200.

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    I'll be surprised if this doesn't make $50k. And not surprised at $100k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefmcd View Post
    I'll be surprised if this doesn't make $50k. And not surprised at $100k.
    I suppose decades of artificially-cheap credit have pumped enough dumb money into the global economy that it's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belligero View Post
    I suppose decades of artificially-cheap credit have pumped enough dumb money into the global economy that it's possible.
    They're offering IFC?!! ;-)

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    Looks nice, but might not be the most legible watch.


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    No mere mortal will be buying that. It’ll go to either the omega museum or a high end collector. These estimates are just plucked from thin air.

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    Looks really cool, but yeah estimate seems on the lower side.

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    This is one helluva speedmaster

    Not sure there is any real provenance? Is there any paperwork or just auction guff?

    Edit just looked at auction and saw delivery receipt. Nice. It’s just there are a few of these “Alaska models” out there that appear to have sold to the public.
    Last edited by simonsays; 8th May 2018 at 10:24.

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    Interesting piece but with it being a Speedsonic (ie DD module piggy-back hummer) movement rather than mechanical Speedmaster, I can't see it making mega money, I would expect $20-40K rather than 6 figures personally.

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    The movement is irrelevant. Provenance is everything. If the NASA connection captures people’s imagination it will fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    I’ve yet to see anything with a similar provenance, in any significant auction, go for anything near the guide. I think it’s used as a way for the auction house to attract more interest if I’m not mistaken.

    Also a way of the auction house being able to state that their particular auction realised results far exceeding the estimates.
    When was the last time you saw an auction house post estimates that turned out higher than the actual selling bid


    Estimates = to be taken with a pinch of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsays View Post
    The movement is irrelevant. Provenance is everything. If the NASA connection captures people’s imagination it will fly.
    Well only up to a point. The watch was designed to be of use to NASA, who rejected it and carried on with what had gone before. The mechanical Speedmaster was selected and flown to the moon and in the vacuum of space. The Omega hummer was not, though Bulova hummer clocks and watches were on many missions of course. I think this has some relevance in affecting the desirability to collectors. It may well fly and will if the museum get involved but it was a developmental dead end from both NASA and Omega's POV in some ways. Indeed the problem as I see it is that it didn't actually ever 'fly'.
    Last edited by Padders; 8th May 2018 at 11:35.

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    Exactly. A rejected design from NASA's era of decline doesn't seem like anything to get too excited about.

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    I find it unconvincing that NASA objected to watch batteries in space as they had been using them all the way back into the early sixties in the 214 accutrons. These flew, in one way or another, in pretty well anything NASA threw up until the end of Apollo - I've never read of a problem.

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    In the unlikely event that the Omega Museum doesn't know about this one, I'll let them know. My estimate is $30k.

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    £120,000 in the end. A bit out of the usual range for a Speedsonic.

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    Told ya so....... ;-)

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    An Omega Prototype that JRPippen would be proud of.

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    This is further evidence that we need to immediately expropriate the wealthy. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSlow View Post
    An Omega Prototype that JRPippen would be proud of.
    That was quite a tale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by futon river crossing View Post
    In the unlikely event that the Omega Museum doesn't know about this one, I'll let them know. My estimate is $30k.
    The museum got it at the end!


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    Quote Originally Posted by futon river crossing View Post
    $120,000 wow!
    Err no £120,000. Possibly plus fees

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsays View Post
    Err no £120,000. Possibly plus fees
    Aha! Even better ;)

    I wonder what that makes my Alaska IV worth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steptoe View Post
    Estimates = to be taken with a pinch of salt.
    You’re a wise man !

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    Small correction: I have just spoken to the Omega Museum, they did not buy it.

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    Proberbly spent up after getting Elvis’s watch!

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    Despite the rarity and selling price I find that particular Speedmaster one of the most unattractive ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by simonsays View Post
    Proberbly spent up after getting Elvis’s watch!
    I guess they are all shook up...

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