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Thread: Storm Aqua-Pro 1000M WR Test. A Quick Bump.

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    Storm Aqua-Pro 1000M WR Test. A Quick Bump.

    How about this for WR on a budget?

    https://www.menkind.co.uk/storm-aqua...watch-47281-bk

    If you read this thread you will see that we have decided to submit a Storm Aqua-Pro watch to a Pressure Test. The watch has claimed WR rating of 1000 Metres. Storm Watches London has reiterated that they stand by the WR claim (see below).

    Very kindly, our esteemed member animalone has agreed to purchase the watch directly and do the testing pressure testing. Animalone undertakes produce a video of the test to show us how it goes.

    In return, we are soliciting £5 each from participating contributors against the cost of the watch purchase to go to animalone directly. All contributions over and above the purchase price (£100 I think) will be paid into the TZ-UK charity fundraiser.

    If the watch survives the pressure testing , animal one will put all the contributors names in a hat and the watch will go to the first named/contributor drawn out of the hat.

    NOTE: If you would like to contribute a fiver to the test purchase, please send a pm to animalone and he will pm you in return with his PayPal email address. You can use PayPal gift (through Friends and Family I think it's called) to avoid fees.
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    Anybody volunteering to test it???

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGrumpy View Post
    Anybody volunteering to test it???
    Calling Doug...

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    Well, it's got a helium valve. Do quartz watches need a helium valve?

    Hmm, I just realised I don't even know why a watch needs a helium valve. Where does the helium come from?

    Off to Google....

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    “Amazing Storm watch”
    “Gorgeous and reliable design”
    someone left it to the intern to write up the description...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha4 View Post
    Well, it's got a helium valve. Do quartz watches need a helium valve?

    Hmm, I just realised I don't even know why a watch needs a helium valve. Where does the helium come from?

    Off to Google....
    only from a HEO2 saturation environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408 View Post
    only from a HEO2 saturation environment.
    I may have pioneered the first use of a helium escape valve in a wet environment last weekend 😀

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxdiver View Post
    I may have pioneered the first use of a helium escape valve in a wet environment last weekend 
    I left mine open a few times on the SMP, never leaked though

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    I wore my watch (Seamaster quartz) over my drysuit wrist seal, but underneath my dry glove, which was pretty pointless as I couldn’t see it, but bear with me. I then ran my drysuit inflation from my trimix bailout. As the suit equalises with the gloves, the watch did the dive dry in a Helium environment 😀 although a ‘wet’ dive. Last laugh on me though as I was freezing due to using trimix for suit inflation. I am going to claim the world’s first non-sat use of a helium escape valve on a watch 👍

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    Push-in or screw-down crowns?

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    Imo we should buy it and send to Dunc for 100bar testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxdiver View Post
    I wore my watch (Seamaster quartz) over my drysuit wrist seal, but underneath my dry glove, which was pretty pointless as I couldn’t see it, but bear with me. I then ran my drysuit inflation from my trimix bailout. As the suit equalises with the gloves, the watch did the dive dry in a Helium environment  although a ‘wet’ dive. Last laugh on me though as I was freezing due to using trimix for suit inflation. I am going to claim the world’s first non-sat use of a helium escape valve on a watch 
    Yeah, we've all done that at some time or another....
    Bloody snorkelling, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    Push-in or screw-down crowns?

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    Don't know yet. I've bought one as a holiday watch, so I'll let you know ref crowns when it arrives.

    Mind you, I'm only going swimming with it on, so I'll never know if the WR is as stated.

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    UPDATE: I have emailed Storm Watches, London to ask if they stand by the claim of 1000M Water Resistance. I have asked if they certify the WR in some way and if they test a sample of the watch in question so as to verify the claim made on the watch dial.

    I will post their response (if any).

    Lets see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha4 View Post
    UPDATE: I have emailed Storm Watches, London to ask if they stand by the claim of 1000M Water Resistance. I have asked if they certify the WR in some way and if they test a sample of the watch in question so as to verify the claim made on the watch dial.

    I will post their response (if any).

    Lets see what happens.
    Be interesting, can't really make a claim to do something and not do it otherwise I imagine there is some trading standards being broken somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    Push-in or screw-down crowns?

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    Just found instructions pdf. Says main crown is screw down. Doesn't mention pushers being screw down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha4 View Post
    UPDATE: I have emailed Storm Watches, London to ask if they stand by the claim of 1000M Water Resistance. I have asked if they certify the WR in some way and if they test a sample of the watch in question so as to verify the claim made on the watch dial.

    I will post their response (if any).

    Lets see what happens.
    Here is Storm Watches' reply to me FWIW:

    "Hi Alpha4,

    Thank you for your e-mail and interest in the AQUA-PRO.


    We confirm that the AQUA-PRO is pressure tested up to 1000m.


    The watch is suitable for recreational diving up to this depth.


    Thank you."

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    Lol don't believe them.

    1000m is 1400psi+

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    Want to chip in to buy one to put to the test?

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    RECREATIONAL diving upto 1000m?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bry1975 View Post
    Lol don't believe them.

    1000m is 1400psi+
    Thats almost 1kg per square mm. I wonder how thick the glass is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 200mwaterresistant View Post
    Want to chip in to buy one to put to the test?
    I'm game I can also test up to 1250m and video the results for you all

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    I'll chip in. I've bought one, which is on it's way to me, but I might want to keep it.

    Are you going to order it direct to you animalone? Tell me where to send the money (PayPal gift?) and I'll contribute £5 (or other amount if required).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha4 View Post
    I'll chip in. I've bought one, which is on it's way to me, but I might want to keep it.

    Are you going to order it direct to you animalone? Tell me where to send the money (PayPal gift?) and I'll contribute £5 (or other amount if required).
    Couldn't add one to the basket as it said unavailable, however I have just ordered one direct from Storm outlet to test.
    Cost a bit more but sure it will be worth it. (£100)

    What I'll do is if anyone wants to chip in £5 to cover the cost I'll put their names in a hat and if the watch survives I will draw a name to win it. Anything we raise over the cost of the watch will go to the fundraiser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animalone View Post
    Couldn't add one to the basket as it said unavailable, however I have just ordered one direct from Storm outlet to test.
    Cost a bit more but sure it will be worth it. (£100)

    What I'll do is if anyone wants to chip in £5 to cover the cost I'll put their names in a hat and if the watch survives I will draw a name to win it. Anything we raise over the cost of the watch will go to the fundraiser.
    OK. Great. How do I pay my £5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha4 View Post
    OK. Great. How do I pay my £5?
    I'll pm you my details, thanks
    Is it worth editing the thread title?

    For everyone else who wants to contribute put your name up on this thread and I will pm you my details next week after I get back from Basel.

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    I plan on doing the pressure test at the end of the month, so that will give plenty of time if you want to put your name down (I'll update this post as we go)
    I will set the cost of the watch at the £55 of the original advert so everything we raise over that will go to the fundraiser I'll cover the difference and postage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido-K View Post
    RECREATIONAL diving upto 1000m?!
    That made me laugh too


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    Quote Originally Posted by animalone View Post
    I plan on doing the pressure test at the end of the month
    I fear for the safety of this watch!


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    Quote Originally Posted by cf31bloobird View Post
    I fear for the safety of this watch!


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    I'm more than a touch sceptical about it myself,

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    I'm In, tell me where to send the fiver.

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    Lol im sure we'd all donate a fiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulM View Post
    I'm In, tell me where to send the fiver.
    Just pm me and I will get it sorted when I get back next week.

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    Testing the Marinemaster Tuna 1000m


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    Ok, it's arrived. And it's a big hefty thing! Seems to have a thick crystal with some sort of gasket around the edge. Edit: may be just the edge of the crystal - not a gasket. Lugs quite curved, so should wear ok. Now to resize the bracelet.


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    Last edited by Alpha4; 22nd March 2018 at 10:57.

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    Just to report that the Storm Aqua-Pro watch as delivered this morning is DOA. I assume the battery is dead. I have contacted Menkind from whence I purchased it (link in first post) to see how they want to deal with this.

    Because of the high WR it will have to be pressure tested properly after a professional (i.e. not high street) battery change. Any recommendations for this please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha4 View Post

    Because of the high WR it will have to be pressure tested properly after a professional (i.e. not high street) battery change. Any recommendations for this please?
    Isnt that the whole purpose of this thread? To have the watch pressure tested and filmed?

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    With the 100bar rating you would assume the crystal is sealed with an L gasket.

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    Are the pushers screwed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevecross View Post
    Are the pushers screwed?
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha4 View Post
    Nope.
    Mmmm, interesting

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    Being screwed down doesn't increase WR in most cases. It usually just ensures that the seals remain seated if the crown/pusher is knocked.

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    A gentle bump to see if it's possible to help animalone a bit more towards the cost and test of this watch.

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    Now that I'm back I can turn my attention to this properly

    The watch has arrived with me an I hadn't appreciated how big it was so a couple of shots next to my SBBN013 for scale.



    At present only two people have entered for a chance to win this watch (IF it survives !!!!) so if you want a chance to win it then you will need to let me know before Saturday when I plan on doing the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedlam View Post
    Testing the Marinemaster Tuna 1000m

    Love the tag line at the conclusion of the video...”SEIKO Dedicated to Perfection”. Quite ironic considering the other thread about misaligned chapter rings and Seiko’s “it’s close enough” response.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanV View Post
    Love the tag line at the conclusion of the video...”SEIKO Dedicated to Perfection”. Quite ironic considering the other thread about misaligned chapter rings and Seiko’s “it’s close enough” response.
    Every Seiko I have bought has had no issue. And if you buy from an AD there is a 12 month warranty. So where are people getting these watches? Factory seconds on the grey market? Why would that be Seiko's issue to fix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedlam View Post
    Every Seiko I have bought has had no issue. And if you buy from an AD there is a 12 month warranty. So where are people getting these watches? Factory seconds on the grey market? Why would that be Seiko's issue to fix?
    From what I read there was no issue with warranty. It was more that Seiko said that repair was not necessary as the alignment issues were within tolerance and therefore perfectly acceptable.

    And while I'm here I may as well have a ticket for this little raffle. Watching with interest!


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    Thank you for the contributions so far,

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    4. Scottd
    5. Arcam
    6. Onespeed
    7. Templogin
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    What do you think will it survive or die ?
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    I am in as well, PM sent

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedlam View Post
    Every Seiko I have bought has had no issue. And if you buy from an AD there is a 12 month warranty. So where are people getting these watches? Factory seconds on the grey market? Why would that be Seiko's issue to fix?
    I’ve seen a lot of for sales stating that alignment is spot on, or this isn’t perfect so beware ocd guys.
    There have been a good number of threads on numerous forums about this, but it does happen on other brands too.

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