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Thread: Another Rolex thread...Hulk vs Kermit

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    Sell your 14060M, keep the 114060. Buy a 16610LV and wear it with the bracelet from the 114060.

    I have tried on both a few times and am happy with both case shapes. I just reached the conclusion that for me the combination of maxi case, green bezel and green dial would be a bit loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbn13 View Post
    Sell your 14060M, keep the 114060. Buy a 16610LV and wear it with the bracelet from the 114060.

    I have tried on both a few times and am happy with both case shapes. I just reached the conclusion that for me the combination of maxi case, green bezel and green dial would be a bit loud.
    Possibly, however if the deal takes place it'll be the 114060 that gets the chop and in all honesty, I couldn't be ar$ed shuffling bracelets around anyway.
    Also, I'm not sure the bracelets are a 100% swap out anyway, are they ??

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    I have the 16610lv and it is this for me all day long. The 116610lv is just a bit blingy for me, the 16610 being more subtle. Both great watches though.

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    I don't like the green, if they did a blue steel Sub I would love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    Green's not my favourite colour on a watch, I prefer the old LV to the new at least you can swap the bezel.
    That's a very good point, get a black bezel and you've got two options.

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    Kermit for me.

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    Hulk by a nose.

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    Love them both, and own a Hulk which gives me a lot of pleasure; both of the watches ares superb, though, and I'm occasionally tempted to switch.

    As an aside, I was in WF at the Royal Exchange today and was astounded to see an unworn flat 4 16610LV on sale for £12k. I did suggest to them that it might be a bit toppy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longblackcoat View Post
    Heresy, perhaps, but I like neither of them. A Rolex sports/diver is brash enough as it is (and yes, I've got/have had several) but the green is just too much, particularly the Kermit, which to me looks like it came out of a Christmas cracker.
    I'd go further - the one with the green face - is a clown watch.

    both are unappealing, though

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    I would be worried about scratching the insert on the Kermit ( Yes I am a sad g*t ) I presume Flat 4 replacements aren't available and others much more than black equivalent so Hulk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Just a small point, this forum is full of people who will not know what a Hulk or a Kermit is, so why not use their proper name and show pics for comparison purposes?

    I like neither because they look too loud for my tastes.
    What a strange post from someone who was once working in education.

    Hulk by the way.Kermit has too much green for my liking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsgotournameonit View Post

    Hulk by the way.Kermit has too much green for my liking.
    Have you got them mixed up here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    As an aside, I was in WF at the Royal Exchange today and was astounded to see an unworn flat 4 16610LV on sale for £12k. I did suggest to them that it might be a bit toppy
    I was there a month or so ago and they had one for £15k.... probably the same one they've reduced

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Have you got them mixed up here ?
    Has to be a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveR View Post
    Has to be a joke


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    Have both. Kermit for me, easily. For those who don't know, the Kermit is the greatest Rolex made in the last 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowdon View Post
    Have both. Kermit for me, easily. For those who don't know, the Kermit is the greatest Rolex made in the last 20 years.
    It's nice, but it would still be difficult to decide between that one and my 16520.

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    Smile

    The 50th anniversary LV is by far a superior watch

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    I've always wondered why many folk compare these two. In reality their only similarity is a little (or a little more) green. Both different case shapes, bezel materials, bracelets, well, the whole watch really!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarky View Post
    I've always wondered why many folk compare these two. In reality their only similarity is a little (or a little more) green. Both different case shapes, bezel materials, bracelets, well, the whole watch really!
    its the same as compare the e46 M3 with the e92 M3 isn't it, of which the e46 is by far the better car

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    its the same as compare the e46 M3 with the e92 M3 isn't it, of which the e46 is by far the better car
    Not at all. This is a watch forum. The Kermit is a Submariner with maxi dial and green insert. The Hulk is a different watch. A comparison with the current SubC/Hulk would be more matched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarky View Post
    Not at all. This is a watch forum. The Kermit is a Submariner with maxi dial and green insert. The Hulk is a different watch. A comparison with the current SubC/Hulk would be more matched.
    How can it be a different watch when it has the same model number

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    How can it be a different watch when it has the same model number
    16610 and 116610 are the same to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    How can it be a different watch when it has the same model number
    It doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsgotournameonit View Post
    It doesn't.

    Yeah it does

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarky View Post
    16610 and 116610 are the same to you?

    ^^This^^

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    Personally its the "kermit" for me.

    Slightly less in your face. I also love the larger dial markers on the earlier case.
    Its a nice casual watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsgotournameonit View Post
    ^^This^^

    Basically yeah, the extra one at the front only denotes ceramic bezel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    Basically yeah, the extra one at the front only denotes ceramic bezel
    So the case, bracelet and movement are the same then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarky View Post
    So the case, bracelet and movement are the same then?
    If an Audi A1 Switches engines from a petrol to a diesel does that make it a different car

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    Basically yeah, the extra one at the front only denotes ceramic bezel
    The forum has a search function. You should use it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    If an Audi A1 Switches engines from a petrol to a diesel does that make it a different car
    What's with all the car comparisons?

    But in answer to your question, yes it does. But then change the chassis, body, materials, external paint colour and a host of components in that engine, I'd say it wouldn't be an A1.

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    Let's not get carried away here. They're essentially small differences, and both are quality watches.

    Which one appeals more is really a matter of personal style; as I said, there's no wrong choice here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    If an Audi A1 Switches engines from a petrol to a diesel does that make it a different car


    If watch A1 switches movement from a Quartz to an Automatic movement does it make it a different watch

    Of course it B****Y does

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    Awesome, another debate based on a specious car analogy in a watch thread.

    Cripes — it's the same movement reference; it just has a different hairspring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belligero View Post
    Awesome, another debate based on a specious car analogy in a watch thread.

    Cripes — it's the same movement reference; it just has a different hairspring.
    There isn't a debate, just one fella who thinks he's on Pistonheads and wrong and a few others chatting away.

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    Right Greg, I will actually answer your original question and ignore the guff on here. I prefer the Kermit because the contrast between a black dial and a green insert is pleasing without going over the top. Very much in the same way Pepsi and Coke inserts appeal to many. The Hulk on the other hand is too over the top for me with the green dial and the plasticy looking Ceramic insert - it is a bit of an assault on the eyes.

    No cars were mentioned in the answering of this question.

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    I think the Kermit is the more discrete and attractive for that reason. It is a humble Sub, but just that little more special because of the frosted green. But it is a shame that it is only remarkable by virtue of an easily replaceable bezel insert. You can get the same effect by a regular [cheaper] 16610 and pick up a green bezel.

    The Hulk is a bit too much imho, unless you absolutely love the radiant green. But at least the dial and cerachrome can't be duped.

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    I have owned both but only kept the 16610. It's the 50th anniversary model of an iconic watch and, for me, the way the case flows more smoothly into the bracelet is the much better Look of the rwo.

    I find the 116610 a bit too try-hard. Like a Sub in a David Byrne suit.

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    I will also not mention cars.

    The 16610 is perfectly proportioned and is not showy.

    The 116610 has a plastic looking bezel (yuk), wide lugs (yuk) and a brilliant bracelet.

    I will make a bit of a sweeping statement, the 16610 is more of an elderly mans watch and the 116610 is more suited to the younger man.

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    On the whole I prefer the Ceramic / 6 digit watches. The Kermit is one of the exceptions.

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    Just a little over a month after my original post and thank you for all the responses.
    It's roughly 50/50 on opinions and after all that, I still haven't made up my mind.
    Here's to the next month in the think tank...

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    I will add my biased opinion and go for the Hulk

    I love the unique dial colour and the superior bracelet, the green is very understated a lot of the time and the green of the bezel is wonderful

    Being a fan of the maxi-case and ceramic bezel makes it an easy decision really

    The Kermit is the original 50th anniversary model and the Hulk took over with the Submariner update so is it still the anniversary model but just mark 2?

    I see the Kermit as a black submariner with a maxi dial and green bezel, and not a very nice green if i am honest, when I saw one at Goodwood I was very disappointed, it looked cheap against all the 6 digit models in the case

    If the Kermit was still being produced alongside the Hulk there would be no competition, I cant help but think a lot of the hype is in the 'investment factor'

    If the Hulk is discontinued when the movement is updated the values on both will even out I am sure

    I intend to keep mine forever so it is pretty irrelevent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montybaber View Post
    I will add my biased opinion and go for the Hulk

    I love the unique dial colour and the superior bracelet, the green is very understated a lot of the time and the green of the bezel is wonderful

    Being a fan of the maxi-case and ceramic bezel makes it an easy decision really

    The Kermit is the original 50th anniversary model and the Hulk took over with the Submariner update so is it still the anniversary model but just mark 2?

    I see the Kermit as a black submariner with a maxi dial and green bezel, and not a very nice green if i am honest, when I saw one at Goodwood I was very disappointed, it looked cheap against all the 6 digit models in the case

    If the Kermit was still being produced alongside the Hulk there would be no competition, I cant help but think a lot of the hype is in the 'investment factor'

    If the Hulk is discontinued when the movement is updated the values on both will even out I am sure

    I intend to keep mine forever so it is pretty irrelevent
    Thanks Craig, your recent arrival woke me up again somewhat I have to admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Thanks Craig, your recent arrival woke me up again somewhat I have to admit.
    Do it! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montybaber View Post
    Do it! :)

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    LOVE the hulk!

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    You never forget your first true love that's why it'll always be the LV for me
    Actually I always thought "LV"was a nickname because it was the same shade of green as...


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    Just to tip you over the edge

    Last edited by Montybaber; 17th October 2017 at 10:21.

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    i think the kermit edges it with the green bezel and black dial the hulk is too greeny

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