Reply With Quote25/02/2018
25 February 2018
4 March 2018
Could mean either
Neither
I consider the phrase to be unequivocal, but certain members of my family disagree. Obviously the only way to settle this is to ask TZ-UK.
For reference, today is 19 February.
Last edited by Mr Curta; 19th February 2018 at 19:54.
25/02/2018
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
Hmm... The one next week, i.e. 4th? Otherwise I'd say "this Sunday" to refer to the one on the 25th.
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Classic problem, and one that's only resolved by people specifying the actual date.
What does “next” mean? To me it means the next coming Sunday, which would be the 25th. When people are in a queue and somebody shouts “next” do you miss a person?
The week starts on Sunday so the next week refers to 25/02
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
Simple, it is the 'next ' Sunday. Therefore in this case the 25th.
Should you think differently go admonish yourself.
Though Google would suggest otherwise
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
Sunday 25th
Conversations up and down the land go like this:
"Do you want to come over next Sunday?"
"Do you mean this Sunday?"
"No. Next Sunday."
"So, the 4th?"
"Yes."
The Google says it's the 25th
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+date+is+next+Sunday
But then tomorrow is 'next Tuesday', because it's the next coming Tuesday.
Next Sunday is the 25th on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday but will change to the 4th on Thursday!
It’s a strange one because next Sunday is also this Sunday! I do often find myself reiterating what I mean with this type of thing just to be sure.
I sort of agree - there's a period of time before a certain date where it's no longer 'next Xday' and becomes 'this Xday'. But it seems everyone has a different idea of just how long that time period is.
This.
It’s funny that this thread came up, as we’ve had just this confusion at work last week.
To me, “next Sunday” means 25/2, but I think the problem is that to some 25/2 is “this coming Sunday” so the one after is “next Sunday” ie the next Sunday after the coming one.
The former seems more logical, but people and language aren't particularly logical, and since there’s no standard definition, it’s best just specifying dates.
For me;
This Sunday Coming = Next Sunday.
The Sunday after = Sunday Week.
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For me;
This Sunday Coming = Next Sunday.
The Sunday after = Sunday Week.
I'm no grammar teacher, but there is no such thing as "this Sunday".
Sunday is a day, it is either today, last Sunday, or next Sunday.
However, if 25/2 is “this Sunday”, then could people be forgiven for calling 4/3 “next Sunday”?
(I agree though).
25/2/19
Fas est ab hoste doceri
A Monday? That's another take on it, I suppose
There is.
It's the 25th.
Do keep up.
The poll result is conclusive
It should be asked again each day until the 25th Feb, to see when the magic cut off of 'next' isThe poll result is conclusive
It depends on what you’re missing out in everyday speech.
”this Sunday” = this (coming) Sunday - fairly unambiguous
“next Sunday” = (the) next Sunday (after the coming one) or (the) next Sunday (of the current week)
I still think the the first is more accurate, but the second isn’t complete nonsense.
(I would say it doesn’t matter, but as I said, we had a balls up at work because of this ambiguity).
My colleague often says 'see you next Tuesday', but he means neither the first nor the second Tuesday that comes along.
Similar cock-up relating to using the time '12' as a deadline. No indication given as to whether it was AM, PM or context to suggest it was from the 24hr clock. No one thought to check whether it was midnight or noon
Personally don’t understand how there is any ambiguity on this. Next means next. Not the one after next. That is why the term Sunday week is used if this is what you want to refer to.
😂😂😂
The same ambiguity exists in French. And it really depends on the individuals, as some people will not use ‘ce dimanche’ (this Sunday) and therefore will call the 25th ‘dimanche prochain’, and others will, pushing back next Sunday by one week.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Your logic is fine.
But the reason there is a confusion is because the phrase 'this Sunday' is in common usage.
You can ignore it or adopt it.
I've done the latter as it saves me explaining myself every time. As you've had to do above.
I would say 25 February - as it is "the next Sunday". However as you have asked for "next Sunday" not "the next Sunday" I think there is an argument for it being 4 March, with 25 February being "this Sunday".
To avoid confusion if I wanted to meet someone on the next day of the week that was a Sunday I would just say "see you on Sunday"!
Good man
More common sense and "true English", rather than colloquialism.
This is the best answer on this thread.
No one would say "Next Sunday" to mean tomorrow on a Saturday, but the further back in the week you go the more the words have a double meaning, so on a Monday "next Sunday" is really ambiguous.
I agree with you on accepting that some people are confused and I no longer take for granted that everyone understands the correct term. “This Sunday” is really short for “This coming Sunday” and I see no reason for it not to co exist. It probably has as much to do with language evolution too, as over the last 30 something years I have noticed an increase in this confusion.
Should we start discussing the names of the meals in a day?
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Next Sunday refers to March 4th.
This Sunday refers to February 25th.
Unless,of,course,you are enough days away for "next Sunday" to refer to the coming Sunday in which case "next Sunday" is February 25th,as is "this Sunday".
But if you said it this Friday then "this Sunday" would refer to February 25th and "next Sunday" to March 4th. But does "this Friday" refer to this Friday or next Friday?
Simple really.
What is true English?
I think that could get really heated. This has been surprisingly convivial so far, but there's still scope for it to degenerate.
Exbleedinactly - we could really get lost on this one!
Yesss, this ^^^
Ba da boom, tish…!
No! That would be "this coming Sunday". Calendar week is Sunday to Monday so we've already had "this Sunday", therefore next Sunday is 25 Feb
Ok.
First one is breakfast, second is lunch.
So far so good...
There’s a really simple way of avoiding all doubt, especially if you’re not sure of the actual date – the phrase is “on Sunday”!
Absolutely no way anyone isn’t capable of grasping that the Sunday being referenced is the one at the end of the current week.
Problemo solvedo… said by no-one who speaks proper Spanish.
You say that... but at school my daughter has dinner at lunch time.
Ok.
First one is breakfast, second is lunch.
So far so good...
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Time for a letter to the governors.
And go up North here, and dinner is lunch too, then tea for the evening meal.
When was the last time you had lunch?
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