Reply With Quote. When I first discovered them, upon joining this forum, I must say I thought the same. I really didn't see the attraction. Now, though, ok couldn't have a more contrasting opinion. I love the things!Originally Posted by mhurley
Does any one else find them plain bordering on ugly? Obviously great innards but visually does nothing for me.
Horses for courses I guess
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. When I first discovered them, upon joining this forum, I must say I thought the same. I really didn't see the attraction. Now, though, ok couldn't have a more contrasting opinion. I love the things!
The plain 5711 does sweet FA for me but other variants are just sublime IMHO
JFO please.
Yes, I am perplexed as to why anyone would look at one and think it looks nice. On every PP thread there'll be someone saying 'gorgeous', 'stunning' or 'beautiful' and I can't help wonder what they're looking at that I'm not. Movements and quality of workmanship, absolutely. Design of watch? Erm...
Having said that I recently saw a car journalist describe a new Volvo as 'stunning'. He was talking about the design. It looked to me like someone was throwing lots of details at it to disguise a rather dull shape.
"A man of little significance"
Eh, no ...thanks newbie for your contribution.
Didn’t we have almost the exact same question last month?
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It's a fair enough question. I meet up with a bunch of TZers on a regular basis and none of us can work out what people see in them.
"A man of little significance"
Agree, I'm completely mystified by much of the PP and AP ranges. To my eyes the Nautilus looks like a relic from the '70s.
But, as you say, horses for courses. There's no right or wrong, just personal taste.
I personally find the AP Royal Oak a more attractive watch, doesn't stop me wishing I had bought a nautilus at £14k.
I do know if I had ,I would have sold it by now and probably made a loss too.
Not to good at the investment side of this game !
They are an acquired taste. A bit like strawberries.
Perfect for the man who wears Sex Panther. They've done studies, you know.
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Well the prices have already started another correction, so I’m assuming the price rise was affective 1 March?
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They tell the time. Apart from that I have no attraction.
Poor form... they've asked a reasonable question... feel free to disagree, but, not to mock
Feel free to have a different opinion to me though
OP... I think they’re ok... but, they don’t wow me...
I went back and forth on them. I liked them at first sight, then it became a bit plain but am now back in the "i want" camp.
I wonder if it had a less prestigious name on the dial would people still fawn over them?
It is certainly a watch which carries a lot of wealth status attachment and that can sometimes gloss over the looks. Just ask any man with the gorgeous women half his age on their arm.
Skyman and MFB, once had small counts and now they mock the new members with once similar small counts but obviously their mocking is insecurity caused by the other small thing in there lives. Maybe they will grow up one day to be a real man.
I like the look of Genta designed or inspired cases and have done for about ten years, so yes I like the Nautilus. Will I ever own a Nautilus? Highly unlikely.
Not really.It is certainly a watch which carries a lot of wealth status attachment and that can sometimes gloss over the looks. Just ask any man with the gorgeous women half his age on their arm.
Skyman and MFB, once had small counts and now they mock the new members with once similar small counts but obviously their mocking is insecurity caused by the other small thing in there lives. Maybe they will grow up one day to be a real man.
Some newer members, and some older for that matter, can’t carry out a search. It’s a bit like not being able to hold your tongue - or maybe torrettes.
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...ght=Patek+ugly
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The sheer clarity of the dial is quite something, few watches are quite so easy to read. What's more, as a design it is simple and elegant. Nothing flashy or 'bling.' But it also, to me anyway, feels just slightly delicate and lacking in toughness.
I had one and was content to sell it. But it's a very fine design and truly elegant. Not easy to dismiss.
Perhaps not to the same extent Andy, but that prestige has been earned.
Andy
Wanted - Damasko DC57
Exactly, what's wrong with using the search function, apart from the fact perhaps that it does little for the post count.
Andy
Wanted - Damasko DC57
I am glad you said that, I am not alone in thinking the same.
There are nautili and nautili. The movements may be equally sublime but externally the 5712 is an asymmetrical mess with nothing aesthetically pleasing whatsoever whilst the Travel Time is magnificent and flawless. YMMV
Thanks for that ....don't mention my small counts.It is certainly a watch which carries a lot of wealth status attachment and that can sometimes gloss over the looks. Just ask any man with the gorgeous women half his age on their arm.
Skyman and MFB, once had small counts and now they mock the new members with once similar small counts but obviously their mocking is insecurity caused by the other small thing in there lives. Maybe they will grow up one day to be a real man.
I would love a woman half my age !
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I think its one of those watches where it helps to see one in the flesh and try it on to make a full judgement. I don't see it as a marmite watch like a U boat or Corum bubble watch.
I'm on the fence myself, I'd like to have the available funds to buy one, try it for a while and then sell it on if I didn't bond with it but thats not going to happen.
You answered your own question, horses for courses.
I love the simplicity of the 5711, and the beauty of the 5726. I'm not a fan of the others in the Nautilus range. [I quite agree, I love the Travel Time ! ]
nope
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You keeping your 5990?
I don’t get them either but when I first looked at Panerai I didn’t like them now love them .
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I really like the simple 5711, and would happily wear one for sure. The price though is eye watering..can buy a whole new collection of expensive watches for the price of one..so safe to say it’s out of my league!
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I'd be forever thinking of the new Discovery's rear number plate whenever I looked at that writing and wondering when the dial at the top left is going to sink down to join the other two.nope
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"A man of little significance"
Genta was a nice sensible chap, the Polerouter is lovely, who possibly took too many drugs at the end of the 1960s. Can’t say I like what happened next at all.
Luckily for my wallet, my taste is not tickled by any of the "hublot-nauts" from PP, or, come to that, the "octonauts" from AP.
It's a good thing we are all different
It’s a watch that never really caught my eye until I read more about it on forums. Now I think it’s very nice. Clearly iconic. Odd that no-one seems bothered by the integrated bracelet.
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I think that is one of the attractions. When I have had watches with integrated bracelets in the past, they always feel well put together and a proper part of the watch design
Not for me either
Love them. I think the case looks much better in the flesh. I’d love to own one one day .
I do like it, but prefer the AP extra thin with the Blue dial. Similar watches, same designer, but I would give the AP the nod.
It’s my favourite of the Genta lot, and the 5711 with blue dial is a real classic. Don’t like the more complicated ones though; I think they look quite awkward.
I like them a lot
If you don't, buy something else.
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Having tried both on, the AP 15202 always felt more 'special'. Can't deny though that the Nautilus is a very, very comfortable watch. Both are insanely expensive regardless for a steel watch!
I'm interested to read that I'm not alone in not enjoying their aesthetics. The look as if they belong in the 70s to me. It's all academic of course, as they're well above what I'd pay for a watch.
David
Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations
The thing with the 5711 it was designed as a three hander and anything else shoved on to the dial looks like an afterthought. Years ago before I discovered watch forums, I very nearly bought a 5711R but was persuaded not to buy on advice from an elderly guy in the shop. I was and am still attracted to the 5711 especially the white/silver dial but when it came down to getting a new watch I bought a Yacht-Master instead.
If you're asking whats so special about them OP, try one on. If you like thin watches you'll start to appreciate it. But don't believe all this BS people when people say "...oooh, you must see a Patek under a loupe to appreciate them..." who the hell looks at a watch under a loupe every day? It's on the wrist, tells the time and thats it. Ultimately it's a luxury object that makes the wearer feel warm and gooey inside knowing it's expensive. As some justifiably argue, if any other name was on the dial, the 5711 would go unnoticed.
Surely not...
https://m.ebay.com/itm/202124912905
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I don’t have any problem with them. In fact I believe they are great looking pieces and applaud Patek for sticking to this design. On the other hand, I don’t get the attraction to AP, save the ultra thin I just don’t feel them if much at all. I know they are both Genta spin offs.
My caveat with these is mostly their seemingly delicate movements and sky high servicing prices.
Comparatively light servicing on a 3 hander.
5k Rolex - £500
20k Patek - under £1000
Plus the Patek boutique included my first service for free, and gave a few other goodies with my purchase.
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To secure that pretty young thing, just get a Nautilus on your wrist or go for a bit of full on Rolex flash, make sure it is nicely visible to all and before you can say Daytona, one young Russian bride!
The bracelet on the PP always reminds me of the Longines conquest models in the early 90’s.
Iconic design. Supremely comfortable and elegant. Maybe one has to be a member of the cognoscenti to appreciate it 😃
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