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    Doesn't it always end-up with the same point; you either accept the conditions and buy, or you don't. It's obvious, so why these endless threads, that go no-where. It makes forum Rolex customers seem petulant and whingy. Don't like, don't buy. End of problem.
    And now people are even moaning that the AD offers to size the bracelet. Of course they offer to size the bracelet, it's part of normal service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Doesn't it always end-up with the same point; you either accept the conditions and buy, or you don't. It's obvious, so why these endless threads, that go no-where. It makes forum Rolex customers seem petulant and whingy. Don't like, don't buy. End of problem.
    And now people are even moaning that the AD offers to size the bracelet. Of course they offer to size the bracelet, it's part of normal service.
    I wasnt moaning

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    Deep sea JC great pick up.

    Enjoy it who cares about the other stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MST View Post
    This is the very latest in a long line of threads that has led to me considering writing a short satirical story entitled "The Theatre of Buying or Enquiring About the Purchase of Any Rolex Watch, Part or Accessory". It's comedic when you phone an AD regarding anything Rolex and the sales assistant puts on an Oscar winning performance, I know that Rolex "specialists" are sent off to Kent for training but more often than not you'd be forgiven for thinking it was RADA!
    Really? Cos it appears to me the biggest drama queens/lovies are the people buying the watches

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    I don't know where this idea came that traders have carte blanche to set any terms they want and if you buy on that basis then you have no redress.

    That is not so. You cannot sign your consumer rights away.

    If a trader sold on line and stated that if you bought you understood that distance selling laws did not apply to that item, do you think he can do that? Well he can't.

    Whatever condition he tries to set it has to comply with consumer legislation, he is in breach otherwise and you cannot sign away your legal rights.

    I think someone needs to lay a complaint with Trading Standards about a possible breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 and quote from Part 1 of Schedule 2 of said Act (which lists probable unfair contract terms) particularly section 20..............



    "20. A term which has the object or effect of excluding or hindering the consumer’s right to take legal action or exercise any other legal remedy, in particular by—

    (b)unduly restricting the evidence available to the consumer",* (* In this case the warranty card and being able to prove you have legal remedy)


    The OP should buy the watch then challenge the store with a threat to refer the matter to Trading Standards if they do not release the warranty card.

    He could say he bought the watch as a gift for someone in Australia and that the warranty card needs to go with it. It will cause him problems in establishing his rights if he doesn't have it, as he can hardly go through the dealership and he wasn't the one who bought the watch in any event.




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    ^ I couldn't agree with you more Mitch!
    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    Really? Cos it appears to me the biggest drama queens/lovies are the people buying the watches
    Clearly the sales assistants are catering to their audience then.

    I just want to be able to have an adult conversation without the bulls**t pretence that usually involves them ooh'ing & ahh'ing like they're at a firework display!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch View Post
    I don't know where this idea came that traders have carte blanche to set any terms they want and if you buy on that basis then you have no redress.

    That is not so. You cannot sign your consumer rights away.

    If a trader sold on line and stated that if you bought you understood that distance selling laws did not apply to that item, do you think he can do that? Well he can't.

    Whatever condition he tries to set it has to comply with consumer legislation, he is in breach otherwise and you cannot sign away your legal rights.

    I think someone needs to lay a complaint with Trading Standards about a possible breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 and quote from Part 1 of Schedule 2 of said Act (which lists probable unfair contract terms) particularly section 20..............



    "20. A term which has the object or effect of excluding or hindering the consumer’s right to take legal action or exercise any other legal remedy, in particular by—

    (b)unduly restricting the evidence available to the consumer",* (* In this case the warranty card and being able to prove you have legal remedy)


    The OP should buy the watch then challenge the store with a threat to refer the matter to Trading Standards if they do not release the warranty card.

    He could say he bought the watch as a gift for someone in Australia and that the warranty card needs to go with it. It will cause him problems in establishing his rights if he doesn't have it, as he can hardly go through the dealership and he wasn't the one who bought the watch in any event.




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    You are right in theory - but I honestly don't think that Trading Standards would be interested in the issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lenlec View Post
    He may have been on about other brands like Pp as well ? Not sure
    Well you can add the gmt batman to the list , that’s for sure


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    Quote Originally Posted by charlies View Post
    Well you can add the gmt batman to the list , that’s for sure
    It's already in the list.

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    If you asked nicely, wouldn't the AD give you the warranty card straight away?

    It seems that Rolex don't insist on this practise, neither do all ADs in the same chain, and it's probably illegal anyway. It's probably just theatrics for the once-in-a-lifetime punters. Therefore if you just asked, insisted even, wouldn't they hand it over?

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    Get the watch, get them to resize it, take all the stickers off of it, ask for your card and if it’s not forthcoming demand your money back and let them have an unstickered watch and a few spare links back in stock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FK77 View Post
    It's already in the list.
    BLNR .🤦🏽*♂️


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    Quote Originally Posted by Motman View Post
    Get the watch, get them to resize it, take all the stickers off of it, ask for your card and if it’s not forthcoming demand your money back and let them have an unstickered watch and a few spare links back in stock!
    If you agreed to the terms, why would the retailer give you the money back?


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    TBH, if I was paying for a watch complete with box, papers and warranty card, thats what I would be expecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henk View Post
    well in that case why did you flip it in the first place?

    I am the only person who has bought a watch then decided to move it on and then wish they had kept it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawbreaker5000 View Post
    I am the only person who has bought a watch then decided to move it on and then wish they had kept it ?
    Nope, been there done that. Not doing it again lol.

    Has the op bought the watch yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadBoyR View Post
    Nope, been there done that. Not doing it again lol.

    Has the op bought the watch yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadBoyR View Post
    Nope, been there done that. Not doing it again lol.

    Has the op bought the watch yet?

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    Spoke to the AD and confirmed I'm taking it as soon as it comes into store, hopefully it'll be on my wrist within the week.

    While all the comments about what to say or do vis a vis the AD keeping the warranty card are interesting, I'm taking a long term view - I am close to getting a watch I have had much trouble finding, I want to keep it long term and I would like to build a relationship with the AD going forward...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_X View Post
    Spoke to the AD and confirmed I'm taking it as soon as it comes into store, hopefully it'll be on my wrist within the week.

    While all the comments about what to say or do vis a vis the AD keeping the warranty card are interesting, I'm taking a long term view - I am close to getting a watch I have had much trouble finding, I want to keep it long term and I would like to build a relationship with the AD going forward...
    Good man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_X View Post
    Spoke to the AD and confirmed I'm taking it as soon as it comes into store, hopefully it'll be on my wrist within the week.

    While all the comments about what to say or do vis a vis the AD keeping the warranty card are interesting, I'm taking a long term view - I am close to getting a watch I have had much trouble finding, I want to keep it long term and I would like to build a relationship with the AD going forward...
    Sounds like a good idea, especially if you plan to keep it.

    However, in all seriousness, what do you hope out of 'building a relationship with the dealer'. Your friends friend presumably did this to get his Daytona and you took great offence from that. I can't understand the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodder View Post
    Sounds like a good idea, especially if you plan to keep it.

    However, in all seriousness, what do you hope out of 'building a relationship with the dealer'. Your friends friend presumably did this to get his Daytona and you took great offence from that. I can't understand the difference.
    Potentially easier access to a future watch I'd be struggling a la BLNR scenario...e.g. I'd love to get a blue SS Skydweller one day

    I was gutted about my mate's mate blatantly using his AD connection to make money flipping where genuine buyers struggle to get hold of watches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_X View Post
    I was gutted about my mate's mate blatantly using his AD connection to make money flipping where genuine buyers struggle to get hold of watches
    Bit rich from you that statement isn't it after your antics of buying and selling between forums..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_X View Post
    Potentially easier access to a future watch I'd be struggling a la BLNR scenario...e.g. I'd love to get a blue SS Skydweller one day

    I was gutted about my mate's mate blatantly using his AD connection to make money flipping where genuine buyers struggle to get hold of watches
    That’s OK Chris. Posting the pic of his watch means that your petty jealousy of your ‘mate’ makes it is unlikely he will get the same advantage again.
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    Has anyone started one of these threads and not ended up buying the watch in question?

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    I’d quite like to ask to see the card and then put it in my pocket . Are they likely to man handle me to retrieve it ?

    I suppose they could call the police to report me for taking my warranty card . Realise that’d be the last purchase I could make there .

    Anyone fancy trying ? I’ve not got the funds or waiting list place to try myself !

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    Just wondered if you collected the watch yet. Have one on order myself so interested to see what people think of them after a long wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Just wondered if you collected the watch yet. Have one on order myself so interested to see what people think of them after a long wait.
    He did, posted a pic on the incoming thread.

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    Glad the op bought it. Personally I wouldn’t have an issue with it. If people are genuine and want to own the watch what difference does 6 months make.

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    Haven't stopped staring at it yet...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuno1 View Post
    Glad the op bought it. Personally I wouldn’t have an issue with it. If people are genuine and want to own the watch what difference does 6 months make.
    12 months actually, but exactly what you said...who cares, I have a brand new BLNR on my wrist and didn't had to pay through the nose (like I was tempted to a couple of times)

    Wondering what Baselworld tomorrow holds - the AD made the point that it could well be the last BLNR they have sold (though I doubt it)...my money is on a white gold GMT coke bezel with jubilee strap - what would that be? A 116713 LNRO?

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    Nice one, looks stunning. Glad you bought it and hope you enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_X View Post
    Haven't stopped staring at it yet...

    Looks great. I loved it and then went off it but love it again!

    Enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_X View Post
    Haven't stopped staring at it yet...
    Congratulations! I managed to get hairlines on the PCLs early on which was a good thing IMHO. It was best to stop worrying about it as it is unavoidable.

    Is that a (yours?) Sub ND in the first 2 pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FK77 View Post
    Congratulations! I managed to get hairlines on the PCLs early on which was a good thing IMHO. It was best to stop worrying about it as it is unavoidable.

    Is that a (yours?) Sub ND in the first 2 pictures?
    Yes, it's actually a classic SD.16600 with drilled lug holes. It was my daily wearer but going to be wearing the blnr for a while now so will pop the SD into the safe and take it from there...

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