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    Rolex lady datejust Manchester area

    My friend is looking at a rolex datejust and is ready to purchase a new one. Does anyone know a good place in Manchester to buy from and what discount if any should she be looking for?

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    I'm sure you'd get 10% at some of the smaller ad's

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    Bet you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Bet you don't.
    How much ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Bet you don't.
    Why not. My mum did

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    Quote Originally Posted by henk View Post
    David M Morrison St Ann's Square Manchester. Top AD.

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    Robinson I think you meant.

    Most would offer a discount face to face, but so many don't ask. Go in knowing what you want, ask if in stock and would they offer the discount if you buy today. No use having small talk if it's a no, just move on to the next one and let them watch you through the window.

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    My understanding is that any Rolex AD who gives discounts to total strangers on key stainless steel models, risks losing their agency. Plenty of shops already have experienced this. Rolex seem determined to hold prices; if they don't, down go second hand prices on your Rolex.
    Still, give it a go........

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    My understanding is that any Rolex AD who gives discounts to total strangers on key stainless steel models, risks losing their agency. Plenty of shops already have experienced this. Rolex seem determined to hold prices; if they don't, down go second hand prices on your Rolex.
    Still, give it a go........
    The op didnt mention whether the watch wanted was stainless steel or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    My understanding is that any Rolex AD who gives discounts to total strangers on key stainless steel models, risks losing their agency. Plenty of shops already have experienced this. Rolex seem determined to hold prices; if they don't, down go second hand prices on your Rolex.
    Still, give it a go........
    Your understanding is incorrect.

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    Two tone my mum achieved 10% with a diamond dot dial. Goldsmiths only offered 3% then moved to 4% when pushed. Both ads had this model in stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarky View Post
    Your understanding is incorrect.
    Indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henk View Post
    Can't understand why people constantly expect discounts for luxury goods. The whole idea of owning a Rolex or Aston Martin etc is your buying into Brand, Quality, Excellence. This does not sit well with the bartaring mentality of an Istanbul market trader.

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    What a silly comment.

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    Can't fault my mum for saving £850 off the rrp. Everybody loves a deal. The £850 saved gave my mum a bigger smile let alone buying her first luxury Rolex in her mid 60's

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarky View Post
    Your understanding is incorrect.
    Actually, it isn't. The example quoted was not a stainless steel watch. You will not get 10% On stainless steel. Precious metal and two-tone are different.
    People reading this thread who go to an AD will find the truth for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Actually, it isn't. The example quoted was not a stainless steel watch. You will not get 10% On stainless steel. Precious metal and two-tone are different.
    People reading this thread who go to an AD will find the truth for themselves.
    10% on a ladies SS model is definitely doable. Sorry but your wrong once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Actually, it isn't. The example quoted was not a stainless steel watch. You will not get 10% On stainless steel. Precious metal and two-tone are different.
    People reading this thread who go to an AD will find the truth for themselves.
    Quote Originally Posted by alexaff View Post
    10% on a ladies SS model is definitely doable. Sorry but your wrong once again.
    I've said it before and will do again. I joined for knowledge, yet find many don't have it, but type anyway. If you are uninformed, isn't it better to just stay off a thread?

    It's more than doable - I bought my wife a SS model in February with 12.5%, 50% off a service, a discount voucher for use online and plenty of coffee
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk View Post
    Can't understand why people constantly expect discounts for luxury goods.
    Because free market competition? Rolex can't force 3rd party ADs to sell at RRP since that's illegal. Those AD's might want to sell at a discount to shift the less popular models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparjar View Post
    Because free market competition? Rolex can't force 3rd party ADs to sell at RRP since that's illegal. Those AD's might want to sell at a discount to shift the less popular models.
    & they regularly do.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Actually, it isn't. The example quoted was not a stainless steel watch. You will not get 10% On stainless steel. Precious metal and two-tone are different.
    People reading this thread who go to an AD will find the truth for themselves.
    Why post when you're clearly making things up. I myself have received 10% off a stainless steel Rolex.

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    Oh dear. Perhaps that special, special relationship is not quite so special after all...

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    I casually asked about discount on a ladies bi metal datejust (think the model is just over 8k) and was told 8%. As I said it was a casual ask when buying another watch so I'm sure I could get more. I'd want 15% to be honest as ladies don't hold their value as well - not because I'd want to sell it and yes the value should be irrelevant, but that's what I'd aim for.

    I bought my partner a pre owned one for 2.8k a couple of years back (late 90's I think) and was just considering an upgrade.

    Funny but I easily got £250 off a BLNR and a hulk not that long ago, doubt I would now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Oh dear. Perhaps that special, special relationship is not quite so special after all...
    Ha ha we have a Dealer calling someone looking for 10% off a watch a cheap skate, next tme your looking to sell your Rolex give Haywood a call he'll offer about 1200 quid less than anyone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big fella View Post
    Ha ha we have a Dealer calling someone looking for 10% off a watch a cheap skate...
    Did I say or even imply that? I wholeheartedly support the idea of a member seeking best value.....in fact I wish more would! My comment about a special relationship referred to a member who has celebrated such a thing with his AD, but appears not in fact to be enjoying any special level of discount.

    What was/were the watch/watches you have offered me in the past? Was it definitely in one of my four shops? There are two more with the same surname in the area that are not owned or run by me. If it was one of my shops, did you approach me personally as a fellow tz-er, or did you walk in and speak with one of my eighty colleagues? If someone else offered more, was it in part-exchange for another watch they had for sale that, let us say, was £1,500 more expensive than I might sell it for?

    I try to do my bit here as a member and only today have helped three tz-ukers with significant enquiries, for no advantage to myself. It is a dealer's lot to get a kicking on tz-uk occasionally and I'm genuinely sorry if I actually have given you cause to complain, but without knowing our history I can't respond properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Did I say or even imply that? I wholeheartedly support the idea of a member seeking best value.....in fact I wish more would! My comment about a special relationship referred to a member who has celebrated such a thing with his AD, but appears not in fact to be enjoying any special level of discount.

    What was/were the watch/watches you have offered me in the past? Was it definitely in one of my four shops? There are two more with the same surname in the area that are not owned or run by me. If it was one of my shops, did you approach me personally as a fellow tz-er, or did you walk in and speak with one of my eighty colleagues? If someone else offered more, was it in part-exchange for another watch they had for sale that, let us say, was £1,500 more expensive than I might sell it for?

    I try to do my bit here as a member and only today have helped three tz-ukers with significant enquiries, for no advantage to myself. It is a dealer's lot to get a kicking on tz-uk occasionally and I'm genuinely sorry if I actually have given you cause to complain, but without knowing our history I can't respond properly.

    Haywood

    Funny enough Haywood l actually phoned two of your shops today Regaurding 19 gold sovereigns l was thinking about selling the first in the market told me they were paying 160 quid on sovereigns, the second in b'head told me they were also paying 160 quid on sovereigns today when l asked what they were paying tomorrow she hung up, but funny enough if l'd have took the deal would have cost me around 1300 quid, so l passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the big fella View Post
    Funny enough Haywood l actually phoned two of your shops today Regaurding 19 gold sovereigns l was thinking about selling the first in the market told me they were paying 160 quid on sovereigns, the second in b'head told me they were also paying 160 quid on sovereigns today when l asked what they were paying tomorrow she hung up, but funny enough if l'd have took the deal would have cost me around 1300 quid, so l passed.
    No idea if this happened, but it's no surprise if bullion dealers and coin specialists offer more for 19 sovereigns than a high street jeweller, with the latter's greater costs of retail to bear.

    If conversely you offer the bullion / coin dealer a nice diamond piece or a vintage Rolex, will you complain about the prices they offer for those?

    I don't think this thread was the place to vent your unrelated agenda and note that you have chosen not to answer my questions, which were relevant.

    It would not be fair to the OP to continue this further here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    No idea if this happened, but it's no surprise if bullion dealers and coin specialists offer more for 19 sovereigns than a high street jeweller, with the latter's greater costs of retail to bear.

    If conversely you offer the bullion / coin dealer a nice diamond piece or a vintage Rolex, will you complain about the prices they offer for those?

    I don't think this thread was the place to vent your unrelated agenda and note that you have chosen not to answer my questions, which were relevant.

    It would not be fair to the OP to continue this further here.

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    Funny enough you've also offered me two quotes on a Rolex LV ceramic the first time it was on my wrist you offered £3500 it was about 3weeks old but you'd pay a bit more if l came in with the B&P, the second time was about 4mths ago you offered 5k, also what difference does it make weather l'm a tzer or not, and l aint venting anything.

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    I don't think you approached me, but equally don't think I'll rise to this any further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big fella View Post
    Funny enough Haywood l actually phoned two of your shops today Regaurding 19 gold sovereigns l was thinking about selling the first in the market told me they were paying 160 quid on sovereigns, the second in b'head told me they were also paying 160 quid on sovereigns today when l asked what they were paying tomorrow she hung up, but funny enough if l'd have took the deal would have cost me around 1300 quid, so l passed.

    blah blah blah

    Funny enough you've also offered me two quotes on a Rolex LV ceramic the first time it was on my wrist you offered £3500 it was about 3weeks old but you'd pay a bit more if l came in with the B&P, the second time was about 4mths ago you offered 5k, also what difference does it make weather l'm a tzer or not, and l aint venting anything.
    Can you please start the sentence with something other than "Funny enough" 'cos it's not funny at all having to re-read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Can you please start the sentence with something other than "Funny enough" 'cos it's not funny at all having to re-read it.
    Funny enough l was thinking that myself but don't let it worry you.

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    If you kept coming in to my shop every other week asking for prices on this that and the other, then buying or selling nowt I'd bar you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big fella View Post
    Funny enough l was thinking that myself but don't let it worry you.
    Please believe me when I say that it's not worrying me in the slightest.
    Your display of verbal eloquence I find quite amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarky View Post
    If you kept coming in to my shop every other week asking for prices on this that and the other, then buying or selling nowt I'd bar you.
    If you were quoting me those prices l'd be happy for you to bar me,but as it was l was shopping around for the best price on a couple of occassions, the first occasion was about 3yrs ago, the2nd was over the internet 4mths ago, oh and phoned up yesterday about a few sovereigns so hardly every other week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Please believe me when I say that it's not worrying me in the slightest.
    Your display of verbal eloquence I find quite amusing.
    Good for you but l don't find losing 1300 quid to a dealer amusing in the slightest funnily enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the big fella View Post
    Good for you but l don't find losing 1300 quid to a dealer amusing in the slightest funnily enough.
    Dealers gotta make a living......
    Clue - that's why he's a dealer.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Dealers gotta make a living......
    Clue - that's why he's a dealer.....
    lol did you work that out all by yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henk View Post
    Can't understand why people constantly expect discounts for luxury goods. The whole idea of owning a Rolex or Aston Martin etc is your buying into Brand, Quality, Excellence. This does not sit well with the bartaring mentality of an Istanbul market trader.
    The whole haggling thing irritates me too, but sadly many luxury watch brands' prices are either an opening gambit or a bluff. They know that to some money is no object and they will pay without hesitation, so why not charge those prices where possible. However they also know that the same products are available for less elsewhere, and they will have to compete for customers who know this.

    There's also an extent to which the initial high price is a kind of advertising campaign, allowing the customer to feel good about a discount on a watch that was never worth the asking price in the first place. Frankly I hate the whole haggling process in person, and I despise being on the other end of it. I am however quite happy to search for the best price online and around the world. Either way, unless you just enjoy burning money it seems we're stuck with it. Rolex clearly try to avoid this kind of thing, it's very much part of their strategy that their watches cost what they cost and so keep their value, but clearly even they can't control everything.

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