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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidL View Post
    Honestly you big girl Dudley! You're 6 ft something and they're 3 inches at most. Just pick them up and put them outside.
    I'm 6'4". I was staying at my mum and dad's house last year, sitting in bed reading a book when I was stunned by a huge bugger running at me across the sheets. I jumped out of bed, it disappeared under it. I had to call my dad. I think he was ashamed of me, but when he eventually caught it he did say it was the biggest he'd ever seen in the house, so there was some consolation.

    My brother lives in Texas and he's forever sending me pictures of tarantulas he sees in the neighbourhood (if I'd known this before I visited I wouldn't have visited). The common garden spider they have there would shake any arachnophobe to the core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJdB View Post
    I have seen thousands of spiders in my lifetime in the UK and never been biten once, nor have my family or friends...
    Good for you. However, people do get bitten in the UK and some bites can be serious enough to require medical attention. This is something that self-evidently should be avoided if possible.

    A friend of mine was bitten by a spider right here in the UK and it required treatment at A&E as the bite worsened rapidly after she was bitten. (N.B. I am not passing on any kind of urban legend; I saw the bite and I saw it rapidly developing throughout the day.)

    Despite the fact that such bites are rare and (eventually) medically relatively minor, it is nevertheless incorrect to claim that there is no real cause for concern. The fact is that in the real world (in the UK at least), there is some cause for caution. It is sensible to take some level of avoiding action.

    Despite having said all this, I strongly agree with you that we need spiders and that they should be treated with respect where feasible. Definitely do not kill them unless it is genuinely necessary.

    But... false widows (such as the Steatoda nobilis pictured by Artistmike above) are invasive species[1] and I think there is ecological justification for killing them on sight. This is nothing to do with their slightly venomous nature and all to do with their ecological status. I don't kill them on sight in my home as they seem to be good insect catchers but I think that the ecological justification for instant death is valid for these three or four species in the UK.






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    1: False widows (Steatoda nobilis, Steatoda grossa, Steatoda bipunctata and Steatoda paykulliana are present in the UK) are species that have existed in the UK for only about a century but seem to be spreading northwards very fast, possibly at the expense of native spider species. It can be argued that almost all British animal species are 'invasive', having re-entered the UK following the end of the last ice age, but false widows are definitely new and invasive/non-native by any sensible measure.
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    I like spiders

    They eat the blue bottles.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by PJdB View Post
    We (humans) would not be alive if it wasn't for spiders, - they are vital to our ecosystem.

    Spiders catch the horrible germ spreading bugs, flies etc that you should be concerned about.

    Many types of spiders are endangered.

    They are not at all scary, they are lovely little things, and should never be killed.

    Just carefully put a glass over one, paper underneath, and escort him or her outside, - they prefer it out there anyway.

    How can you be scared over something so small!
    My wifes best friend is scared of buttons, its perfectly normal to have a phobia about spiders because a, they look scary and b, some can kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    My wifes best friend is scared of buttons, its perfectly normal to have a phobia about spiders because a, they look scary and b, some can kill you.

    I agree that it's perfectly normal to have a phobia, - however, a phobia is an irrational fear, - nothing to do with "reasons".

    All I am saying is, - don't kill spiders, - they are too important to us, and many species thereof, are endangered.

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    Just caught this hitchhiker trying to get a backy on my bike. Hope it's not one of them false widow beggars.

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    We live out in the country so get loads of spiders, mice, woodlice, birds flying into our windows and foxes (that broke into my daughters guinea pig cage and ate both of them). The Mrs hates anything that crawls etc so I'm constantly getting screamed at due to the latest house invader.........some good pics of spiders in this post, will try to get a few to add to it.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by PJdB View Post
    I agree that it's perfectly normal to have a phobia, - however, a phobia is an irrational fear, - nothing to do with "reasons".

    All I am saying is, - don't kill spiders, - they are too important to us, and many species thereof, are endangered.
    I was replying to your comment about how someone can be scared of something when it's so small, size isn't the issue, it's the fact it's a spider that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprite1275 View Post
    Just caught this hitchhiker trying to get a backy on my bike. Hope it's not one of them false widow beggars.
    I've seen several illustrations online that would suggest that this one is a false widow but I think they might be wrong. Instead I think it's a type of funnel web or lace web spider, either Amaurobius fenestralis or Amaurobius similis, probably female.

    Have a look here http://www.naturespot.org.uk/species/lace-weaver-spider and http://www.falsewidowspider.org.uk/b...-weaver-spider.

    Anyone know for sure?
    Last edited by markrlondon; 2nd October 2017 at 19:32.

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    So what's this one?

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    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    A quick search suggest possibly a cucumber spider

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    A quick search suggest possibly a cucumber spider
    Yes that was my first thought.
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    It’s a spider making off with your tic-tac?

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    Has anyone got any Tube Web spiders around their property?

    You might see a circa 1cm tube web entrance in a wall or air brick etc. Give the little trap lines a tickle with a blade of grass and they’ll fly out to defend their hole.

    First saw them a few years ago and they’re pretty impressive beasts. I dangled one of those big hairy house spiders outside a tube web trap (with some very long nose pliers) and she came flying out and dragged it into her hole. They’ve got nice green iridescent fangs.

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    I was washing up one morning and one of these crawled out from behind the vase on the windowsill:



    I'd never seen one before and am not bothered by spiders but it freaked me out for a while.

    Turns out it's a common woodlouse spider and the jaws are used to crack woodlice shells. It can give a nasty nip to humans so I was right to be cautious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameswrx View Post
    Has anyone got any Tube Web spiders around their property?

    You might see a circa 1cm tube web entrance in a wall or air brick etc. Give the little trap lines a tickle with a blade of grass and they’ll fly out to defend their hole.

    First saw them a few years ago and they’re pretty impressive beasts. I dangled one of those big hairy house spiders outside a tube web trap (with some very long nose pliers) and she came flying out and dragged it into her hole. They’ve got nice green iridescent fangs.
    Hundreds of the buggers. They are certainly fearsome looking! One has made their lair right next to the light switch in the garage so you have to be a touch careful!

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    If your not sure of what kind of spider you have then here’s a handy guide.



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