Reply With QuoteMaybe maybe not.Originally Posted by SimonK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-43430301
Not sure what to think, but a politcally correct, left-leaning director doesn't fill me with confidence.
Maybe maybe not.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-43430301
It's shown as 'announced' on IMDB and 'confirmed' in The Telegraph online.
Whether he gets the gig or not, I'm sure Boyle as an Oscar winning director, would make a good job of it, hopefully better than Spectre.
Seems an odd choice, I’m not a fan of his films (tough his Olympic ceremony was terrific).
Maybe he will bring something else to the party?
Could be an excellent choice imo.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought Spectre was pants!
I think it’s fair to say Danny Boyle is one of the more versatile directors. If you look at what he’s done in the past, he’s never really stuck to a particular style. As long as he has a decent script, I’m sure he’ll do the franchise proud.
Having watched Dunkirk yesterday, which was fantastic IMHO, I was hoping that Nolan might direct it, with Tom Hardy (cool as f**k, btw) as Bond.
As for Boyle, I am sure he will make it interesting.
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
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Well I loved it. Very different from the 70’s films I started with, granted!
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This could get me back to being excited about Bond films. With the exception of Skyfall, I wouldn't say recent Bond films have been that memorable.
I’m pretty sure Christopher Nolan would’ve been in the running (maybe even offered the gig). He’s probably a more natural choice than Danny Boyle, and shown his skills for big blockbusters.
I’m not sure about Tom Hardy as Bond though. A bit too rough around the edges, and maybe too serious. (Although he’s genuinely funny in Peaky Blinders).
I think Clive Owen would’ve been a great Bond, but he’s missed his window now.
As this is Daniel Craigs last bond maybe a Nolan/Hardy pairing for the next film. I now love Tom Hardy but it took me a long time to get over Bane
I must be the only person in the world who sees right through Hardy . He’s about as wooden as 4 b 2 timber from Hollywood . Stupid accents ranging from most of them mockney to weird ramblings of accents from around the world . He’s kind of like that lad in school who could do an accent from anywhere . Doesn’t mean he’s a top actor . Yes I’ve seen The Revenant ( that was like he watched deliverance and copied a hick accent ) , Bane (inaudible) , Krays ( practiced his Danny dyer voices ) , mad max ( major flop plus Didn’t have to speak)
Just a complete over rated person IMO . Just lucky and happens to be contemporary and relevant for all these films .
But Danny Boyle directing will be interesting . I only liked bits of scenes of the Daniel Craig regime of bonds . Each of them as films are codswallop .
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I know what you mean, but this is a bit of a rabbit hole wrt to actors in general. There’s a fine line between being a convincing “character actor” and over-acting. I don’t think Hardy’s wooden, but he’s arguably just chewing the scenery. (He’s good in Peaky Blinders because it’s all pretty ott, he’s less convincing when subtlety is required, but did well in Locke - which did require restraint). The problem is, many Hollywood “greats” are of a similar ilk.
Its the reason that he is quite dead pan that would make him perfect for Bond. It's certainly not a part that requires a Laurence Oliver lovey type actor (all shouty and arm waving). Hence why Timmy was so bad and Sean/Roger so perfect
Bond needs to be emotional dead, calm in a crisis, a bit of a looker/charmer and have a sense of humour and above all not to take it to seriously.
IMHO of course
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
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Perhaps the technical challenge of dissimulating Hardy's chavvy tattoos would be too great.
I agree , but not him . It’s like he gets all the marketable roles lobbed his way as it’s convenient. I’m suprised he’s not playing Ken Dodd in the forthcoming biopic . They gave him venom also . They just attach his name to any franchise it’s disgusting -It’s probably going to happen so I’ll moan now get it over with . I’d of preferred anyone even Hugh Jackman , Clive Owen , Mark Strong even that Tom Hiddleston.Its the reason that he is quite dead pan that would make him perfect for Bond. It's certainly not a part that requires a Laurence Oliver lovey type actor (all shouty and arm waving). Hence why Timmy was so bad and Sean/Roger so perfect
Bond needs to be emotional dead, calm in a crisis, a bit of a looker/charmer and have a sense of humour and above all not to take it to seriously.
IMHO of course
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Wouldn’t catch Roger , Sean , Timothy , Pierce or even Danny boy sporting those tribal , peasant markings .
They should just bring Brosnan out of retirement. The franchise is due a bit of comedy and hammy ness . They’ve done the dark back to roots with DC covering that Connery type espionage so by rights it should be onto a Moore type phase by that rationale
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What about Henry Cavill? He did the suave hammy style in the Men From Uncle film.
Fassbender would have been my choice but guess too old now considering will be 2020 plus for Bond 26 filming
James Norton, surely, for next Bond. Even studied at the same university.
Danny Boyle should be fine as director, assuming the script is better than recent efforts. Dalton was of course the best bond but in the wrong decade. Craig is the modern Dalton, but can't help telegraphing his resentment of the role.
I’ve only seen him in McMafia and the (terrible) Flatliners remake, and just can’t see him as Bond based on those performances. I’m just not sure he has any kind of tough edge, which Bond needs imo. This is what rules out Tom Hiddleston, and maybe even Michael Fassbender for me. Bond needs an underlying element of thuggishness, that even Roger Moore displayed when he wasn’t arseing around.
Dominic West is another one who would have been good, and I agree that Mark Strong might also have done well, but all these guys are about 10 years too old.
Admittedly though, Daniel Craig didn’t look great on paper, but has been great in the role (almost despite himself).
^^^Well summed up, reading some other posts in this thread I'm left wondering if some have actually read Flemings 'Bond' novels.
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
He's got the goods, but you need to see his performance in Happy Valley. McMafia is dismal all round, but shows he can wear nice suits and be cool under fire. So he can do nasty and nice, thug and gent - the bond table stakes really.
Outside chance: Alex Lawther. Or Lupita Nyong'o.
I’m re-reading this at the moment, for about the 15th time.
Daniel Craig did really well I think, and some of that resentment maybe just fitted with Bond’s resentment (and need for) authority.
Danny Boyle is very good, I’d trust him to do a great job however he decides to approach it.
Interesting that someone's political views are raised as to whether they can make a good film.
Would the OP object to surgery from a Liberal Democrat voting surgeon?
I'll be interested to see what Danny Boyle can do with Bond (if indeed he does direct) as, as someone's already said, he's shown he can manage a variety of genres very well.
127 Hours was tense, Shallow Grave funny, Trainspotting...errrr...., 28 Days Later a good horror film, Slumdog Millionaire is a good, well constructed film (with some menace at times)...
I can't see him making a complete pig's ear of a Bond film personally.
M.
I didn't question whether he could make a good film, I wondered if he could make this genre of film. Ken Loach is an outstanding director, but I wouldn't be keen on him directing it either, or Michael Mann directing a film about homeless refugees for that matter.
To adapt your rather silly analogy; I would object to surgery on my heart from an eye surgeon, no matter how good he was.
To adapt your rather flimsy adaption, you didn't say "He's never made an action film, so I'm not sure he can do this". You (only) made the point about his political leanings...
As I pointed out, Boyle has shown himself to be very adaptable to different genres, so I'm hopeful.
Whether he can make a great Bond film remains to be seen, but you're rewriting history here...
M.
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Looked at the pic of Daniel Craig standing next to Barbara Broccoli and thought - he's getting a bit too old for Bond now. Then I realised it was taken 7 years ago.
I'm going through all of the books in order. Half way through Dr No at the moment; from a time when men-were-men and women were treated like women :-)I’m re-reading this at the moment, for about the 15th time.
Daniel Craig did really well I think, and some of that resentment maybe just fitted with Bond’s resentment (and need for) authority.
Danny Boyle is very good, I’d trust him to do a great job however he decides to approach it.
Very good.
Yes, as in outside the orbit of Pluto.
Chris Hemsworth. Has a decent English accent.
Andy - that's not how Fleming's Bond came across in the books (which I read many years ago). The character wasn't an unemotional killer or someone who could kill without batting an eyelid. He was a spy who only killed when he had to. Frequently in the novels he got the xxxx kicked out of him, tortured (Casino Royale), etc. In The Man With The Golden Gun he couldn't kill in cold blood in the final showdown (I won't spoil it for those who haven't read the book).
I actually think that Timothy Dalton was the closest actor to Fleming's character of Bond, followed by George Lazenby (my fav was Connery though).
Its the reason that he is quite dead pan that would make him perfect for Bond. It's certainly not a part that requires a Laurence Oliver lovey type actor (all shouty and arm waving). Hence why Timmy was so bad and Sean/Roger so perfect
Bond needs to be emotional dead, calm in a crisis, a bit of a looker/charmer and have a sense of humour and above all not to take it to seriously.
IMHO of course
If Boyle follows his own advice here it should be cracking. The very fact that he had Johnny Lee millers sick boy alluding to a very insightful concept and take on connerys bond shows to me that it may be very gritty and sincere to the books. I personally loved sick boys overview of Connery and bond . Maybe miller could play bond ?
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Mr.B will himself be directed by a HUGE box office hit........simply MONEY.
I liked Dalton's Bond, I think it's a shame we only saw two films with him and I'd agree that Lazenby was trying to go the same way, he just couldn't act to save his life!
Dalton's a 'proper actor' (perhaps the best to play Bond?), he's also great in Hot Fuzz!
Connery, though, is 'my' Bond!
M
Boyle has made some fine films, no doubt.
I just hope he has strong control over this and isn't overpowered by the studio. A bit sick of the Bond style over the past 12 years. Po-faced, dull and unrealistic. Rare to combine all of those. Clive Owen was a missed chance. Craig's performances have been very un-entertaining.
Goldeneye was the last one that was above average.
I'm firmly in the Dalton camp, certainly the most plausible.I liked Dalton's Bond, I think it's a shame we only saw two films with him and I'd agree that Lazenby was trying to go the same way, he just couldn't act to save his life!
Dalton's a 'proper actor' (perhaps the best to play Bond?), he's also great in Hot Fuzz!
Connery, though, is 'my' Bond!
M
Did we watch the same film?
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
Clive Owen as Bond, oh if only that had happened.
So many memorable moments: the dam swallow dive, perhaps my favourite Bond stunt of all; the Aston v Ferrari mountain race; the fight with 006; the banter with Joe Don Baker.
2 stunning and entertaining female characters played by the devilish Famke Jansen and the righteous Isabella Scorupco.
A worthy and physically equal villain.
A great turn by Robbie Coltrane as the Russian gangster with his dodgy moll played by a young Minnie Driver.
A cool Omega laser weapon.
A great theme belted out by TT.
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Wrt the “best” Bond, I think it depends who you grew up with. The later Roger Moore films were the first I saw at the cinema, and as a kid, the gadgets and sci-fi themes trumped the cheesiness of that era, so I’ve got a bit of a soft spot for Moore (esp TSWLM, LALD and Moonraker). The Connery films were already classics in the late 70s/early 80s, and Timothy Dalton went “dark” decades before Daniel Craig.
For me, the Pierce Brosnan years are the weakest. I’m not sure if it’s Brosnan himself, or the fact that the storylines were pretty crap, but most of those films have aged extremely badly - arguably worse than the Roger Moore years (although I can see how someone who was 10 when Goldeneye came out may feel nostalgic about the Brosnan movies).
I remember seeing the first Brosnan film at the cinema, and there was an atmosphere of delighted relief that the whole operation was back up and running. No recollection of the film whatsoever. Perhaps a tank somewhere?
I do wonder if there's any mileage on redoing the bond book movies but set in the proper era i.e. much more true with the books.
I really think James McAvoy would be a great choice for Bond, and Danny Boyle has worked with him before
Poor Brozzer had crap scripts.
He can play a great dark agent. Check out November Man which was a flop but Brozzer was great in it
Not sure he's got the physicality or menace to be convincing tbh.
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