Reply With QuoteOriginally Posted by Jimmcb
Posted to FaceBook by one of the local PSNI pages. Just thought I’d share :-).
Oh it’s me alright BP. You took the bait well. As expected actually. You’re worse than me, much worse.
Seriously, great to hear from you and hope you’re all safe and well down there.
The Scots won handsomely today and England could do nothing at all about it, so let us revel a wee bit please. We won’t go on to talk world cups though! It’s doesnt happen too often so I’m making hay while sun shines.
Stick in BP, thanks for writing, and if you wanna buy or sell anything let me know. I’ll sell you a Calcutta cup if you fancy cos you can’t buy them for at least 12 months.
Jim
Enjoy the evening, Jim!Revel away!
It was a fair result.
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Thanks. And you BP.Enjoy the evening, Jim!
It was a fair result.
All the very best and keep safe and well.
Jim
Scotland put in the performance they’ve been threatening for a couple of years. England very poor and didn’t read Owens at all well though unsure why the TMO didn’t highlight Wilson scratching at Hughes eyes during their handbags.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcrugbyu...681920/video/1
Painful- but England really didn’t deserve to win. I doubt it was complacency- but they were a pale shadow of their usual selves.
Suddenly Nigel Owens is the worst referee ever. Interesting!
I didn’t actually say that, though he was quite variable.
Sorry, I never said you did. Seems that social media is awash with anti-Owens comments right now.
Owens was poor but even if he'd had a perfect game as referee Scotland still would have won. They played well, they'd have beaten any team today so let's give them the credit they deserve. How on earth that was the same team that got spanked by Wales I don't know - must be frustrating for the Scotland fans. Well done Scotland and I thought the winning margin was fair as well.
I don't think anyone has said that. All I said was I was pissed off at some ref'ing inconsistencies. Like Feet in touch being missed, being off their feet at the break down.
nigel is a great ref, but having him ref a England Scotland game is crazy.
Not that it makes any difference now.
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Enjoy the evening, Jim!
It was a fair result.
Indeed, lets hope he does not have to wait another 10 years
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Rather surprisingly a lot of people are.
Fully agree with this. Need to put it behind us put a big points difference on the French, hope Scotland hose Ireland and then aim for a bonus point against the Irish but think that’s a long shot and can’t see it happening.
Ok
Just in from the pub
AndyG I take it you're £50 bet is firmly ensconced in Eddies fundraiser,
If not get it done.
Scotland I wish you had believed more in the 2nd half and we could have really won by a big margin but a victory is a victory.
Ireland are the best Northern hemisphere team with England,Scotland and Wales a close second IMO.
England v Ireland is going to be titanic and I fancy Ireland.
Andy G! Andy G what hath become of you ?
Does anybody else in here feel the way I do ?
To the dulcet tones of Pink Floyd The Wall(Vera)
Or why didn't anyone pick up he was strangling the scots player. England were arrogant and they got there arses kicked, maybe they'll wake up the next game.unsure why the TMO didn’t highlight Wilson scratching at Hughes eyes during their handbags.
Sour grapes, or is that just a bitter Limey slant? 😂
I’d rather they waited a little longer
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
The Scots would have beaten anyone playing like that. Blown away by just how good they were.
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Hello, I am still here. I have just read this thread again, and to be honest I am in need of your assistance. Can you please link the post where I offered this bet.
Many thanks
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Go onto The Rugby Union Thread
Your post replying to my offer-28th Nov2017
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...ht=Rugby+union
Post338
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Here you go
Time to pay up Andy
Pretty clear!Here you go
Andy
I hope this has been of enough assistance for you.
Easy to forget these things I suppose.
Penultimate sentence to save searching.
It would be a shame if the fundraiser missed out, seems like a bet was made.
Has he gone?
Nice one for the fundraiser
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...=1#post4575584
I've got COP 50K riding on the England v Ireland match again, and on current form I'm not feeling too hopeful at not having to cough up two years on the trot.
Agree with this. The problem is the NO criticism is coming across as English sour grapes, but he did have a rather inconsistent game and Scotland got more of the rub of the green than England. Doesn't take away from the fact the Scots were brilliant, exciting to watch, and England poor.
Let's hope so, he's been an empty jersey for a long time.
Scotland were very good and have found a great player in Jones.
England were carrying a lot of passengers. Only Robshaw and Farrell to a lesser extend looked like they wanted to win.
Hartley - totally anonymous, his time is up. Ford, MIA. Danny Care - slow and poor passing. Lawes not a 6.
Team for the France game:
15 - Watson
14 - Nowell
13 - Joseph
12 - Teo
11 - May
10 - Farrell
9 - Care
1 - Vunipola
2 - George
3 - Cole
4 - Launchbury
5 - Itoje
6 - Robshaw
7 - Underhill
8 - Hughes
Jocks are going to have a heck of a hangover to get past before Ireland this weekend!
Sent them hame tae think again
Thanks for that, yes I had forgotten as it was 4 months ago
Donation of £50 has been made as agreed.
Plus as i previous said well done to Scotland on a well deserved win. Hopefully they will pay a greater part in the 6 Nations for some years to come and this was not a freak result.
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
Friedrich Nietzsche
What worries me more is that Owens is ref'ing the England/Ireland so all this criticism of Owen might effect the outcome of the game and championship.
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
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No he hasn't. Just busy doing other things.
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
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Well England might get lucky and get an incompetent TMO just like they did against Wales, so all's not lost 'ol bean.
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Well England might get lucky and get an incompetent TMO just like they did against Wales, so all's not lost 'ol bean.
Time to let it go. Otherwise you might have to watch the whole match again and question every decision made, every penality awarded and every point scored.
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
Friedrich Nietzsche
The thing with Scottish rugby Andy is that we have a tiny playing pool to choose from in comparison to England and the other nations too apart from maybe Italy.Thanks for that, yes I had forgotten as it was 4 months ago
Donation of £50 has been made as agreed.
Plus as i previous said well done to Scotland on a well deserved win. Hopefully they will pay a greater part in the 6 Nations for some years to come and this was not a freak result.
Good coaching and a good level of fitness can of course help bridge the gap but we will always struggle in the raw physicality that England can choose from.
The stars are aligning a bit at the moment when we seem to have a decent amount of talent coming through at the one time which we haven't had for a while.As long as Townsend is the coach we hope he is(I would have stuck with Vern)then hopefully we might indeed provide a challenge in the next few years but we will need to be lucky with injuries etc as we obviously don't have the strength in depth of other nations.
I think a few comments ago somebody said Scotland would have beaten anyone in that form.I actually disagree with that and I think thats why England are a good team as opposed to a great team.
I imagine The All Blacks would have found a way to win that one as thats what great teams do.
Anyway here's to an exiting couple of weeks rugby which is what it's all about.
Jones at least never made any excuses which was fair play to him, as for the England players they should look at their own disciplinary record over the last two games. Ten penalties conceded against Wales (Wales had 2) and thirteen against Scotland (7). Perhaps it's time they looked at themselves instead of blaming other's. Two different games and two different referee's.
Jeremy Guscott nailed it in the aftermatch comments, saying England have to play at their own place and do their own thing. Scotland denied them that. They kept the tempo high and forced England onto the back foot especially in the first half. England had no answer or a plan B, which would concern me if I was an England fan.
As for the Scotland players, at least Scotland are begining to produce world class players, Ten years ago you'd be struggling to name one world class Scottish player, so at least they are on the right track.
Last edited by zippy; 27th February 2018 at 17:45.
^^^^^^^^^
Wise words but not sure the very good sense it brings will be listened to.
Apparently there are just under 2,000,000 registered rugby players in England and just under 40,000 in Scotland.
Barring France I think England has the biggest pool to select from anywhere in the world of so called top tier rugby. So if they cant get success from both the money that number draws in or the level of coaching then something’s wrong. In fact England’s inconsistency needs explaining where the likes of NZ SA or Aus have been doing it for years all the time with lesser numbers.
Jim
Actually very impressed with Eddie Jones comments after the match. Gave great praise to Scotland and no excuses about his own team. Pity his captain and couple of other players had to mention the Ref although interviewing them just after the match means tempers may be high.
Scotland were very good but we have to remember we are one or two injuries from disaster. If Russell, Barclay and Watson were lost we might struggle to find adequate replacements. Bet the English were sick of seeing Barclay and Watson competing every time.
Lol, 2,000,000 registered players eh, but how many of them are under the age of 16? The vast majority I imagine. How many continue to play after 16 at a competive level. When my son started playing at 7, his team could manage 40+ players (all registered btw). At 15, his team had to combine with another team in order to field a complete squad. Our colts team (under 18) has 6 players!
Sorry I don't buy the numbers argument. It's not about quantity - it's about quality and coaching and this is why NZ are so good. But if you don't think Scotland can field a competitive team going forward perhaps they should merge with Wales (who have a similar population). No thought not. So it just sounds like an excuse for performing badly. A bit like me moaning that England is crap at curling because we don't have any players. Lame!
as for Aus, SA and NZ - the only really consistent team is NZ. SA and Aus are struggling, just as NZ will do in the future, because boys are playing more football at school, partly because parents don't want their children playing rugby. It's already happened at my son's school.
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the points you make in the first para are the same the word over not just England Andy. surely your research at your boys school will have proven that?
And if its all about playing badly like England did on Saturday, why doesn't England merge with Italy then they will have a sharp cutting edge rather than being a blunt trauma instrument (nope didn't thing so either). As for fielding a competitive team going forward, they trounced England on Saturday and are looking much better going forward than England are. Has Eddie Jones had his day perhaps?
And we agree on the numbers notion. But by laws of averages, England must surely be able to get SOME quality out of their 2 million, more chance obviously than any other country irrespective of coaching. Some of the best players are those who have natural flair and coaching came later for them - coaching makes teams not individuals.
Enjoy the school boy rugby Andy
Cheers
Jim
Lol, 2,000,000 registered players eh, but how many of them are under the age of 16? The vast majority I imagine. How many continue to play after 16 at a competive level. When my son started playing at 7, his team could manage 40+ players (all registered btw). At 15, his team had to combine with another team in order to field a complete squad. Our colts team (under 18) has 6 players!
Sorry I don't buy the numbers argument. It's not about quantity - it's about quality and coaching and this is why NZ are so good. But if you don't think Scotland can field a competitive team going forward perhaps they should merge with Wales (who have a similar population). No thought not
as for Aus, SA and NZ - the only really consistent team is NZ. SA and Aus are struggling, just as NZ will do in the future, because boys are playing more football at school, partly because parents don't want their children playing rugby. It's already happened at my son's school.
you are making the point that it's more difficult for Scotland because they have few players, but so what. Or are you suggesting Scotland has a smaller population than Wales.?
The simple fact remains England had a bad day at the office and lost one game to a better team. Shit happens, just has it has on numerous times in the past. It's what makes sport interesting.
Alas it seems that Scotland have been underperforming since the start of the 6 Nations when compared with the likes of Wales and Ireland, but are you suggesting this is England fault because they have a bigger population?
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There's no excuse for this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43235314
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