Got one in AD by me
Pm me
Dealer wants to hold warranty card for 6 months though....
Last edited by Sweepinghand; 20th January 2018 at 13:52.
Are you in the UK ?
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Can someone explain to me the thing about the warranty card? Is this to stop a flipper buying it to resell?
They asked me about loyalty etc
She said could I introduce clients etc
I said I know of many many watch lovers
She told me it’s a new thing from Rolex
I advised that it’s clearly at discretion as i had bought SS Rolex sport model recently in another AD with no mention
I told her I’d have it until the warranty card thing
Just crazy
What diff does it make to the seller if they have another client who wants to buy the odd watch?
Can introduce others etc
I actually gave a heads up on here for a hill that a guy on here bought from there too with no issues
It’s a pity - plus I’m confident they had other ss sport and exotica
“We don’t put them in the window....”
Non date subs aren’t that difficult to get hold of....... I asked 2 local AD’s if they could get me one, and 2 weeks later both replied that they had one for me...
Neither AD wanted to hold onto documentation....
Up their own a-holes if you ask me.
Much as I disagree with the principle of withholding warranty cards etc. I think potential buyers of these watches are well advised to just accept it if they really want the watch.......principles are sweet but the watch you want on your wrist is sweeter.
I’ve got no respect for the folks who go out to buy these watches with the sole intention of selling for a profit. If I’d set my mind to it I could’ve cashed in on the current supply/ demand situation, I have the time to do the legwork, could make the contacts, and I could find the funds to buy these watches when offered...........but it’s really not for me. Same with the Speedy Tuesday crapshoot.
Sorry Paul, I agree with a lot of what you say generally but that second para is a little naive. Just because watches are your hobby doesn’t make them sacrosanct. Most of the watches we discuss on here are grossly non-essential items and as such they are a commodity.
On the subject of warranty cards, are buyers being asked by the ADs to sign anything I wonder to consent to have some of their property retained?
Last edited by gcleminson; 20th January 2018 at 22:28.
What verbal contract are you referring to? I’ve seen a lot of input on this subject and I’ve yet to see a definitive answer. If inclined to purchase from an AD and this became an issue, I might offer in the course of the conversation that I don’t accept their right to retain what becomes my property after the sale even if I continue with the purchase. A contact - written or verbal - is an agreement, no?
Are you certain this would be upheld? Given I’m not knowledgeable in this field I don’t have a huge amount further to offer to the conversation, however if said dealer also told you they had no obligation to provide you a warranty with the watch and you still bought it, would that nullify their responsibilities, regardless of law?
My worry would be them losing the papers. If they guarantee full refund in that event then fine.
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Is the warranty card issue only applicable to certain watches ? I just got myself a 214270 from my local AD, walked out with the whole package. It was the only sports model they had in stock having said that.
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And they have no legal right to do this. I buy a watch, I expect everything to be included. I might lose my job 4 weeks after the purchase and need to sell it. The property is mine and I can demand the warranty card back from the AD as they have no legal right to withhold it. Despite verbally agreeing to their terms, I doubt they are enforceable in law.
It would be an interesting test case in court.
This was my point to Mr.Kingstepper. He seemed to be certain (please correct me if I'm wrong) that they DO have a legal right, based on it being a condition of their sale; and if you go ahead with the purchase you're accepting that from a legal standpoint. I myself am less certain this is true, although have already acknowledged this is not my area of expertise. A little like Amazon changing their Ts & C's to say that they're no longer adhering to the distance selling refund guarantee (or whatever it's known as). If you go ahead and purchase an item from them does that over-rule the actual law?
As you say it would be interesting to see this tested.
Wow. If that was meant for me I'd love you to expand.
Last edited by gcleminson; 21st January 2018 at 13:14. Reason: typo
Definitely not you; it was for one of our resident Del Boy scroungers. ;)
I understand why withholding cards is done and don't particularly resent it.
Rolex monitor the greys and used dealers. If they can track "hot" models on these sites back to the originating AD then they get hellfire and fury from switzerland on the phone. Repeated episodes and it becomes a threat to AD status so I can understand why they go to some odd lengths to try and reduce it.
If you intend to keep the watch it's an inconvenience but a bit of a first world one tbh. If you intend to flip for profit then you'd have to wait 6 months and potentially the market will have cooled which may have you thinking twice next time after half a year of tied up capital that you can't do anything with. Its a deterrent.
Either the ADs will try and stem the flow or Rolex will, and you can guarantee that Rolex method will probably be more painful to collectors/flippers because they can cut supply at source. No peeing about with cards.
I understand the predicament Rolex has but that is an issue for Rolex, not the individual who has bought it. Remember as well Rolex has deliberatley set a policy of controlling the supply of certain watches, therefore manipulating the demand for them, which in turn has an affect on the market value of the product being sold, new/grey or 2nd hand. So this is an issue of Rolex's own making, you can hardly blame individuals who may seek other avenues to secure the watch they want.
Last edited by zippy; 21st January 2018 at 13:17.
When I got my 114060 in NL - I got everything including a 3% discount. Must be a UK thing.
Personally I would expect everything - tags, booklet, boxs, sales receipt and warranty card.
Perhaps you should offer to only pay 90% of the price and the remaining 10% on delivery of the warranty card. See how they like it
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