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    Jack Heuer Autavia

    https://www.tagheuer.com/en-gb/news/...4_ID1_20171119

    Much nicer than the UAE in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    https://www.tagheuer.com/en-gb/news/...4_ID1_20171119

    Much nicer than the UAE in my opinion
    I like it, but 42mm?
    Last edited by number2; 20th November 2017 at 03:50.
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    Nice, but still too chunky.

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    Nice that the bracelet is vintage style as well. Love those bracelets as they're so comfortable.

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    I want one...really BAD!

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    Much better but it's still a hunk of metal and lacks finesse which the original Autavia had in bagfuls.

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    Too big, lugs too sharp/square and bracelet looks odd, but apart from that it isn’t too bad.

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    I like the colour scheme and the different bezel insert does a good job of making it appear less wide - but it still is a chunky watch.

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    I think the bezel insert needs more numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Much nicer than the UAE in my opinion
    At least you'll be able to see the hands on the UAE version!

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    Still can't get past running a public vote to decide which 39mm manual, non-date watch to replicate and then bringing out one that's 42mm, with a date at 6pm and automatic. Just like the 1163 and 11630 Autavias. Why not then do a new version of one of those, or use the movement from the TAG Carrera replicas for a 39mm Autavia?
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    At least they fixed the minute counter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy100 View Post
    Still can't get past running a public vote to decide which 39mm manual, non-date watch to replicate and then bringing out one that's 42mm, with a date at 6pm and automatic. Just like the 1163 and 11630 Autavias. Why not then do a new version of one of those, or use the movement from the TAG Carrera replicas for a 39mm Autavia?
    I guess they've missed the point a bit. It's not just the design that people love it's all the other features you've mentioned as well that is the appeal.

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    If I were a betting man I'd put money down that there will be nicer versions to come in the next couple of years....

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    I like it - there appears to be a sunburst finish to the dial.

    The current market still likes 40mm plus pieces -they have attempted to blend heritage with modern tastes.

    I must admit that I don't see the value in the small digit above the seconds on the bezel ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by W124 View Post
    I must admit that I don't see the value in the small digit above the seconds on the bezel ?
    I suspect it's there to accommodate the hour markers you see on the 2446 Autavias. My late 1960s 7763 (two sub dial, manual wind, compressor case) had the original version of this bezel, marked with both minutes and hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W124 View Post

    I must admit that I don't see the value in the small digit above the seconds on the bezel ?
    Strictly speaking, it's not seconds on the bezel - it's an MH insert (Minutes/Hour), an alternative to a Tachy insert!

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    Quote Originally Posted by W124 View Post
    I must admit that I don't see the value in the small digit above the seconds on the bezel ?
    It can be used as a GMT function.
    The PRS3 LE has similar hour markings on the countdown bezel - I find it useful for keeping track of a second time zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy100 View Post
    I suspect it's there to accommodate the hour markers you see on the 2446 Autavias.
    And on the 2446, 2446, 2446 & 2446 (and probably more!)
    Last edited by ed335d; 20th November 2017 at 23:39.

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    I think it's pretty sweet

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    Quote Originally Posted by W124 View Post
    I like it - there appears to be a sunburst finish to the dial.

    The current market still likes 40mm plus pieces -they have attempted to blend heritage with modern tastes.

    I must admit that I don't see the value in the small digit above the seconds on the bezel ?

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    Does look quite nice, but a bit too highly polished for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy100 View Post
    Still can't get past running a public vote to decide which 39mm manual, non-date watch to replicate and then bringing out one that's 42mm, with a date at 6pm and automatic. Just like the 1163 and 11630 Autavias. Why not then do a new version of one of those, or use the movement from the TAG Carrera replicas for a 39mm Autavia?
    This is my take on the episode. If they’d made it 39mm I’m sure they’d had sold more.

    I guess there is a limited market for a manual wind these days but they could have gone auto no-date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed335d View Post
    And on the 1163, 11630, 73463, 73663 (and probably more!)
    Yeah but it's an homage to the 2446 init?
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    Looks quite nice on that wrist shot, definitely more of a dressy diver, but I quite like those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy100 View Post
    Yeah but it's an homage to the 2446 init?
    True dat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim63 View Post
    If I were a betting man I'd put money down that there will be nicer versions to come in the next couple of years....

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    Saw One in an AD Window today.
    Didn't bother asking to try it on.
    Much prefer the (Heuer) Monaco and Monza re-issues.


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    The overall design is not right for me. Too big too thick and weird bracelet combination.

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    I think the H & M beze is a distinct improvement on the rather crude and large fonted 1-12 of the standard version.
    I am also very pleased to see minute hashes on the 30-minute sub-dial, not 2.5 minute ones, which are the biggest cock-up on the standard version.
    But I do prefer a reverse panda to a panda.
    Perhaps this version signposts improvements for the other one.
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    All they had to do was copy the previous one as they did with the re-edition of the 1964 Carerra and they’d have had a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    All they had to do was copy the previous one as they did with the re-edition of the 1964 Carrera and they’d have had a winner.
    I think it would have had found more favour on here, certainly.
    I wonder how the Watch is performing for them, sales wise, compared to other (Tag) Heuer Heritage lines ?

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    Well if it sells well they are right and we are wrong but given they can be easily bought at a discount I guess they are not selling like hot cakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    All they had to do was copy the previous one as they did with the re-edition of the 1964 Carerra and they’d have had a winner.
    Hell yes, especially with a GF bracelet replica with 19mm end pieces.

    The silver dial Jack here is growing on me now I've seen some pictures of it in the wild but like the black dial one I know I'm going to be really disappointed with it in the flesh. For that kind of money you can buy a mint 1163V.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    All they had to do was copy the previous one as they did with the re-edition of the 1964 Carerra and they’d have had a winner.
    I think one of the problems is that TH don't have a relatively small manual wind movement readily available in any of their other watches.

    The 1964 Carrera re-edition uses the lemania calibre as found in the speedmaster professional, but I believe that in the early 2000s (edit: Wikipedia tells me 1999) that lemania was subsumed into the swatch group under the Bruguet brand.

    Therefore the only option to produce smaller manual wind replicas of their historic chronograph range, is to take the rotor off one of their current 7750 / eta / modular chronograph movements which would not produce the ideal reduction in diameter and thickness required. Probably also a bit untested as to robustness for repeated manual winding to build power reserve.

    Come to think of it, there are very few readily available manual wind calibres in production. I struggle to think of one other than the seagul interpretation of the old valjoux movement.

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