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    Is this a genuine Rolex or aftermarket bezel insert?

    Bought a few years back as a spare.

    Did a fair amount of homework at the time but have always been slightly unsure if it is a genuine Rolex item.

    Did I make a good or bad call on this?




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    The bezel insert below was purchased from RSC in February 2017 and looks different to yours. However unfortunately I don't know if that is conclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Norman View Post
    Bought a few years back as a spare.

    Did a fair amount of homework at the time but have always been slightly unsure if it is a genuine Rolex item.

    Did I make a good or bad call on this?



    Think it Is ok rolex changed the fonts over the yrs looks like a 90s sapphire Pepsi insert for 16700 and 16710

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    Sorry, doesn't look right to me. Those 2's look hooked.

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    On the 18 the bottom of the 1 is well short of the bottom of the 8 ... doesn't look right to me but I'm no expert.

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    Lee Fowler is probably your man for this question.

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    top loop of all the twos stands out as being overly large, and therefore incorrect.
    To me, that is. Although I am not totally proficient on these.

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    Last edited by sweets; 20th January 2018 at 18:17. Reason: spelink

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    Check where the blue finishes on the '8' both inserts are different here-

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    Have an original owner 16700 and insert looks exactly like this one I'll try dig a pic up

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    Id say not geniune. Looks like a 'hooked' 2 to me.

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    Looks same as this one ?
    Or maybe I need to go get me eyes tested :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanski View Post


    Looks same as this one ?
    Or maybe I need to go get me eyes tested :-)
    Not the same. Look at the 18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Norman View Post
    Bought a few years back as a spare.

    Did a fair amount of homework at the time but have always been slightly unsure if it is a genuine Rolex item.

    Did I make a good or bad call on this?
    As others have said, it has a hooked '2'. Aftermarket I'm afraid.

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    Aftermarket or not, its surely for a plexi model GMT.

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    Looks aftermarket...
    Genuine rolex ones have a step on the back for better fitment i believe

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    Yup see it now :)

    Learn something new everyday

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    Quote Originally Posted by 744ER View Post
    Aftermarket or not, its surely for a plexi model GMT.
    OP was asking on whether insert was genuine. In the light of the hooked 2 safe to say not original rolex insert.

    See this post on aftermarket inserts and hooked 2's

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipsofacto View Post
    OP was asking on whether insert was genuine. In the light of the hooked 2 safe to say not original rolex insert.

    See this post on aftermarket inserts and hooked 2's
    Yes i have no opinion on that, just saw people comparing it to their sapphire models which use a completely different insert...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 744ER View Post
    Yes i have no opinion on that, just saw people comparing it to their sapphire models which use a completely different insert...
    My bad. Missed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanski View Post


    Looks same as this one ?
    Or maybe I need to go get me eyes tested :-)
    That's no like you to get it wrong al

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    I would say it's a 16750 (blue back) rather than 1675 (which typically) were red.

    As for whether its pucker or not, I suggest looking first at a 16750.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubymac View Post
    That's no like you to get it wrong al
    Lol it's sat and I was drinking last night :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverD View Post
    Sorry, doesn't look right to me. Those 2's look hooked.
    bang on the money

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    No that is not right.

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    My first thought was the two 4s looked different. I'm terrible at these things normally but this one has been fun to try see what people are looking at

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    Another comparison pic, U Series 16710.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverD View Post
    Sorry, doesn't look right to me. Those 2's look hooked.
    Agreed. The 2's are usually a giveaway on non-Rolex inserts.

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    OK so it looks like I was duped and I thought I had done my homework.

    So a dent to my pride but fortunately not my wallet as I only paid £13 for it.

    Thanks guys for all the responses and yes as deduced it was for a plexi 16750.

    Anyone have a spare they are not using?

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    Rolex St James will fit one for £30-40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    Rolex St James will fit one for £30-40.
    Thanks for the tip and are they really that cheap?

    Problem is I just want the insert as a spare and I don't think they will supply a bezel insert unless they fit it.

    I know I could take mine out before going there but it is a valuable insert and I don't want to damage it.


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    They’ll swap it and give you your old one back for £55.

    Out of curiosity, why do you need a spare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    They’ll swap it and give you your old one back for £55.

    Out of curiosity, why do you need a spare?
    OK thanks and I just want to have a standard red/blue insert in my box as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petewon View Post
    Id say not geniune. Looks like a 'hooked' 2 to me.
    I am wearing a 16710 with a genuine Rolex bezel. I know this because the bezel (coke) was bought from an AD.

    I have compared it and yes you are correct, the 2 in the pic looks more hooked than mine.

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    100% aftermarket and if you want a spare I have some available but you will not be able to purchase one outright from Rolex UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam1288 View Post
    Looks aftermarket...
    Genuine rolex ones have a step on the back for better fitment i believe
    Only on sapphire crystal inserts.

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    Just out of interest............comments made on the way the red joins the blue between the 1 and the 8 of 18.

    The first pics is from a 1984 Rolex catalogue and the second one from a 1986 Rolex catalogue.

    Apologies for poor pics but I hope you can see the difference.






    Also the insert below is described as genuine Rolex but aren't these hooked 2s?

    Last edited by Jack Norman; 23rd February 2018 at 16:19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Norman View Post
    Just out of interest............comments made on the way the red joins the blue between the 1 and the 8 of 18.

    The first pics is from a 1984 Rolex catalogue and the second one from a 1986 Rolex catalogue.

    Apologies for poor pics but I hope you can see the difference.






    Also the insert below is described as genuine Rolex but aren't these hooked 2s?

    Pics are not great but is one a plexi and one a sapphire model?? The bottom insert pic does not have hooked 2's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leefowler View Post
    Pics are not great but is one a plexi and one a sapphire model?? The bottom insert pic does not have hooked 2's.
    Both are 16750s first is matt dial second is gloss.

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