Reply With QuoteWhen Donald Trump and Kim Jong-in kick off and there is nuclear armageddon, wiping most civilisation from the earth, the XC90 will survive it and still get you and your loved ones from A to B.
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Chaps,
The two year lease on the Q7 comes to an end early next year and now looking for a replacement. After eleven years of Audi’s I think it for a change as the lease has headed NORTH to replace.
I need another large SUV and the deals on the XC90 are pretty good and the press seems to hold them in high regard. So, any owners or experiences of the new model.
Ta
Pitch
When Donald Trump and Kim Jong-in kick off and there is nuclear armageddon, wiping most civilisation from the earth, the XC90 will survive it and still get you and your loved ones from A to B.
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I've got a new one and it's excellent. No issues with the software. Love the self driving on the motorways. Great car. Loads of space . Good equipment levels on the inspiration and has enough power for me .
Had one some while back, very comfortable, great seats, good level of equipment, not the best turning circle, now have its smaller sibling.
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Can you explain the operation of the self driving please?Originally Posted by Thorien
It's basically lane detection and responsive cruise control that work in conjunction to keep the car a set distance from the car infront and within your lane. So steers the wheel for you also. You arent allowed to totally remove your hands for more than about 15 secs - as a safety feature. But it makes driving on the motorways so much easier and more relaxing. I love the automatic full beams also that will some in section so as not to blind oncoming vehicles . Some amazing tech on this car.
Assume it brakes for you as well, guessing then it's sold as an assistance to the driver rather than a safety feature?
Yep it brakes and accelerates also up to whatever speed you set keeping the distance with any car infront - the distance can be changed also at 3 different distances to allow a huge gap a medium gap and a smaller gap but still a safe one .
Funnily enough I was thinking of one of these/ something more wafty when the golf goes back. Not seen a good value lease yet so if you find one please drop us a PM. Auto trader have a long term review for the hybrid but worth watching as covers options and if worth bothering with the hybrid etc.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.a...w-first-report
Sorry just saw I'd added first report, here is the end of term one which I thought was useful.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/content...w-sixth-report
Last edited by Chicken Pox; 19th November 2017 at 20:18. Reason: Added link
Test drove this recently, also the Q7 and the Jaguar F Pace. Audi was a bit more refined and has 7 seats as standard so bear that in mind if you needed 7 seats. F Pace felt smaller but was a lovely cabin to be in. Also drove the Maserati Levante - surprisingly affordable on PCP. That was a beautiful car. Personally I feel the Q7 is a tad nicer than the Volvo but that’s very much based on personal opinion. If the deal on the Volvo is much better than on the Q7 then I’d go Volvo if I didn’t need the 7 seats. As an FYI Maserati Levante can be had on PCP for £5.5k down and £549 a month which was a cracking deal on a c£70k car. Range Rover Sport doing some deals on lease too around £570 a month
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Cheers guys, much appreciated.
The Q7 has been a great car and with the current lease is 23% of RRP amortised worked out fine for me but to replace like for like is pushing towards 30% which is mad.
The XC90 is a seven seater I believe as standard unlike some of the other big SUV’s, Any LR in a no goer for me, lovely looking, but tech and reliability from experience is shocking.
So, all considered the XC90 it is pending test drive, the interior seems a lovely place to sit. Lease quotes are still incoming but initials are falling around low 20%’s of RRP which is fine with me.
Many thanks
Pitch
I've added the end of term report now rather than first >.<
If you don't mind sharing the quote you go for/ or a ball park figure, by PM if prefer I'd be interested- the one's direct from Volvo look a bit on the expensive side to my untrained eyes. I've got a while yet but don't want to get caught out with lead in time etc etc, still getting used to this lease malarky and trying to get away from hankering after older saloon with a nice big petrol engine!
No experience of the new model, but my 2006 is on 250k miles and still climbing without issues....
I’d be interested to hear figures on these too.
I’m in the final year of my company car so now looking into options (may go back to allowance). Is there a wait list on these from build at all as well? May be a bit soon for me but just interested to know.
Loving ours too. Best looking 7 seater on the market IMHO. Only regret is not getting the T8...
Forgive me a slight digression, Pitch.
Interested to know what life is like with a car that has that many miles. Presumably you have to start watching for suspension or chassis issues as well as the standard drivetrain problems on top of essential maintenance?
Or is it pretty much the same as running a car with 50k on the clock?
Honestly, in mechanical terms it really is no different to running a car with lower mileage... And to drive it is actually better than a friends 2007 XC90 with 60k on the clock (which has been poorly maintained).
They are so well built that it doesn't suffer with many issues and my intention is to get it to 500k before considering a change (subject to diesel still being a viable fuel etc). There isn't any rust on the chassis, and the suspension is just fine.
The wear and tear on the interior is another matter. Being a family car, XC90's often have well worn interiors long before the mechanical components fail, but this one was a 1 owner car when I bought it and I am fairly certain that the drivers seat was the only one that had ever been used. My kids and dogs have changed that, but that's kind of the point of the car.
The annual servicing bill is in the region of £600-£800 (about a monthly payment on a newer one), but even the basic service is £400 from the main dealer, so it's not hideous. Obviously with the mileage I do, I get through brakes and tyres quicker than most, but that is true of every car I own.
I even take it off-roading on occasion - from light green lane trails/BOATs to proper off road routes, so it's not like it is wrapped up in cotton wool! If anything it is quite liberating to have a car which owes you nothing and is probably worth what I paid for it in spare parts. It cost very little when I purchased it ~3 years ago with ~160-170k on the clock (IIRC), so even if the whole thing goes bang tomorrow, then it has been worth it.
Prior to this I owned a 200k mile A6 3.0tdi, and whilst that was still going, it felt very tired and was basically a fault-code machine. It never let me down, but was seldom without issue. The XC90 simply (touch wood) feels really very good, and if I covered the display most would assume it be lower mileage (not like new, but maybe 80k).
If you're local and curious you'd be welcome to come and take it for a drive and see for yourself
^Thanks Dan. Appreciate the detailed post.
I have a cut-off on online searches that's normally 50k miles and it's been bothering me for a few years now that I'm overpaying because of it. Probably dates back to reading car magazines in the 70s when automotive life spans were lower.
Sounds like not worrying about retained value but focusing on getting day-to-day value out of running the car rather than mollycoddling it could be a way forward for me.
Thanks again (and for the offer).
Sorry Pitch - back on track.
NP - most modern (and by modern, I mean ~2005 onwards) should be good for 200k minimum without much in the way of major work (outside of service items). Well built and well maintained Swedish and German cars are good for 400k, for the most part. The problem is that people stop maintaining them to the right level once their residual value falls, and that is where higher mileage cars become problematic before that point.
In buying, I would just focus more on things like the number of owners and maintenance record (simply a stamped service book isn't sufficient, you want to see receipts as to what has been done/not done). Also; I would advise to always drive a few for comparison, it's basically impossible to tell a good one from a bad one without driving more than one.
I would say anecdotally that I have fewer problems with my cars than most people I know who run new/newer cars. This is because any of the under-warranty-niggles and recalls are long done by the time I buy it and what is left is pretty solid. I also have a few basic rules which help, such as never buying a version of a car from the first few years of its production. Even the finest car manufacturers make mistakes which invariably get sorted for later models. Early face lift model cars are often a good buy IMHO.
Ultimately you face the same problems as with any second hand buy... trying to differentiate between a good one and a bad one. I would say that cars from 80k-130k are more problematic to buy as they still retain a fair chunk of value and sellers invariably try to maximise that. Once you get over 150k miles, most people have already lost interest, and therefore fewer "optimistic" descriptions are put out there.
There is little mileage in pretending it's something it's not once it has reached over 150k. (sorry about the pun)
Can you gaffa tape your hands to the wheel and have a nap ?
Forgot to say, options, as always, can make quite a difference. We went for the 'momentum' spec with the winter pack (heated windscreen and wheel) and Xenium pack (panoramic sunroof and 360 degree camera). Wouldn't be without either.
Air suspension is also supposed to be very nice.
All good points. I've just started using a Mercedes E220 that I got for my wife a few years ago (from this forum, as it happens) which has 190k on a 56 plate, bought on 120k. You'd honestly not be surprised if the odometer displayed 90k or lower, as other than some stonechipping to the bonnet, it's perfect inside and out. The key, as danmiddle2 points out, is maintaining it properly - this car goes to a Mercedes specialist whenever anything needs doing, but to be honest, it's not needed much.
I particularly went for this age car as it was the mid-life facelift model which sorted out the niggles and the rusting of the earlier cars, but kept the older, proven, 5-speed auto, as the 7-speed 'box that replaced it was a bit rubbish for the first few years. It's needed servicing plus tyres etc, with a secondary fuel pump (about £200) and front springs (one snapped but you have to do both - £250 in total) being the only non-service items I can recall. And a smashed electric door mirror at £350, but that was operator error!
Be aware of the specific issues of what you're buying, buy on maintenance and quality (does EVERYTHING work as it should? if not, walk away, as IMO it means that someone's skimped on maintenance) and then maintain it as if it were a new car. At this age it often makes sense to use specialists and avoid franchised dealers, though some have a lower-priced older-models programme which can make using them totally cost-effective.
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@Dan - thanks for the extra info.
Pitch
I dont know how this compares to your deal, but this XC90 deal has just arrived in my inbox:
https://www.britanniacarfinance.co.u...&utm_term=XC90
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