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    2254.50 service

    Afternoon all,

    I've recently picked up one of these and absolutely love it. I bought it as an evening and weekends beater, basically something to wear when hanging out with my kids without worrying about. As such, I wasn't looking for a perfect reference as it's kind of counter intuitive because I don't want to be babying it. However, what I've found is that its less than perfect condition bothers me a bit. I'm a loser I know. I think its just that this is the first time I've bought something that wasn't absolutely mint and it annoys me a little bit when I see scuffs on the bezel etc, however trivial it may be.

    I'm tempted to put it in for a service at omega but I reckon what they'll do is replace the whole bezel rather than trying to fanny around with it.

    Anybody have experience or an idea of how much this would cost. I'm guessing maybe 400 +??

    Thanks in advance

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    I think Omega charge around £200 to replace the bezel. Prior to the Swatch Group parts restrictions I was buying them for around £185 but prices for remaining stocks have rocketed so it's cheaper to get it replaced by an Omega accredited repairer who has access to parts.

    Trying to refinish these bezels isn`t always successful, even if the insert's in decent condition. Once the bezel's picked up deep scratches and gouges it's impossible to get it right. Light scratching can be corrected with minimal loss of sharpness, but some loss of edges is inevitable and it's something to look out for on these.

    I`ve serviced and sorted lots of these in the past. Usually a scruffy bezel's a sign of a watch that's had a busy life, but given that some of these watches are 20+ years old it's hardly surprising.

    Omega charge around £350 for service and refinishing, but if the bezel's beyond refinishing it'll need replacing. They can`t force you to have it replaced but I`m guessing they won`t refinish a bezel that's too far gone.

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    No repairer can fix a scuffed bezel on those, it is a replacement only job, Omega wont even attempt to improve it. Omega will be a flat £380 for a service plus around £200 for a bezel so I am afraid to make it look mint will cost you circa £580. SMPs are wonderful but a scruffy one gets expensive fast.

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    Without seeing the scratches/damage itís hard to give clear advice.

    Damage to the insert canít be fixed, thatís a certainty, but the bezel itself can be worked on and improved provided the damage is light. I was under the impression that Omega do this as part of their refinishing process, Iím sure Iíve seen watches fresh from Omega service and Iíve been able to see that the bezelís been refinished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Without seeing the scratches/damage it’s hard to give clear advice.

    Damage to the insert can’t be fixed, that’s a certainty, but the bezel itself can be worked on and improved provided the damage is light. I was under the impression that Omega do this as part of their refinishing process, I’m sure I’ve seen watches fresh from Omega service and I’ve been able to see that the bezel’s been refinished.

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    Wasn't contradicting you Paul, we cross posted. Yes it was the insert I was specifically meaning, I am sure they can brush the scalloping but it is the insert which tends to show the damage the most and they wont touch that on a 2254 or 2531. Interestingly the polished insert on the 2255 and others can be brought back quite well with Cape Cod etc in my experience but not a good idea on an anodised one like the 2254 etc.
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    2254.50 service

    Thank a lot for the detailed responses, they are much appreciated. The scuffs arenít that bad, I know Iím being picky. But then, you are what you are..

    Iíd say condition would be classed as very good. I know another option would be to sell this one and then look out for another that is in tip top condition. Only thing is that most of them have a bit of bruising, given the age of the watches. Mines a 2008 so one of the newer ones and it was serviced I think 4 yrs ago or less. So Iíd be looking for a mint one with service history which is hard to come by. Anyway, hereís a pic to put a face to the name. Iíve just put it on a nato to try but actually prefer the bracelet so will be switching it back.



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    When I've bought a watch either on here or other,I've looked at it close enough to accept the way it now is ie used,and accept the way it looks if I go ahead and buy it,not to then alter it!.
    I can see why someone might not want a watch that is almost new with some cosmetic issues,but the price would or should allow for that IMO,you decide what to do at that time.
    I quite like some of my watches to show they were used as intended,mostly which are vintage.I would never think about replacing the bezel on for eg an SMP,I've only ever bought ones that had minimal signs of wear etc simply because I know how expensive they are,I have an SMP with a lovely faded bezel which under a loupe may have hairlines,but it ain't going to be changed!,imo it wouldn't look as nice as it does.

    Some on here really are looking for perfection,when in reality it ain't there.

    Scrutinise a new watch and you'll find fault if you look close enough.

    Look at things thru the eyes you have,mine are 58 and see things pretty much blurry anyway,so a second hand hitting the markers or a date slightly out,or a small mark on the bezel won't be ever seen by me!.

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    Just seen your watch.......looks superb to me.

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    Yes I have seen a lot worse than that one.

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    2254.50 service

    Ok thanks for the input folks. Only watch that Iíve bought before at round about this age was a 14060m but I think for whatever reason they do seem to be treated more with kid gloves, prob because they are in a whole other price range whereas these watches are much more likely to be worn day to day without prejudice. Wouldnít go as far as to say Iím a perfectionist. The pics really didnít show much detail of the bezel, which I think you need to see really close up to scrutinise. Just not used to having wee dings is all!


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    That's bob on for a beater. I think your bigger issue is having a beater full stop. The point is that it's ok for them to get a little scuffed up, if it's going to bother you it might be worth looking at a Damasko or something cheaper i.e. more resistant to marking up or cheaper, whichever might work for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepreddave View Post
    That's bob on for a beater. I think your bigger issue is having a beater full stop. The point is that it's ok for them to get a little scuffed up, if it's going to bother you it might be worth looking at a Damasko or something cheaper i.e. more resistant to marking up or cheaper, whichever might work for you.
    Nah I think your points well made. Iíve traded up to this from an skx007 and 9 which used to share to load. Much as I liked them I thought they got a lot of wrist time when much nicer watches were languishing in the box. Have always loved the Peter Blake so looked at is as an opportunity to convince myself of another necessary purchase.


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    Iíve a 2254.50 Iíve had from new that I had fully serviced then dinged the bezel and had that replaced also. The prices quoted above are close to that I paid I think. If you want it looking spanking new I can thoroughly recommend Omega UK to handle it. They were great to deal with and my watch looks perfect.

    Depending on what you paid and if a full set, I imagine investing a bit in a refurb wonít be completely lost should you ever wish to sell. Good ones seem to do well and sell quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dommorton View Post
    Iíve a 2254.50 Iíve had from new that I had fully serviced then dinged the bezel and had that replaced also. The prices quoted above are close to that I paid I think. If you want it looking spanking new I can thoroughly recommend Omega UK to handle it. They were great to deal with and my watch looks perfect.

    Depending on what you paid and if a full set, I imagine investing a bit in a refurb wonít be completely lost should you ever wish to sell. Good ones seem to do well and sell quickly.
    Thanks mate. I think my plan for now is to wear it for a bit then see how I feel. I do like the sound of a full overhaul but would seem silly to do something like that so shortly after purchasing. I might beat it for a year or 2 then treat it to love. In the mean time though If I saw a really nice one then Iíd probably just buy and sell as it would seem a cheaper way to do things. I think the distance between mine and excellent sales wise is prob 200-300 which Iíd be quite happy to absorb. Prob as Iíve said is that you just donít know when theyíre gonna need a service and mine is running very well.


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    That looks pretty good to me.

    As stated above Omega Service Centre do an excellent job on servicing and refinishing, thatís where I would send it.

    It it may be worth giving them a ring to see what they advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padders View Post
    Wasn't contradicting you Paul, we cross posted. Yes it was the insert I was specifically meaning, I am sure they can brush the scalloping but it is the insert which tends to show the damage the most and they wont touch that on a 2254 or 2531. Interestingly the polished insert on the 2255 and others can be brought back quite well with Cape Cod etc in my experience but not a good idea on an anodised one like the 2254 etc.
    Agreed, there's nothing that can be done for the insert, it's infuriating that Omega don`t sell it as a separate part (Rolex-style) and the after-market inserts were a joke last time I tried one.

    The polished inserts on the 2255 can usually be restored. I`ve stripped the remains of the painted numbers out, flatted out all the scratches, repolished the metal then repainted the numbers.......not my favourite job but the results are usually excellent. Putting the paint on is the hard part, I`ve yet to find an easy way!

    Sometimes I miss working on Seamaster Pros, but Omega clearly don`t want monkeys like me touching 'em and that's why they've done what they did with restricting parts supply. It's wrong, we all know that. My limited supply of case parts is earmarked for my own watches (should they be needed) plus a couple I`ve agreed to do for people. I`m not prepared to pay the silly 'black market' prices for stuff like hands and crowns, and without access to these parts I`m pushing my luck working on them.........it could turn out expensive for me if I have a bad day at the office!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyO View Post
    That looks pretty good to me.

    As stated above Omega Service Centre do an excellent job on servicing and refinishing, thatís where I would send it.

    It it may be worth giving them a ring to see what they advise.
    Cheers fella


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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Agreed, there's nothing that can be done for the insert, it's infuriating that Omega don`t sell it as a separate part (Rolex-style) and the after-market inserts were a joke last time I tried one.

    The polished inserts on the 2255 can usually be restored. I`ve stripped the remains of the painted numbers out, flatted out all the scratches, repolished the metal then repainted the numbers.......not my favourite job but the results are usually excellent. Putting the paint on is the hard part, I`ve yet to find an easy way!

    Sometimes I miss working on Seamaster Pros, but Omega clearly don`t want monkeys like me touching 'em and that's why they've done what they did with restricting parts supply. It's wrong, we all know that. My limited supply of case parts is earmarked for my own watches (should they be needed) plus a couple I`ve agreed to do for people. I`m not prepared to pay the silly 'black market' prices for stuff like hands and crowns, and without access to these parts I`m pushing my luck working on them.........it could turn out expensive for me if I have a bad day at the office!

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    Thanks for the info


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    STS is probably the best way to go, as Iím sure they would do what they could to keep it original.

    In some ways Im glad mine is still LNIB, but then that stops me wearing and enjoying it. Iíd consider selling it for bitcoins lol
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    STS is probably the best way to go, as Iím sure they would do what they could to keep it original.

    In some ways Im glad mine is still LNIB, but then that stops me wearing and enjoying it. Iíd consider selling it for bitcoins lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    STS is probably the best way to go, as Iím sure they would do what they could to keep it original.

    In some ways Im glad mine is still LNIB, but then that stops me wearing and enjoying it. Iíd consider selling it for bitcoins lol
    Mine is still LNIB too. I bought it unused, a few months old in 2004/5 for £630ish. I have worn it quite a lot, including to the office etc and, so far, it has avoided getting bashed. I think it may be something to do with its low profile, particularly as I frequently wear a Panerai or a Breitling Skyland Avenger, so maybe I have become accustomed to keeping my wrist tucked in.
    Sorry I can't help with the bezel - I do have an unused bezel for a Bond Seamaster that I'm hanging onto in the hope that a cheap watch, in bad need of a bezel, crops up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomGW View Post
    Mine is still LNIB too. I bought it unused, a few months old in 2004/5 for £630ish. I have worn it quite a lot, including to the office etc and, so far, it has avoided getting bashed. I think it may be something to do with its low profile, particularly as I frequently wear a Panerai or a Breitling Skyland Avenger, so maybe I have become accustomed to keeping my wrist tucked in.
    Sorry I can't help with the bezel - I do have an unused bezel for a Bond Seamaster that I'm hanging onto in the hope that a cheap watch, in bad need of a bezel, crops up.
    Ha, not a problem mate. Well done for keeping it pristine for 15yrs!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    STS is probably the best way to go, as Iím sure they would do what they could to keep it original.

    In some ways Im glad mine is still LNIB, but then that stops me wearing and enjoying it. Iíd consider selling it for bitcoins lol
    bitcoins, could be a great idea! Very LOL

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    Nipped into the omega boutique today (ended up picking up a nato - oops) and they quoted 415 for a service. The girl said she didnít think it would need a bezel replacement. But I guess thatís just something Iíll find out if and when I decide to stick it in. Right now, Iím just gonna wear it


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    Quote Originally Posted by RBear1981 View Post
    Nipped into the omega boutique today (ended up picking up a nato - oops) and they quoted 415 for a service. The girl said she didn’t think it would need a bezel replacement. But I guess that’s just something I’ll find out if and when I decide to stick it in. Right now, I’m just gonna wear it


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    Err that £415 includes a cheeky £35 handling fee for doing basically nothing. Call OSC in Southampton and AFAIK they will provide a pre-paid pack to post it to them. Bezel replacement is entirely up to you, they won't insist but would charge extra if you wanted it.

    Here is the official Omega pricing showing £380

    https://www.omegawatches.com/custome...mplete-service
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    £380 is a lot of money to service a very straightforward watch! What price the warm feeling of knowing itís been to Omegaís service centre?

    Paying a premium to get co-axialís serviced is understandable, but this is a basic ETA 2892. Frankly, I think sending one of these to Omega for service is overkill, plenty of inependents could do a good job for a lot less.

    As for the bezel, if the insertís scratched itíll be no better after service.

    Unless the watch needs service I strongly advise the OP to leave it as it is unless it looks really ropey. If itís going to be an everyday wearer itíll soon pick up a few more marks and scratches so perhaps itís better left as it is. A picture wouldíve been useful, itís hard to envisage what the watch is really like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Padders View Post
    Err that £415 includes a cheeky £35 handling fee for doing basically nothing. Call OSC in Southampton and AFAIK they will provide a pre-paid pack to post it to them. Bezel replacement is entirely up to you, they won't insist but would charge extra if you wanted it.

    Here is the official Omega pricing showing £380

    https://www.omegawatches.com/custome...mplete-service
    Thanks for the tip!


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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    £380 is a lot of money to service a very straightforward watch! What price the warm feeling of knowing itís been to Omegaís service centre?

    Paying a premium to get co-axialís serviced is understandable, but this is a basic ETA 2892. Frankly, I think sending one of these to Omega for service is overkill, plenty of inependents could do a good job for a lot less.

    As for the bezel, if the insertís scratched itíll be no better after service.

    Unless the watch needs service I strongly advise the OP to leave it as it is unless it looks really ropey. If itís going to be an everyday wearer itíll soon pick up a few more marks and scratches so perhaps itís better left as it is. A picture wouldíve been useful, itís hard to envisage what the watch is really like.


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    The watch is fine mate, Iím just being picky. The whole thing would imo benefit from a wee tidy up but it is by no means necessary. Pics at the top of the thread. Donít think Iíll be rushing to get a service but when I do Iíll appreciate piece of mind re health of the movement, water proofing, and of course the aesthetic benefits of a nice spit shine


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    Ah, hadn`t seen the pics.

    Just had a look and I`m certain that bezel's been refinished in the past, the edges look a bit soft to me. Could be the picture quality but the bezel edges don`t look sharp.

    Suggest you contact me if/when you decide to do anything with it, I may be able to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Ah, hadn`t seen the pics.

    Just had a look and I`m certain that bezel's been refinished in the past, the edges look a bit soft to me. Could be the picture quality but the bezel edges don`t look sharp.

    Suggest you contact me if/when you decide to do anything with it, I may be able to help.

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    Okeydoke mate, thatís really helpful. Thanks.


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    One of my all time favourite watches. Yours to me looks great as it is. As you are wearing it as a beater and hanging out with your kids I would wait until it gets a few more significant signs of use and then send it in for a service and tidy uk.

    I do know what you mean though one of my watches has a very tiny mark on it and it's this that bugs me the most out of all the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by degsey View Post
    One of my all time favourite watches. Yours to me looks great as it is. As you are wearing it as a beater and hanging out with your kids I would wait until it gets a few more significant signs of use and then send it in for a service and tidy uk.

    I do know what you mean though one of my watches has a very tiny mark on it and it's this that bugs me the most out of all the others.

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