Reply With QuoteI saw one on Saturday and wasn't particularly impressed; it was very shiny and, for me, a little too large.
To me, it was just another watch in the window.
I am being drawn back to the CV2010, CV2014 Carreras though.
Can someone remind me why 'we' don't think much of this re-issue. Only, on paper, it looks a serious challenge to the Speedmaster. Panda dial, modern movement, some genuine history.....what's the drawback?
Especially as you can buy them for around £3200.
I saw one on Saturday and wasn't particularly impressed; it was very shiny and, for me, a little too large.
To me, it was just another watch in the window.
I am being drawn back to the CV2010, CV2014 Carreras though.
It's too bulky.
If it was 39mm I would buy it.
I think it looks great and like the Speedmaster a very versaitle watch. It's only drawback is Tag Heuer's brand perception amongst many of the TZ members because as far as I can see 'too large/bulky/shiny' can be atributed to some of TZ's most desirable brands and watches.Originally Posted by paskinner
The proportions being different to the watch it was modelled on I think put its reputation off to a bad start. The joke subdial doesn't help, at least to those whose eyesight hasn't gone yet.
In trying to ensure it wasn't a copy of the original they ruined the proportions imo. Not a fan of the polished BOR bracelet but that wouldn't have been a deal breaker if I liked the watch itself.
The Jack Heuer limited edition actually looks nicer as the changes in colour/design look like they hide the bloated bezel a bit - I'd like to see it in the flesh.
The BoR bracelet is far too blingy for me. The dial also reminds me of one if those Dan Henry watches.
Size / dimensions.
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Photo?
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Here's one…
Are we talking about this:
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This is the prototype, but essentially, yes.
See, if they made the watch 40mm and took both those 2mm off the bezel, I think it'd look great.
I prefer it to the moonwatch by a mile.
Proportions are fine when you try it on.
I don't see a problem but then again I don't have any experience of the original.
Bahahaha! Very good!Here's one…
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Just don't like the looks of it, especially the bezel. Speedmaster seems much more refined in comparison:
I like it the reissue. But they've messed up the scale/markers on minutes subdial. Somehow one can divide 10 by 4 in Switzerland, it doesn't seem to work elsewhere.
There's a lot to like about it but the bezel is very thick compared to the rest of the watch.
Also, as someone pointed out to me the other day, the minute counter subdial only measures 2.5 min increments so it's hard to precisely time anything less than that, which is a problem for a chronograph.
So, not flavour of the month, then. I'd like to see one in a shop, get a better idea.
They made an oversized, automatic version of what was a relatively small manual watch. The original is about the size of a pre-ceramic Sub but not quite as thick. The new version is about the same as the new ceramic Sea Dweller. Bearing in mind the size and movement I think they'd have been better off doing a reissue of an automatic Autavia but they already tried that a few years ago. I tried one on the other day and while I thought elements of it were good, for the money I'd rather have virtually anything else, top of the list being a Pelagos. I have a lot of chronographs and find a rotating bezel just as good for what I need to time as a chronograph, so for me the Pelagos with its titanium case and bracelet, adjustable clasp, better design and cheaper price wins every time.
I do think TAG had it right with the Carrera reissues - that is the ones that actually looked like faithful replicas of early Carreras.
I'm not so keen on modern Speedmasters but at least they have a nice continuous history, something the Autavia doesn't have. I wonder how long it will take TAG to Photoshop one onto a photo of Jochen Rindt like they did the new Monaco onto photos of McQueen?
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Thing that struck me when I saw one was just how big the gap looks between the case and the strap as the lugs must be quite long or certainly the spring bar holes are quite close to the ends of them.
Otherwise I quite like it, it's almost there. For me though the bezel insert let's it down and the mentioned lug/strap fitment look.
Just a question, but can anyone see TAG Heuer continuing with this reissue or ceasing production pretty quickly (similar to previous, failed attempts at bringing it back) due to a general lack of interest in the piece?
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I also saw one at the weekend. I didn't handle it but seeing it in the cabinet, it didn't exactly reek of quality to my eye. I'd feel more confident in the quality of a speedy. Perhaps it would be fine, if it weren't a reinterpretation of a much admired classic. As it is, it looked like a re-issue made with the modern diet in mind, and made me think:
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Hahahahaha. V good.I also saw one at the weekend. I didn't handle it but seeing it in the cabinet, it didn't exactly reek of quality to my eye. I'd feel more confident in the quality of a speedy. Perhaps it would be fine, if it weren't a reinterpretation of a much admired classic. As it is, it looked like a re-issue made with the modern diet in mind, and made me think:
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Just to add, I bought one a short while ago after contemplating an Omega Speed FOIS; I love it, only criticism being that it does sit 'noticleably' high on the wrist and has that 'large watch' feeling. I personally can see it becoming a fairly short-lived affair; don't think they'll shift many as Omega seem to have this corner of the market sewn-up - much to the detriment of TAG and others.
There was such a buzz about this, I feel they had to try to mess it up. The design was chosen, they just needed to put it in production, but instead they changed it.
Heuer appeals more to the watch community, whose prefer authentic smaller watches.
Instead they beefed it up, to appeal to a wider audience. Most of whom won't be interested in the heuer brand anyway.
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Here's mine. I really like it. Definitely chunky yes, but not as large appearing in real life.
I recommend trying it on in person. As for size comparisons, the latest Carrera's are actually measured thicker, and that's without a bezel!
Personally I'm hoping that it doesn't sell very well. It's not good when everyone owns the same watch!
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Seems lovely in pics and I'm considering buying one. Need to try it first though - wouldn't hesitate if it was <39mm.
I have heard the statement that they didn't want to re-issue too close to the original to protect the owners of vintage versions. That sounds like bs to me.
I have the 1964 Carrera re-edition and it is almost identical to the original.
They have bulked this up to fit with current fashions and in the process spoilt it.
I have tried one one and wanted to like it but it was just too big.
Also, the 2 1/2 markers on the minute sub dial are a very odd choice. Why not minute markers like the original.
Aficionados are complaining here and, aesthetically, I agree with them. However, will the watch as it is sell better with the general public than if it were completely faithful?
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I would buy tomorrow if the strap only fit!
No issue with the Bracelet though
.....But may just wait for The 85th Anniversary Autavia.
This is what a quality re-issue looks like.
1964 Heuer Carrera Re-edition from 1999
Carrera - Original compared to the re-edition
I agree with most sentiments here. Nice watch but I wouldn't buy it because - case too big and too thick, bracelet doesn't do it for me. I get that the latter is true to the original tho, it's just not my thing. Viewed it in person to be sure but just felt it was a big heft of a watch and there were others I'd prefer for the money.
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Why is the date '8' displayed sideways, is that correct ?
Are we talking about this:
(Sorry, I'm not well in with Tag -- but I like to know what aspects of a watch are considered to be poor, so this thread interests me).
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Because that's a picture of the prototype.
i like this one, prolly getting one by year end, as too many incoming... i prefer this re-editions compared to the earlier autavia / carrera / monza (not the recent) re-editions / re-issues
I like it,would be nice to see one the flesh.
I've tried it on both on leather and bracelet.
I liked the look of the leather but the OEM strap is really short.
On the bracelet it was very shiny and did not appeal.
Indeed.
Not worried about the size, but it's too highly polished, especially on the bracelet.
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Looks pretty good, probably too big for me. Do you know how thick the case is?Here's mine. I really like it. Definitely chunky yes, but not as large appearing in real life.
I recommend trying it on in person. As for size comparisons, the latest Carrera's are actually measured thicker, and that's without a bezel!
Personally I'm hoping that it doesn't sell very well. It's not good when everyone owns the same watch!
If you look at the old and new the old looks so much better proportioned.
I think it looks really good, but has been made too big/thick.
Also of concern is the implementation of the date. I'm someone who finds a date rather useful, and it has been integrated into chronographs well from time to time. Trouble is, if it's not at 12 'o' clock or at half-four, there's not really much room on a three-register chronograph for a date. This is quite noticeable in this instance, as it looks alright when the date is in the single digits, but when it's in double digits it's just too crowded.
Haven't seen one in the metal yet, granted.
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brush the bracelet
Measures at 15.6mm according to reviews. Side by side against a Speedmaster
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One from May sold for £3200 or best offer recently
Looking at the pictures it picks up scratches very easily
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tag-Heuer-...p2047675.l2557
Just looked on watchcount.com and it actually sold for £2800! Thats a huge loss if they paid RRP
That doesn't bode well did the one on SC at the moment then!
Just saw that. I think it's actually the same watch! The receipt is even folded the same way
SC one is same watch that sold on EBay ?
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