timefactors watches
Results 1 to 45 of 45

Thread: Liverpool v Man Utd - Sky Sports New Coverage

  1. #1

    Liverpool v Man Utd - Sky Sports New Coverage

    Sky are going way over the top about this game. I get that it's an important fixture for those two teams, but does it really require a 5 day countdown with never ending interviews and debates?
    The World Cup final is only 9 months away and they haven't even started one for that yet.

  2. #2
    Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    5,480
    Agreed. Touted as a North West derby...but it's not really. United V's City yes, Liverpool V's Everton yes.

    United V's Liverpool, there is a little bit of rivalry and bad blood but it's just another league game, I get really fed up with the TV channels trying to make it out to be an almighty clash of titans.

  3. #3
    Master MakeColdplayHistory's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    3,242
    I'm getting a bit bored of the hype but it's the biggest Premier League fixture of the year, this and the return obviously.

  4. #4
    Master senwar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Sheffield
    Posts
    2,820
    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo697 View Post
    Sky are going way over the top about this game. I get that it's an important fixture for those two teams, but does it really require a 5 day countdown with never ending interviews and debates?
    The World Cup final is only 9 months away and they haven't even started one for that yet.
    Sky sports are pathetic and try to hype everything. Red Monday last year wasn’t it? Shut up sky.

    The World Cup will be minimal coverage however given they don’t have the rights.

    I despise everything they represent in football. Hypocrite though as I have the channels.

  5. #5
    Master MakeColdplayHistory's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    3,242
    Quote Originally Posted by kevkojak View Post
    ... there is a little bit of rivalry ...
    A 'little' bit of rivalry?
    Guffaw!
    I'd have to use Bear Pit words in the G&D to discuss it more...

  6. #6
    Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    5,480
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    A 'little' bit of rivalry?
    Guffaw!
    I'd have to use Bear Pit words in the G&D to discuss it more...

    Sorry, I was thinking in MCFC terms - both sides turn into pansies when the Citizens roll into town.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    I'm getting a bit bored of the hype but it's the biggest Premier League fixture of the year, this and the return obviously.
    I'd say there are more important fixtures with regards to who wins the league and there are certainly other clubs that dislike each as much or probably more.

  8. #8
    Master MakeColdplayHistory's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    3,242
    Quote Originally Posted by kevkojak View Post
    Sorry, I was thinking in MCFC terms...
    That'll be your first mistake.

    <I really ought to add a smiley at this point but I can't find a suitable one>

  9. #9
    Master MakeColdplayHistory's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    3,242
    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo697 View Post
    I'd say there are more important fixtures with regards to who wins the league...
    There may well be this year. It will probably end up being more important to take points off our Manchester cousins than the *****s at the wrong end of the East Lancs Road but, taking them as individual games I know which one I want to win most.

    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo697 View Post
    ...there are certainly other clubs that dislike each as much or probably more.
    Not in this country*. Maybe in Scotland or Argentina...

    *edit: We're not keen on leeds either.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    There may well be this year. It will probably end up being more important to take points off our Manchester cousins than the *****s at the wrong end of the East Lancs Road but, taking them as individual games I know which one I want to win most.

    Not in this country*. Maybe in Scotland or Argentina...

    *edit: We're not keen on leeds either.
    I guess you've never been to a West Ham - Millwall game and I think Spurs and Arsenal fans would disagree too.

  11. #11
    Master MakeColdplayHistory's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    3,242
    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo697 View Post
    I guess you've never been to a West Ham - Millwall game and I think Spurs and Arsenal fans would disagree too.
    Every other match is a derby of some sort in that London.
    They hardly count.

    (and it's been a while since West Ham and Millwall have faced each other in a league fixture)

  12. #12
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    London
    Posts
    815
    While I agree Sky have gone over the top the tie has always been labelled as the north west derby - I would suggest that it is a massive game between the two most succesfull clubs in this country with the biggest fan base therefore the market for both sides is there - Liverpool through the 80s and Utd thereafter - there is a fierce rivalry between the two clubs and I would bet you anything you like of you was to ask a fan of either club what is there biggest game of the season then both would say this game. Its born out of respect ultimately for what either side have achieved.

    Im a 40 something year old man born in manchester in the mid 70s and supported Utd through the 80s when Liverpool won everything in fact the vast majority of my mates are Liverpool fans due to that reason - I was brought up watching Liverpool dominate and despised there glory (Jealousy) and likewise Ive seen the same hatred towards Utd in latter years when weve been sucesfull.

    The rivalry between utd and city is nowhere near on a par most city fans have only jumped on the band wagon in recent times and as such there isnt the same competiveness to the fixture and likewise I would suggest Liverpool-Everton are often split between families and the rivalry is different where as utd v Liverpool in the main is hatred so I can see why Sky are doing it.

    I had a season ticket for many years and have been fortunate to see Utd play in many of the biggest stadia in Europe - San Siro, Bernabeau, Nou Camp, Allianz, Celtic Park as well as all of the recent premier away grounds and Ive never been more intimidated than going to Anfield the atmosphere as an away fan there really makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up - Ive been pelted with coins and been locked in the ground for 90 minutes after and trust me that police escort back to the station is scary - I assure you the atmosphere is Vile between the two sets of fans and Id never take my kids to an away game at anfield - Again I think theres an under currant of respect at the core but there is no other game like it if your a fan of either side.

    Look at the amount of business the two clubs have done with each other the years 1964 was the last time the two clubs did business - look at how players have left and then joined the rivals as an example look how Liverpool fans view Owen or Utd fans view Ince as an example, it is without doubt the most important game of the season to both clubs all be it not the most vital and I think its as close as you will get to Celtic Rangers in the UK (Im sure the geordies would disagree, or the Spurs v Arsenal Derby as an example) but as a UTD fan definitely not the case

    That said Sky are completely milking it ......

    PS Utd 2-1

  13. #13
    Master Onelasttime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Everywhere, yet nowhere...
    Posts
    3,377
    Quote Originally Posted by senwar View Post
    Sky sports are pathetic and try to hype everything. Red Monday last year wasn’t it? Shut up sky.
    And what a game that was… yawn!

    I'm fully expecting us to get spanked with our defence making the usual crap decisions, and individual players (yes Lovren and Can, I'm talking to you) flapping and lunging like stranded fish on a muddy river bank.

    I'm glad I don't have Sky and I'm too busy on Saturday to watch it anyway.

    I still want us to beat the s**t out of them though

  14. #14
    Master thegoat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,468
    pffft
    It'd be more apt if they were showing it on The History Channel.

  15. #15
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    London
    Posts
    815
    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    pffft
    It'd be more apt if they were showing it on The History Channel.
    HA HA both sides have some so it would be fitting :)

  16. #16
    Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    5,480
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    That'll be your first mistake.

    <I really ought to add a smiley at this point but I can't find a suitable one>


    There is this one...

    I was only having a laugh anyway, I like the MU/Liverpool fixture and usually turn out for a few pints.

  17. #17
    Master thegoat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,468
    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post
    HA HA both sides have some so it would be fitting :)
    To be fair, your comment about City fans jumping on the bandwagon was the best bit for me.
    Hopefully , you and the other umpteen gazillion fans of the "worlds biggest football rivalry" (TM) will enjoy Saturdays hoof fest . May the team with the bestest history triumph . 😂😂😂

  18. #18
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    London
    Posts
    815
    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    To be fair, your comment about City fans jumping on the bandwagon was the best bit for me.
    Hopefully , you and the other umpteen gazillion fans of the "worlds biggest football rivalry" (TM) will enjoy Saturdays hoof fest . May the team with the bestest history triumph . 
    Im only having banter pal calm down - City are a great side and without doubt the team to beat - whoever ends above them will win it in my opinion but the johnny come lately is a fact - glory hunters are inevitable - liverpool had them, my era of utd fans there are plenty, chelsea and now city its a fact

    Ps I was in the Kippax for the mainroad massacre 5-1 city as a young boy that has stayed with me ever since

  19. #19
    Master thegoat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,468
    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post
    Im only having banter pal calm down - City are a great side and without doubt the team to beat - whoever ends above them will win it in my opinion but the johnny come lately is a fact - glory hunters are inevitable - liverpool had them, my era of utd fans there are plenty, chelsea and now city its a fact

    Ps I was in the Kippax for the mainroad massacre 5-1 city as a young boy that has stayed with me ever since
    Trust me on this.
    However many massacres you've witnessed City giving United, I've been on the receiving end of many many more from both your lot and the Scousers.
    I too, am only having a bit of fun.
    It does irk me about the coverage Sky are giving this. It does smack f pandering to a global armchair fan but hey, ratings are king eh?
    The game? Whilst neither team are giving me sleepless nights, I think United will scrape this one. Liverpools defence is shocking and without Mane, they really don't have many decent options upfront.
    If , God forbid, Mourhino stops thinking about himself and opts to let United off the leash, I think they'll step up again. Luckily enough, Ibrahimovic will be back soon and those two hyper inflated egos will ensure United two best players, Rashford and Martial , will be back on the bench .

  20. #20
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    London
    Posts
    815
    Spot on

    [QUOTE=thegoat;4524886]
    It does irk me about the coverage Sky are giving this. It does smack of pandering to a global armchair fan but hey, ratings are king

  21. #21
    Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    Leeds
    Posts
    1,491
    I remember them doing a Super Sunday a few years ago in which the full day of fixtures games mustered a single goal. They were ripped to shreds.

    Football is a crazy game. I hate the hype. But I don't have Sky Sports anymore so at least I don't see it all the time anymore.

    Hopefully this year it will actually be a goal fest with the teams and their respective attacking and defensive abilities on show... but probably not.

  22. #22
    Grand Master jwg663's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    21.5 km From Moscow
    Posts
    10,966
    One of the many reasons that this match is getting hyped like billy-o is no doubt down to the fact that BARB (Broadcasters' Audience Research Board) reckons that Saturday lunchtime fixtures receive the least number of viewers, so a 'huge' game like this is pretty much wasted in that timeslot...


    ...and there's advertising to sell, of course.
    ______

    ​Jim.

  23. #23
    Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Devon
    Posts
    1,802
    Quote Originally Posted by kevkojak View Post
    Agreed. Touted as a North West derby...but it's not really. United V's City yes, Liverpool V's Everton yes.

    United V's Liverpool, there is a little bit of rivalry and bad blood but it's just another league game, I get really fed up with the TV channels trying to make it out to be an almighty clash of titans.
    It’s historically the biggest game in the country and rivalry wise still is. If Liverpool had had more success in the last 20 years or so it probably would be up there with the el Classico.

  24. #24
    Master Alansmithee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Burscough, UK
    Posts
    4,988
    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post

    Im a 40 something year old man born in manchester in the mid 70s and supported Utd through the 80s when Liverpool won everything.
    You make me think - back in the 90s when middle-aged men would go on about how great the 60s and 70s to me, I would think 'yeah whatever grand-dad'.

    To teenagers and people under 25, Liverpool as a footballing superpower seem seem as distance as ww2.

  25. #25
    Just found this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37673147
    Apparently it's all to do with a canal, and I can't find anything that suggests that it's anything more than local rivalry. It's certainly not as intense as some of the other rivalries where fans have died.
    Ultimately I think most fans will think my rivalry is worse than your rivalry.
    Last edited by bonzo697; 13th October 2017 at 09:54.

  26. #26
    Master thegoat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,468
    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo697 View Post
    Just found this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37673147
    Apparently it's all to do with a canal, and I can't find anything that suggests that it's anything more than local rivalry. It's certainly not as intense as some of the other rivalries where fans have died.
    Ultimately I think most fans will think my rivalry is worse than your rivalry.
    It wasn't just any canal. The Manchester Ship Canal s opening meant large cargo ships could travel directly to the cotton mills and industrial areas of Manchester instead of unloading at Liverpool docks ( where half of it would go missing 😉, that's a joke btw) .
    Obviously the dockers weren't best pleased and the bad feeling spread throughput the Liverpool area,hence the inter city rivalry ever since.
    To pin it down as LFC v Man Utd is shoddy journalism at best and more likely downright fantasy.

  27. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    It wasn't just any canal. The Manchester Ship Canal s opening meant large cargo ships could travel directly to the cotton mills and industrial areas of Manchester instead of unloading at Liverpool docks ( where half of it would go missing , that's a joke btw) .
    Obviously the dockers weren't best pleased and the bad feeling spread throughput the Liverpool area,hence the inter city rivalry ever since.
    To pin it down as LFC v Man Utd is shoddy journalism at best and more likely downright fantasy.
    Agreed, so Sky should also be hyping City- Everton. It's interesting that dock/trade disputes are also responsible for rivalries between Portsmouth-Southampton, West Ham-Millwall and Newcastle-Sunderland.

  28. #28
    Journeyman
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    pride of the north
    Posts
    94
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    Every other match is a derby of some sort in that London.
    They hardly count.

    (and it's been a while since West Ham and Millwall have faced each other in a league fixture)

    I'm Liverpool through and through, Liverpool vs man u has always been and remains intense to say the least. 2009 Millwall went to West Ham (League Cup), I was working in London at time and went to the ground, it was insane - a throwback to the 70's, never seen anything like it for many many a year.

  29. #29
    Think they're only hyping it up so much this year because for the first time in a while, it's not some meaningless mid table clash.😄

    Malc

  30. #30
    Apprentice
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Posts
    26
    Just switched on, have I missed much?

  31. #31
    Apprentice
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Posts
    26
    The score suggests not...

  32. #32
    Journeyman
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Milton Keynes
    Posts
    181
    Not as much as Salah.. Liverpool should be couple goals up.

  33. #33
    Master Alansmithee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Burscough, UK
    Posts
    4,988
    I'm at my dad's (who has sky) - no wonder so many of you are complaining on the sky thread if you are paying £100 a month or so to watch that.

  34. #34
    Grand Master Neil.C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    SE England
    Posts
    22,608
    Quote Originally Posted by LRB255 View Post
    I'm Liverpool through and through, Liverpool vs man u has always been and remains intense to say the least. 2009 Millwall went to West Ham (League Cup), I was working in London at time and went to the ground, it was insane - a throwback to the 70's, never seen anything like it for many many a year.


    Great 'eh?
    Cheers,
    Neil.

    My Speedmaster website:

    http://www.freewebs.com/neil271052

  35. #35
    Apprentice
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Posts
    26
    Had it on some Sky app on the iPad and ended up hanging pictures in the hall instead, says it all really.

  36. #36
    Well that was utter dire.

  37. #37
    If that was the biggest game of the season I'm glad I prefer egg chasing these days.
    Last edited by bonzo697; 15th October 2017 at 09:49.

  38. #38
    Journeyman
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    pride of the north
    Posts
    94
    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    [/COLOR]

    Great 'eh?
    Still top boys

  39. #39
    Master
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    By the TOLL Road
    Posts
    2,325
    Blog Entries
    1
    What a load of utter rubbish

  40. #40
    Irony is the BBC have stuck it last on MOTD running order. Doesn't even deserve that. Dire - zero entertainment

  41. #41
    Master thegoat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,468
    Quote Originally Posted by dandanthewatchman View Post
    Irony is the BBC have stuck it last on MOTD running order. Doesn't even deserve that. Dire - zero entertainment
    Even Lineker alluded to it in his pre match waffle .
    Utter utter garbage . No entertainment, no goals , no football .
    Cheers Jose 👍

  42. #42
    Craftsman mjrennie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Manc exiled in Coventry
    Posts
    851
    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    Even Lineker alluded to it in his pre match waffle .
    Utter utter garbage . No entertainment, no goals , no football .
    Cheers Jose 
    Meanwhile at City yesterday...yawwwwnnnn. Lol.

  43. #43

  44. #44
    Apprentice
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    ealing
    Posts
    21
    Terrible game , wish I hadn't watched it . Although Liverpool tried to play a bit of football

  45. #45
    Journeyman
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    West Midlands
    Posts
    200
    I watched the 1sh half, then gave up, Carragher said beforehand MU wouldn't go there to play attacking football, he was right.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •