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    The Vietnam War

    There's a new series due out soon, initially in the US and then in the UK shortly after on BBC4. It looks like it'll be very interesting, so I thought I'd post a heads up in case anyone might miss it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ry-john-mccain


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/pro...he-vietnam-war
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    I just found out about this this morning. I will definitely be watching it. The Civil War was one of the best documentaries ever.

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    Thanks OP. This should be very good and I agree the Ken Burns series on the Civil War is excellent. I only recently finished watching it again.

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    Hoping this is as good as his civil war series.

    Never found a series on the Vietnam war that really worked, watching one on sky recently left me feeling the film makers had thought they'd won it.

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    Thanks for the heads up.

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    Bookmarked for recording.



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    Thanks, looking forward to it. However if they don't feature Country Joe at Woodstock I want my licence fee back

    ..and it's 1, 2, 3, what are fighting for?

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    Look forward to it Bob.

    There was a series on PBS America recently on the subject that was very good.
    Cheers,
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    As a vet of the war, I generally steer clear of Vietnam films and documentaries. This one looks like a "must see." Thanks for the heads-up!

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    There's a preview on Newsnight tonight with an interview with Ken Burns. Starts on BBC 4 next week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    There's a preview on Newsnight tonight with an interview with Ken Burns. Starts on BBC 4 next week.


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    Starts at 34:20.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ight-19092017#

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    Thanks for the heads up. Will put it on record in sky plus.

    A few years ago, I asked somebody I know, ( Vietnam vet. He was a pilot). Which of the Vietnam war films he thought was th most "realistic"... n
    He replied none of them.....at a push he thought probably platoon.

    I Visited Vietnam a few years ago, and visited the tunnels at cu-chi....very interesting place...

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    Yeah, Platoon comes closest IMO.

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    Looks interesting. I hope it will be available in Netflix as well.

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    The Vietnam War

    It's on YouTube, probably by a Vietnamese poster: only problem is when an American speaks there are Vietnamese subtitles, when a Vietnamese speaks there are no subtitles so I can't understand what's being said. I will have to wait for next week and the BBC.

    (I watched an episode. Fascinating and sobering. Photographs, film, interviews not seen before.)


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    Nice one. Looks like a fascinating bit of tv.


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    BBC website: The Vietnam War.

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    Many thanks for the heads up.

    Spent 14 days in Vietnam touring year before last and it is the nicest county I have ever visited. The Vietnamese were some of the most beautiful, friendly, funny and charming people I have ever met.

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    looking forward to that looks very interesting


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    In Vietnam , Cambodia @ Laos at this moment so I would have missed the start so thanks to yo sir and Sky Q app have remotely set it record . Thanks


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    I'm watching this and it's very insightful.

    Interested to note the BBC has edited each episode down to 55 minutes ... original episodes are about 1.5 - 2 hours long.

    IMDB 9.2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877514/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt

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    Quote Originally Posted by I a n View Post
    I'm watching this and it's very insightful.

    Interested to note the BBC has edited each episode down to 55 minutes ... original episodes are about 1.5 - 2 hours long.

    IMDB 9.2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877514/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt
    I noticed this having got hold of the original US transmissions.
    I've asked BBCFOUR twitter account to explain the discrepancy.

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    I see Ken Burns stopped short of implicating Kissenger directly for the collapse of the peace talks just before the '68 election.
    Tens of of thousands more casualties would be taken on both sides in the following 5 years.

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    Hello

    Quote Originally Posted by Tickeros View Post
    I noticed this having got hold of the original US transmissions.
    I've asked BBCFOUR twitter account to explain the discrepancy.
    Can you pm me where you located the original US transmissions please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tickeros View Post
    I see Ken Burns stopped short of implicating Kissenger directly for the collapse of the peace talks just before the '68 election.
    Tens of of thousands more casualties would be taken on both sides in the following 5 years.
    We've had this discussion before, in the Trump thread I believe. There was no way talks would have borne fruit in 1968. Both sides were still much too polarized and holding the belief they could prevail. LBJ tossed up a "Hail Mary" in a vain attempt to salvage at least some of his legacy, and to try bolstering his VP's (Humphrey) fading chances to win the imminent presidential election. Nixon was a conniver, saw through Johnson's ploy, and pulled one of his 'dirty tricks' to convince Thieu not to participate in the talks, thus scuttling them, along with Humphrey's remote chances of victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I a n View Post
    I'm watching this and it's very insightful.

    Interested to note the BBC has edited each episode down to 55 minutes ... original episodes are about 1.5 - 2 hours long.

    IMDB 9.2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877514/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt
    I wonder why?
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by I a n View Post
    I'm watching this and it's very insightful.

    Interested to note the BBC has edited each episode down to 55 minutes ... original episodes are about 1.5 - 2 hours long.

    IMDB 9.2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877514/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt
    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    I wonder why?
    I'd be pretty sure this is simply a scheduling thing for the BBC where it might be harder 10 1.5-2 hour slots versus 55 minutes slots most of there longer programmes fall into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I a n View Post
    I'd be pretty sure this is simply a scheduling thing for the BBC where it might be harder 10 1.5-2 hour slots versus 55 minutes slots most of there longer programmes fall into.
    I would imagine that's true for many, many broadcasters, so it's probably just packaged that way for resale.

    90 minutes run time on US TV is pretty much an hour on the BBC, though - Although 2 hours is still more than 55 minutes.

    The IMDB link, though, mentions at least 4 different numbers of episodes, so I'm not sure I'd trust it that much!

    M.

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    many years ago, we used to watch a Canadian program called Vietnam: The Ten Thousand Day War

    Was good, but I was prob 13/14 so it may not have been

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0174323/

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    I would imagine that's true for many, many broadcasters, so it's probably just packaged that way for resale.

    90 minutes run time on US TV is pretty much an hour on the BBC, though - Although 2 hours is still more than 55 minutes.

    The IMDB link, though, mentions at least 4 different numbers of episodes, so I'm not sure I'd trust it that much!

    M.
    It's on PBS so there are fewer ad breaks. Those are the actual programme lengths.

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    I watched all ten episodes on U.S. television. As I recall, most episodes were two hours long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Lee View Post
    It's on PBS so there are fewer ad breaks. Those are the actual programme lengths.
    Yeah, I saw it on PBS.
    Cheers,
    Neil.

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