Reply With QuoteAt least 2 years after he should have gone.
The end of an era - he's going at the end of the season.
At least 2 years after he should have gone.
Unfortunate. As a Spurs supporter I wish he’d stayed longer! I do admire his achievements though, great manager in his time.Originally Posted by Alansmithee
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Feeling pretty numb to the news. Not been a great experience being an Arsenal fan in the last few years. I don't expect us to immediately start doing better than our recent mediocrity but there is a tinge of excitement about something new, at least.
Hopefully he can sign off with a trophy.
I don't know anything about football, but it will make Pierce Morgan's week
I'm not sure Arsene Wenger did in the last few years.
He did well, but it’s overdue
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I predict 5 years on the managerial merry-go-round before the most revered 'Get Wenger Out' campaigners are waving 'Get Wenger Back' banners.
I think Spurs fans will be gutted! Be interesting who gets the job?
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Correct, although I'd say more like 4 years.
I bet he didn't see it coming.
I'm not sure Arsene Wenger did in the last few years.
As as someone who isn't into any sport whatsoever!.
So is it the guys on the field (any field) that do all the running around and scoring,hence the huge salaries!for their skill.
The managers as I've seen it on the very odd time (whilst drinking Guiness down the pub) are on the edge of the pitch shouting and gesturing to do whatever!,for an equally huge salary.
So just what is there input?.If it's a lot like managers in other areas,if they are well liked then workers will acknowledge that and work accordingly,if not the opposite may be true,so when a club is doing well the manager must be a great guy to have around,but still not knowing what he's there for!,when not well liked he's out the door because the players have decided to play.......not so well.
And so,when one team wins,the other teams manager has under performed (not the players!!!)so is sacked as it seems happens after several games.Remove the managers,the match is played,the winning team are obviously better than the loosing team,reduce the salary of the loosing team so as to improve their game.
But I guess my views are just too simplistic for the avid and knowledgable followers,which the ensuing replies will confirm.........I'm very sure of that.
Mixed emotions. He has done so much for the club but the time is right. He just doesn’t seem to have it in terms of tactics with the current crop of managers. My dad pointed me to an article when I was a teenager that talked about how Arsene changed the face of English football in terms of diets, drinking culture, training, discipline etc. At the time it was revolutionary so we had the edge. Slowly clubs caught up then had bigger budgets from takeovers so our edge was lost and we could not financially keep up. There is is no denying hi impact on arsenal and English football.
I hope he stays on or comes back in some capacity because the values he has instilled in the club from youth to how we play is great and if we lost that like unite have it would be a massive shame. What ever he does next I wish him all the best. Nothing but respect for him.
I don't think that football is very different to work/business in this sense and your latter example of removing managers and reducing pay for the loosing team isn't feasible imho - imagine doing that for a team where you work - do you think it would be effective?
The pay, which I personally think is too high, is simply a function of the revenue generated by the sport.
Re: Wenger - Hope he is remembered for what he achieved at Arsenal throughout the 22 years, rather than just the last couple of seasons.
A team without a manager is like a movie without a director. All great performers need direction.
Be interesting to see who takes over. Luis Enrique and Viera have been doing the rounds. Agree, Spurs fans will probably be gutted.
Surely more than 4 years! Hopefully can go out on a high by winning the Europa league cup.
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Overdue. Viera in next.
Twelve months ago, I'd have expected Vieira to take over after Pep. He's coached the youth team and now he's at New York.
Lately though, I'm more convinced that Arteta is the long term option . Maybe Paddy will take up the Gooners hot seat .
Huge task for anyone , mind .
I'm quite sad. I'll always remember the tussles between Arsenal and United, Wenger and Ferguson, Viera and Keane. Great sporting events.
We've got Guardiola and Mourinho already, how about Simeone? Has he taken Atletico Madrid as far as he can?
I'd be gutted to see Simeone come in. He makes Mourinho look exciting and attacking.
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It may be abit late for some arsenal fans but he's done a lot for the club and is a true legend
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As a Tottenham fan I wish he would stay.
Old man retires. Personally I cannot get excited by the news.
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
Friedrich Nietzsche
As an Arsenal fan for 49 years, I think we owe him every last ounce of gratitude and respect for what he has done for our club.
People who talk about the last 4 or 5 years as terrible weren’t around during the decade or more when finishing above mid-table was a good result. Of course he has been past his best in the last few years, and overtaken by others. I just hope the next 5 years are at least as successful as the last 5. Manchester United found out painfully just how far you can fall when a great manager leaves. Without Arsene around for the last 20 years we easily could have gone the same way as Everton, Newcastle etc.
As for Spurs, most Spurs fans dream of having a fraction of the success Arsene has brought. They have a better and more exciting team than us this season, and last, and good luck to them. They’ve also had the years without a trophy, but without the glory years before.
I’m glad there is a change now, but he has been one of the Top 5 English club managers of all time in my view and has made the club what it is today.
Sad news, i just hope it doesn't affect the Arsenal players battle for sixth place with Burnley.
Change is scary but much needed. Clearly the club was in a rut and suffered an embarrassing number of thumpings over the last few years. No matter who comes in, at least it's a change.
Wenger has been good for Arsenal and in return Arsenal has been good to Wenger, the 1st 10 years he was very successful with 7 trophies.
The next 12 years we were not in terms of being competitive in the league and in Europe, a reminder that he went 8 years without a trophy which no top club in the world would accept.
Wenger has given me lots of happy memories at Highbury, Wembley, Cardiff and the Emirates but these last 4 to 6 years have tainted his legacy with poor performances, poor results and poor excuses.
Totally agree... it wasn’t always much fan being a fan growing up when I was a kid. Terry Neill was my ‘first’ Arsenal manager, the FA cups of 78, 79 and 80 were a wonderful time but Arsenal Wenger has done so much for our club, he should be applauded and respected, yes the time had come (and gone) for someone else to take the reins but I can afford him the indulgence of trying to secure that last dream before he walked away.
My son is 20 this year so has never known any other manager, he has always known Champions League football, FA cup and league success with the highest Caliber of players... and that is largely thanks to Arsenal Wenger.
Well due a change but I for one am happy to pay him his dues and acknowledge what he has done for us.
As for who’s next... I’m sure that’s already sorted.
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Unai Emery looks like the man coming in. Good appointment.
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Agreed... Arteta could have been interesting though
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Ooh you are awful
Surely not long until the sun points out we've hired a Europa league specialist
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I thought Arteta was pretty much a done deal?
One of several people interviewed, unanimous support for Emery after the interview according to Ornstein.
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Unai Emery has got his previous teams (Valencia and Sevilla) into the Champions League, being realistic we will never win the big one because Kronke will never spend the money needed to be the best team in Europe, with this manager we can possibly finished in the top 4 and win the Europa League within 2 years.
Managers that we would have like to have come to Arsenal in the last 4 years, Guardiola who has not won a European trophy with Munich or City, the same with Allegri & Conte at Juventus, Ancelotti with PSG & Munich, Klopp nothing at Dortmund and we will find out Saturday with Liverpool, Simone as you know won the Europa with a style that 50% of the supporters and the board will not appreciate and Enrique who won the Champions League but that was with the all conquering Barcelona.
Emery is not my 1st choice but under the current footballing structure (Gazdis, Mislintat and Sanllehi) and the budget restrictions he is the right choice for Kronke and the board, he ticks all the boxes for me, lots of experience, able to handle the pressure at a high level club and has won trophies.
Could never have seen Arse appointing Arteta and was surprised he was in the frame, I mean what as he achieved. This guy Emery knows his way around a football club
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Very relieved about it being Emery. Watched his Valencia team through 2008-12 and was a big fan, bringing through a young David Villa, David Silva and Juan Mata.
I think my stomach would have had a little wobble had a risk been taken on Arteta.
I was on board with Arteta. I also had concerns about his experience.
I do agree though that someone with more experience is good. It seems most clubs that have been through this, go through a few managers before they find a good match. Perhaps that will happen here too.
WRT Arteta, he is held in a very high regard at City and I think Pep would’ve loved him to stay on. His work with all the players, but particularly Sterling and Sane is well documented and very successful. Selfishly, I’m delighted he’s staying and will continue to learn from Pep. He’s future manager material, wether or not it’s at City I don’t know. There will be others calling for his services. As for the ‘What has he won as a manager’ comment . What did any manager win before he became a manager ?🤔
Even Emery has a job on his hands here. I think Arsenal fans will be in for a rude awakening after Wenger. Without the CL they could find it difficult to attract the type of players they need without paying huge wages.
And we know how that works at Arsenal .
I suppose I should renew my season ticket...I'll await them making it official.
Arteta we may have taken a punt on if we had the leverage of Champions league, but Emery seems as safe a bet as any at this stage. I think it's more we need a change of mindset that he may get 2 seasons and if no good move him on. I clapped Wenger at our last home game, but it was time to go, 3 points on the road in 2018 just not good enough. We may be in for some ups and down but it's damn sight more exciting than the groundhog day it was becoming (with regards to the league). Our attacking players not bad (looking forward to Lucazette/ Aubam/ Muckymancunian combination) but the DM and CB needs addressing....and I've just seen we've given Cech the No 1 shirt for the new seasonI certainly won't be buying the home shirt...
https://www.arsenal.com/news/home-ki...oshoot-gallery
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As a fan , you know how it goes.I suppose I should renew my season ticket...I'll await them making it official.
Arteta we may have taken a punt on if we had the leverage of Champions league, but Emery seems as safe a bet as any at this stage. I think it's more we need a change of mindset that he may get 2 seasons and if no good move him on. I clapped Wenger at our last home game, but it was time to go, 3 points on the road in 2018 just not good enough. We may be in for some ups and down but it's damn sight more exciting than the groundhog day it was becoming (with regards to the league). Our attacking players not bad (looking forward to Lucazette/ Aubam/ Muckymancunian combination) but the DM and CB needs addressing....and I've just seen we've given Cech the No 1 shirt for the new season
https://www.arsenal.com/news/home-ki...oshoot-gallery
If we signed Mr Bean as our manager( or worse, Jose) I'm still daft enough to renew. It's what we do .
Lacazette, Aubameyang and Mikhitaryian are not suddenly rubbish. Ickle Jackie and Ramsey are solid MFs , the defence is not as bad as dome make out and the keeper is , or should be, still considered as one of the best about.
Perhaps perceptions need to change and a few egos need to be massaged but Arse are not teetering on the edge of a cliff. I hope Emery does bring them round a little.
Although Arse TV will be nowhere near as much fun .
Do players really care about Champions League football or the big fat wages they will be getting week after week? Arsenal and probably every other big club that was not in the Champions League paid out for players on huge wages...
Robinho to Man City who finished 14th in the league the previous season.
Pogba to Man U a world record transfer fee paid at the time and believed to be paid £300k a week
Kante to Chelsea who did not qualify for European football
Aubameyang to Arsenal where he could not play in the Europa League
No big money club would take on a manager without experience, before Pep got the job would you have wanted or accepted Patrick Vieira as your new manager?
Yes Emery has got his hands full at Arsenal but if he gets the defence right then we should be nearer to the top 4 compared to where we finished this season.
If he can repeat what he did at Valencia and Sevilla then I think most of supporters will be happy, the board and owner will be laughing all the way to the bank.
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The CL isn't a major factor in PL transfers, as most teams can afford the wages regardless.
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