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    Seadweller 16600

    What on earth is happening?

    Was looking at a jewellers site and they had a seadweller on there at £8k. Bloody hell I thought they're trying it on so just had a look at the Watchfinder site and they have 5 seadweller 16600's from 2005 to 2010 and the prices are from just under 6k up to £8.5k.

    When did they get so expensive and why is there a £2.5k difference between a 2005 and a 2010.

    Please can someone educate me as I thought they were doing around the £4k/£4.5 mark.

    Am i missing something?

    Neil

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    As the current models rise in price, the older models follow.

    For less than £8.5k you could have the SDC which is to my mind a much better watch.
    Last edited by -Ally-; 27th June 2017 at 18:08.

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    I had the chance to get a nice 1660 at this price early in 2016 for less than 8.5k

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    Aren't the WF models at £8.5k NOS?


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    I still regret sending my 1992 tritium dialed SD back a few years ago because the clasp was cr@p.

    How much? £4,000!!!!!

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    I've got a 2008-2009 16600 that I find the bracelet really good on compared to the six digit ref nos! I had a SD4000 for less than 24 hours, not for me, but I do find that with most modern Rolex! We are all different thank God..

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    I had no issue with the bracelet but the clasp just didn't inspire confidence. That strange groove that the bar fits into made it easy for the clasp to spring open all by itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoodles View Post
    I've got a 2008-2009 16600 that I find the bracelet really good on compared to the six digit ref nos! I had a SD4000 for less than 24 hours, not for me, but I do find that with most modern Rolex! We are all different thank God..
    Good shout Vince, it feels slightly more robust than a 93150 and the polished ends to the links make it just that little bit special. Just given my M serial 16600 to my son so I am still traumatised.!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    Good shout Vince, it feels slightly more robust than a 93150 and the polished ends to the links make it just that little bit special. Just given my M serial 16600 to my son so I am still traumatised.!!
    Think mine is a M too Bob. Hope you are well Chief? Ah your a good Old Man! Taking my son to FOS Thursday, no doubt he will be paying for all the food & drinks in the Hotel Tomorrow Night! 樂
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    High demand for the best watches out there
    Have 2 brand new in the safe for the kids studies funds among other things

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    Looks to be a few nice UK SD's on eBay for mid 5k's, I recently bought an LV off eBay and did a face to face deal with a great seller. You might get a better deal going this route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanm_3 View Post
    I still regret sending my 1992 tritium dialed SD back a few years ago because the clasp was cr@p.

    How much? £4,000!!!!!
    If it makes you feel better, I sold my LV for three grand a couple of years ago.

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    Mark Worthington have two unworn 16600's in, both just under £10K.

    They offered me £5K for my Z serial SD two months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Big View Post
    Mark Worthington have two unworn 16600's in, both just under £10K.
    Bloody hell!

    I love the 16600, I'm on my 4th now, having had 3 SD4K's in between. Finally settled on a very tidy 1997 tritium dial which I've fitted with the 97200 bracelet from a SD4K so I now have the best of both worlds.


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    Rolex SS watch market is now FOMO driven. People will buy at any price because prices can only go up, forever.

    We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave O'Sullivan View Post
    If it makes you feel better, I sold my LV for three grand a couple of years ago.
    Whoa, that's a kick in the nuts right enough 😳

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanm_3 View Post
    Whoa, that's a kick in the nuts right enough 
    At least neither of you sold an Ed White for £3250 three years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    At least neither of you sold an Ed White for £3250 three years ago
    You must be having palpitations of the wallet. Have you checked the selling price of these recently. Not much on Chrono24 below £10k.

    On the SD Mike Wood has a nice example below £5k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave O'Sullivan View Post
    If it makes you feel better, I sold my LV for three grand a couple of years ago.
    Three and a half ;) . If it makes you feel any better, I repeated the mistake and sold it on for the same price a few months after - I share in your regret.

    And I still think about 11erv's Daytona...

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    Good 16600 sets can still be found for under £5,000 and at that level offer excellent value.

    Compare with the prevailing market for contemporary 16710 GMTs and 16610s, and reflect just how few SeaDwellers were sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    You must be having palpitations of the wallet. Have you checked the selling price of these recently. Not much on Chrono24 below £10k.

    On the SD Mike Wood has a nice example below £5k.
    Looks a good one. No papers. There was a loose one on SC recently for £4.2k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Looks a good one. No papers. There was a loose one on SC recently for £4.2k.
    In this market, at that valuation, wouldn't stay for long...

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    At least neither of you sold an Ed White for £3250 three years ago
    I did 😓

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben4watches View Post
    I did 
    No one would buy my Ed White 3 years ago for £3k so I still have it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uwtc View Post
    No one would buy my Ed White 3 years ago for £3k so I still have it!!
    PM me your bank details.

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    £3k is too low. I offer £3,010

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    Quote Originally Posted by 744ER View Post
    Rolex SS watch market is now FOMO driven. People will buy at any price because prices can only go up, forever.

    We'll see.
    It definitely seems like it. As a skeptic, it has made each purchase a real thought consuming process - "would I want to spend $XXXX on a watch when the market might collapse leaving me with a $XXXX/2 valued watch?". It makes the buyer experience a lot more deliberate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Good 16600 sets can still be found for under £5,000 and at that level offer excellent value.

    Compare with the prevailing market for contemporary 16710 GMTs and 16610s, and reflect just how few SeaDwellers were sold.

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    Ignoring the 16610LV, do you really have a hot market for 16610s in the UK? In the USA the three models that seem the most under priced are the 16610LB, 40mm Explorer 2, and the 16600. People have attempted to pump the Explorer 2 market with the 3186 movement, and been somewhat successful - leaving the two most classic Rolex divers the distinctly "least hot" references available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP Chestnut View Post
    Ignoring the 16610LV, do you really have a hot market for 16610s in the UK? In the USA the three models that seem the most under priced are the 16610LB, 40mm Explorer 2, and the 16600. People have attempted to pump the Explorer 2 market with the 3186 movement, and been somewhat successful - leaving the two most classic Rolex divers the distinctly "least hot" references available.
    Everything at the right price of course, but the 16610 black is indeed a steady banker. Historically it was always better than the 16710 GMT but that has reversed somewhat of late. It is interesting that the 14060, traditionally a little lame and sold in far fewer numbers than the 16610, has almost closed the gap on its big brother.

    I still cannot commercially see the Explorer II in the same league as the other sports models. That should elicit the usual protest from the "I juggle diamond drill bits for a living and my Exp II bezel is still perfect" club...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Everything at the right price of course, but the 16610 black is indeed a steady banker. Historically it was always better than the 16710 GMT but that has reversed somewhat of late. It is interesting that the 14060, traditionally a little lame and sold in far fewer numbers than the 16610, has almost closed the gap on its big brother.

    I still cannot commercially see the Explorer II in the same league as the other sports models. That should elicit the usual protest from the "I juggle diamond drill bits for a living and my Exp II bezel is still perfect" club...
    Many years ago when I bought my 16710 (original pepsi bezel even) I did so because it was the cheapest model that had a rotating bezel - like the 16610 which I really wanted but couldn't afford at the time. Times have definitely changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    PM me your bank details.
    Tony, if you don't bond with the ceramic Daytona I will do you a swop for an Ed White

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    Tony, if you don't bond with the ceramic Daytona I will do you a swop for an Ed White
    I'll get back to you on that one :)

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    My 16600 is going absolutely nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ywl23n View Post
    In this market, at that valuation, wouldn't stay for long...
    Mike has had it for sale for a while now, I know because I have looked at that watch about 50 times over the last few weeks..

    So tempted for my first Rolex and a trusted seller, I have read many a time "buy the seller"...

    He also has an Explorer II which is more likely to become my first Rolex..

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    Quote Originally Posted by uwtc View Post
    No one would buy my Ed White 3 years ago for £3k so I still have it!!
    UWTC - it may be small consolation, but I very nearly did. It's such a gorgeous watch I downloaded your excellent shots. For example....


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    Quote Originally Posted by uwtc View Post
    No one would buy my Ed White 3 years ago for £3k so I still have it!!
    I feel your pain, happy to alleviate that chap..

    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    PM me your bank details.
    Ugandian shillings ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by ywl23n View Post
    £3k is too low. I offer £3,010
    Ok, bidding war...£3,020 plus a packet of Jaffa cakes bid.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    UWTC - it may be small consolation, but I very nearly did. It's such a gorgeous watch I downloaded your excellent shots. For example....

    That has to be one of the cleanest dials that I have seen on an Ed White. Is it a service replacement as it doesn't have the T either side of Swiss Made and it doesn't look like it has a stepped dial. Would explain why it looks brand new.
    Last edited by Wallasey Runner; 30th June 2017 at 14:09.

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    For Ed White owners who sold for £3k to £4k a few years back, one has just been auctioned in Cheshire and although it wasn't the best example it did have original bracelet and box and papers and went for £12.9k - that's just under £16k with fees etc added.

    Is that crazy money or a reflection of where the vintage Speedmaster market is going. Come on Simon, hurry up I want mine back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanm_3 View Post
    I still regret sending my 1992 tritium dialed SD back a few years ago because the clasp was cr@p.

    How much? £4,000!!!!!
    Ouch!

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    "Too late, too late" will be the cry when the man with the bargains has passed you by

    All the previous generation Sports are in shorter supply and keener priced than ever before with only the 16610 classic sub being the easiest to find on a budget largely due to the sheer volume of them sold compared to no dates and sea dwellers. That said even they are healthier than ever and will continue to grow and prove to be a very shrewd investment.
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