I have been patiently waiting for this lovely silver half hunter wristwatch to arrive from America.
Dennison case, Birmingham hallmark 1914.
I have a Waltham Riverside movement for it. And a selection of rare dials. Hard to know which one to choose.
The back is engraved but I love the name so won't remove it.
Here it is. Straight from the package :
More once I have restored it...
Last edited by Webwatchmaker; 19th April 2018 at 12:14.
Beautiful dial!
Cant wait to see that Brendan!
I have never seen a cover like that, with the small window and big numbers.
I bet it will brush up beautifully.
It is really gorgeous and the enamel on the case is perfect ! Hinges fine too.Originally Posted by ach5
Sadly I won't be able to do anything til I'm back from holiday.
Got 10 TZ watches and 22 others to fix before I go.
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Unfortunately my girlfriend loves the watch we spoke about so that’ll be adding to the list! But it’s not urgent, I’ll email you for when’s convenient.
Alternative dial:
And those beautiful slim hands. Purely period American.
Brendan
Very nice Brendan.
Here is a 1915 advert from the London Illustrated News.
Fantastic !Very nice Brendan.
Here is a 1915 advert from the London Illustrated News.
49 shillings! Same price in the 70s at Portobello Market.
Thank you bobbee.
Brendan
A bit of history regarding Schierwater & Lloyd and their premises in Liverpool.
Between the two world wars Schierwater & Lloyd had an electric cuckoo clock above their shop in Church Street. Illuminated at night and also had a floodlight that came on when the cuckoo appeared. So popular it was that crowds would gather and wait for the cuckoo's appearance.
Simpler times, eh!
R
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
I love things like that.
Wells cathedral clock too is amazing.
Brendan
Looking forward to seeing the results of this I love silver watches they always polish up nicely, the dial on that looks just lovely. Here is the only silver cased one currently in my collection, the other one is out for service.
I do have an old Waltham pocket watch I really need to send out for service one day.
Interesting to read about the Church street shop in Liverpool don't suppose anyone has any old photos of the store? From what I recall the Sewills old place is now apartments.
Gratuitous shot of my three silver ones, 1915 Waltham, 1914 no name, 1921 Medana (Mayer & Studeli).
Lovely ! Can you please photograph the insides ?Gratuitous shot of my three silver ones, 1915 Waltham, 1914 no name, 1921 Medana (Mayer & Studeli).
Brendan
The no name, with a replacement 'wermachtswerk' AS 1130. A swap with a friend.
The Waltham, lovely marking.
The Medana. M&S movement.
Here is a nice nickel cased1913 Omega, waiting for me to fabricate a bezel.
Thanks for the photos.The no name, with a replacement 'wermachtswerk' AS 1130. A swap with a friend.
The Waltham, lovely marking.
The Medana. M&S movement.
Here is a nice nickel cased1913 Omega, waiting for me to fabricate a bezel.
The replacement 1130 needs a period movement with enamel dial.
Nice Waltham 7 jewel.1900s
Medana is a Swiss cylinder.1900s
The Omega is the 'Labrador' movement. 1900s. One of their first successful watches.
Brendan
Better pic of the M&S and Waltham. The Waltham is an unusual one, it is an Illinois Watch Case Co. case, screw on back and bezel negative setting but with British silver marks.
Cannot find any photographs of the store, but there's a reference to it in this:
R"Tramcar drivers looked puzzled, motorists scratched their heads and pedestrians stopped and listened. Unmistakedly above the noise of traffic came the familiar call- cuckoo, cuckoo. The bird had not strayed from the countryside but forms part of an interesting cuckoo clock which has been installed above the premises of Messrs Schierwater & Lloyd Ltd. The clock is a 24 hour all-electric one which is illuminated at night. There is also a small floodlight which brings the cuckoo into the limelight when it appears from its nest every hour and calls the hour. This is the only clock of its type in the world and hundreds of people waited in Church street as each hour approached to hear the cuckoo's call."
('The Liverpool Book of Days' by Steven Horton)
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
Thanks for sharing all these amazing pics!
First polish of my half hunter. Crystal glass to fit when polishing is done.
Brendan
Looking very good!
Possible, time is correct? http://www.thepeerage.com/p4554.htm#i45540
Yes. Timing perfect. I looked on Google but only found a writer and a granny kicking her daughter out.
Thanks. You are a great resourcer.X researcher !
Brendan
Last edited by Webwatchmaker; 20th April 2018 at 19:18.
You're welcome sir, would be great if that watch was gifted to/by her wouldn't it?
Looking forward to your rejuvenation of it.
Yes indeed and truly the watch of a person with breeding, but how could I prove it ?
It will be a few weeks yet before I can properly get to it.
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A few of my Waltham and Elgin wristwatch dials:
Brendan
Some nice dials there.
Here are a couple of ads, 1914 Elgin and 1915 Waltham that match a few of your dials.
Elgin claiming the US war dept. recently purchased Elgin wrist watches for the cavalry, no less.
Last edited by bobbee; 21st April 2018 at 08:36.
Great stuff. Of course the Americans became very good at mass production due to weapon manufacture. They were ahead for a while !
I would love to find a book on enamel dial making. Waltham used to fire 300 at a time apparently.
Car boot this morning but nothing around.
Brendan
Last edited by Webwatchmaker; 21st April 2018 at 08:43.
Some online books you might like.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?...=1;skin=mobile
https://archive.org/stream/watchmake...ng+watch+dials
https://archive.org/stream/tariffhea...ng+watch+dials
Methods.
Last edited by bobbee; 21st April 2018 at 09:36.
Hope these post ok Brendan, but your original post prompted me to dig out my old half-hunter.
There is a nice inscription on the reverse:
“Presented to R.S.M Green K.O.Y.L.I by the Members of the SEARGEANTS MESS Young Soldiers BATTn
CANADIANS
BEXHILL 10.10.1917”
It is my intention, if you’re ok Brendan with it, to put it in to your care for TLC, as you did with my Zenith Defy, following your holiday!
If it’s bad form to add to your post, please could the mods remove it.
Last edited by Mainspring; 21st April 2018 at 15:48.
That IS nice mainspring. Separate chapter ring and an early AS bar movement. I have a box of them and enamel dials to fit. Look forward to seeing it.Hope these post ok Brendan, but your original post prompted me to dig out my old half-hunter.
There is a nice inscription on the reverse:
“Presented to R.S.M Green K.O.Y.L.I by the Members of the SEARGEANTS MESS Young Soldiers BATTn
CANADIANS
BEXHILL 10.10.1917”
It is my intention, if you’re ok Brendan with it, to put it in to your care for TLC, as you did with my Zenith Defy, following your holiday!
If it’s bad form to add to your post, please could the mods remove it.
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Hope these post ok Brendan, but your original post prompted me to dig out my old half-hunter.
There is a nice inscription on the reverse:
“Presented to R.S.M Green K.O.Y.L.I by the Members of the SEARGEANTS MESS Young Soldiers BATTn
CANADIANS
BEXHILL 10.10.1917”
It is my intention, if you’re ok Brendan with it, to put it in to your care for TLC, as you did with my Zenith Defy, following your holiday!
If it’s bad form to add to your post, please could the mods remove it.
KOYLI:
RSM Green may have been a party to training the Canadian recruits at Bexley training centre.
What I could find regarding that.
http://www.eastsussexww1.org.uk/canadians-bexhill-sea/
Thanks very much!
I’d forgotten I had it, until this thread jogged my memory!
It is in lovely condition for a 101 year old watch.
It needs some TLC, so will be off to you as soon as you can fit it in!
Thanks,
Pete
Last edited by Mainspring; 21st April 2018 at 17:04.
Back in the slave trade end of May !
Brendan
Excellent - enjoy your break, and I’ll email you during June to see when to send it off to you.
Cheers
Thanks M. I look forward.
Brendan
Thanks Bobbee - fascinating stuff!
My box of mostly AS bar movements (no calibre number) and some dials to fit:
Brendan
Trench watches, history of early watches, Brendan showing his bits (!), hog heaven!
Video of Canadian recruits training at Bexhill, 1917.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...LQKWJcyYuFp-XJ
Maybe RSM Green is in there somewhere.
*Yes, thanks Bobbee. Most informative.
Brendan
I love the history here. Thanks again!
Just think, some of those men in the video most likely bought that watch for the owner.
Indeed - very thought-provoking.
Another example from my modest collection.....
This one is running well. Gave it a wind 45 mins ago, and now showing the correct time! (Well it was when I took the shot. Time-lapse was trying to remember how to post pics!).
Last edited by Mainspring; 21st April 2018 at 18:11.
And 23 years later another cataclysm !
It breaks my heart to know the loss of life.
Those trench watches carry a heavy price .
Brendan
Quite so Brendan.
That is why I find them fascinating pieces.
Me too. Especially when they are engraved.
I had a 1914 centre seconds trench Stauffer et Cie engraved Captain James Allworthy RAMC. £2 Portobello Market 1975.
Wish I hadn't sold it.
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Another Schierwater !
Brendan
I had just opened my shop, had little stock so put it in the window at the ridiculous price of £350.00. A guy bought it next day ! I was gutted and delighted !
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