Another steinhart teaser - not a homage?

**RustyBin5** · 17th January 2018, 13:45

Can't tell much from their latest teaser other than it looks like it has an internal (fixed?) 24 hr indicator and possibly bead blasted or titanium case? Can't think of anything it's a homage of - am curious about this one

Can see the numbers causing a little confusion the same way the 24 hr markers cause it to some on the vintage McQueen gmt

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**jdm180** · 17th January 2018, 13:56

steinhart ... Making something that isn't a homage ? There must be something similar looking somewhere lol

**RustyBin5** · 17th January 2018, 13:59

🤣it's not ALWAYS homage they do

, just NEARLY always

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**Papa Hotel** · 17th January 2018, 14:07

I'm so over Steinhart, they just hold no interest anymore. I've had quite a few and they ARE brilliant quality, there are no real competitors in terms of Swiss-made mechanical watches of the quality for the price.

The one good stab they made at an original design, the Ocean 2, they ruined the thing with the mk2 version. The rest of the original designs are, without exception, f**king horrendous. Actually, I suppose there's the Ocean Titanium and Ocean Bronze which may not be direct homages like the Ocean 1 but could most kindly be called derivative at best.

Is Steinhart relevant?

**RustyBin5** · 17th January 2018, 15:21

Originally Posted by Papa Hotel

I'm so over Steinhart, they just hold no interest anymore. I've had quite a few and they ARE brilliant quality, there are no real competitors in terms of Swiss-made mechanical watches of the quality for the price.

The one good stab they made at an original design, the Ocean 2, they ruined the thing with the mk2 version. The rest of the original designs are, without exception, f**king horrendous. Actually, I suppose there's the Ocean Titanium and Ocean Bronze which may not be direct homages like the Ocean 1 but could most kindly be called derivative at best.

Is Steinhart relevant?

Think the ocean 2 was a loose homage to the IWC aquatimer - could be wrong.

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**Papa Hotel** · 17th January 2018, 15:25

Originally Posted by RustyBin5

Think the ocean 2 was a loose homage to the IWC aquatimer - could be wrong.

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Yeah, I can see that, there are similarities but it's a long way from the likes of the Ocean 1 and Submariner.

**RustyBin5** · 17th January 2018, 15:35

Originally Posted by Papa Hotel

Yeah, I can see that, there are similarities but it's a long way from the likes of the Ocean 1 and Submariner.

Agreed - hence loose. Must say of all my watches the Black Sea would one I would find very hard to sell. But re your points, are they relevant? Well I think they have filled the price / quality niche and are therefore relevant to a portion of watch wearing society. Of course they are completely irrelevant to others. Given that you've owned many of them in the past, they were prob relevant to your journey in the hobby, albeit you now find them irrelevant.

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**Redwolf** · 17th January 2018, 16:02

I’m really considering the gmt vintage pictured above, I saw a review online that looked decent. I need a gmt in the collection and was/am torn between that and the squale tropical ceramic.

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**fierbois16** · 17th January 2018, 18:09

Originally Posted by RustyBin5

藍it's not ALWAYS homage they do

, just NEARLY always

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I've not seen this before, lovely. I cant see it on the steinhart site so I guessing its no longer available or a limited run?

**Chinnock** · 17th January 2018, 18:44

Originally Posted by Papa Hotel

I'm so over Steinhart, they just hold no interest anymore. I've had quite a few and they ARE brilliant quality, there are no real competitors in terms of Swiss-made mechanical watches of the quality for the price.

The one good stab they made at an original design, the Ocean 2, they ruined the thing with the mk2 version. The rest of the original designs are, without exception, f**king horrendous. Actually, I suppose there's the Ocean Titanium and Ocean Bronze which may not be direct homages like the Ocean 1 but could most kindly be called derivative at best.

Is Steinhart relevant?

They hold a perfect niche for those who want reliability and excellent build quality without paying stupid prices, much like our very own Timefactors.

**RustyBin5** · 17th January 2018, 21:21

Originally Posted by fierbois16

I've not seen this before, lovely. I cant see it on the steinhart site so I guessing its no longer available or a limited run?

Was a limited edit in2011

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**RustyBin5** · 17th January 2018, 21:24

Originally Posted by Redwolf

I’m really considering the gmt vintage pictured above, I saw a review online that looked decent. I need a gmt in the collection and was/am torn between that and the squale tropical ceramic.

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The vintage GMT is nice. Comes in various editions some with faux vintage lume some with white. It's very different in styling from most watches. The Squale tropic is different only in its bezel colour / I considered one but the kind of dull grey dead flesh half of the bezel was the turn off for me

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**fierbois16** · 17th January 2018, 22:10

Originally Posted by RustyBin5

Was a limited edit in2011

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Different to much of there current offerings would like to see this return make a return. What's the case diameter?
(apologies for thread hijack)

**Redwolf** · 17th January 2018, 22:17

Originally Posted by RustyBin5

The vintage GMT is nice. Comes in various editions some with faux vintage lume some with white. It's very different in styling from most watches. The Squale tropic is different only in its bezel colour / I considered one but the kind of dull grey dead flesh half of the bezel was the turn off for me

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Thanks for that , actually was leaning more to the Steinhart. Shame there’s nowhere I can go and try one really?

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**RustyBin5** · 18th January 2018, 00:28

Originally Posted by fierbois16

Different to much of there current offerings would like to see this return make a return. What's the case diameter?
(apologies for thread hijack)

42mm - it's same case as an ocean1

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**RustyBin5** · 18th January 2018, 00:30

Originally Posted by Redwolf

Thanks for that , actually was leaning more to the Steinhart. Shame there’s nowhere I can go and try one really?

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Chronomaster are uk distributors. Dunno if they allow trying on? Never considered it

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**PJ S** · 18th January 2018, 01:34

Originally Posted by fierbois16

I've not seen this before, lovely. I cant see it on the steinhart site so I guessing its no longer available or a limited run?

You just missed out on one – https://ebay.co.uk/itm/Steinhart-Bla...-/173033047577

**RustyBin5** · 18th January 2018, 01:38

Originally Posted by PJ S

You just missed out on one – https://ebay.co.uk/itm/Steinhart-Bla...-/173033047577

Went to £790 before he ended the listing that one - if you see one grab it

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**PJ S** · 18th January 2018, 01:43

Thanks, but GMT feature ruins it, for me. Good to know, but suspect he got offered a deal outside of eBay, so saving on fees.

**Broussard** · 18th January 2018, 08:37

NAV B Chrono 47 with GMT hand? Or Premium version? Pretty sure that hand (and markers) are in current usage.

**RustyBin5** · 18th January 2018, 08:46

It looks to be Nav B DNA, and gmt - I doubt they would do chrono gmt but yes it would be a gmt titanium Nav B in 44 - that's my guess

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**Ventura** · 18th January 2018, 08:50

Maybe a dual crown watch, inner rotating bezel.

**vinstink** · 18th January 2018, 12:08

https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/f...m_term=Details

**bond** · 18th January 2018, 12:14

Originally Posted by Chinnock

They hold a perfect niche for those who want reliability and excellent build quality without paying stupid prices, much like our very own Timefactors.

I agree here ,the only thing they are guilty of are some design cues which most micro -expanding or established -brands are guilty of . No big deal . As said value for money for a starter into horology

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**TaketheCannoli** · 18th January 2018, 12:14

I really like that although it would be better without the date window.

**bond** · 18th January 2018, 12:15

Originally Posted by RustyBin5

Chronomaster are uk distributors. Dunno if they allow trying on? Never considered it

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I’ve heard if you travel to the chronomaster base in Bolton , Neil the owner will let you try on before you buy . I’ve intended to go for ages

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**sweets** · 18th January 2018, 12:26

Looks very nice, I like it.
I agree that the date window is a poorly placed afterthought, much better to have a properly sized (square) window at 6 rather than this somewhat undersized round one at 3, ruining the symmetry.

I would have gone for a single stem 24-hr hand too, a little more traditional. This twin-stem version seems a little bit modern to me, but that again is just personal.

Dave

**Redwolf** · 18th January 2018, 12:27

Originally Posted by bond

I’ve heard if you travel to the chronomaster base in Bolton , Neil the owner will let you try on before you buy . I’ve intended to go for ages

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Bolton’s a fair whack away from me in London. I suppose if I bought one from a dealer I could always send it back if I didn’t like it. Just don’t like to mess people around.

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**RustyBin5** · 18th January 2018, 12:33

It's quite....I dunno......damaskoesque? The bead blasted titanium and dual colour lume. I like it - although the legibility of the GMT hand is questionable. Very good addition to their line and their best Nav variant methinks

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**messym** · 18th January 2018, 12:55

I like it!

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**blackal** · 18th January 2018, 13:01

Originally Posted by RustyBin5

It's quite....I dunno......damaskoesque? The bead blasted titanium and dual colour lume. I like it - although the legibility of the GMT hand is questionable. Very good addition to their line and their best Nav variant methinks

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It certainly takes elements from the Damasko, without being a blatant copy. That is a nice GMT in my book.

**blackal** · 18th January 2018, 13:04

This model really appeals to me. Not sure if it is a direct copy of a Nomos or if it just emulates the style.

**RustyBin5** · 18th January 2018, 14:53

Originally Posted by blackal

This model really appeals to me. Not sure if it is a direct copy of a Nomos or if it just emulates the style.

That one comes in 38mm and 44mm options too I think

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**Broussard** · 18th January 2018, 15:10

Nice Sinn / Damasko feel to that.

**RustyBin5** · 18th January 2018, 15:12

Originally Posted by RustyBin5

That one comes in 38mm and 44mm options too I think

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44mm Roman version on eBay under £200 just now - 4 hours to go. I owned the 44 but it really does wear large

Link here https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132466551072

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**Derivative** · 18th January 2018, 15:39

It’s nice but would have been better without the gmt hand in my opinion

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**Papa Hotel** · 18th January 2018, 16:26

Originally Posted by Derivative

It’s nice but would have been better without the gmt hand in my opinion

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It wouldn't be a GMT watch without the GMT hand. They already do a load of B-Uhr variants if you want one without the GMT hand... but then those aren't GMT watches.

**Redwolf** · 18th January 2018, 16:58

I do like the lume shot mmm

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**pr0t** · 19th January 2018, 14:50

I ordered one today. I really like the look, the lume, the relatively inconspicuous GMT hand and the 10 atm waterproofing. I've never had a titanium cased watch, so I'm hoping it doesn't feel too light for its size?

**RustyBin5** · 19th January 2018, 16:07

Let us know how it is in the flesh

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