I agree mostly with this, however watches are luxury fashion items if we are honest with ourselves and as such a homage like these are, at more than 10 feet, going to look like a Rolex to most people. Now you may not be trying to deceive them or yourself but the end result is that is what happens, they will think it's a Rolex. That's the thing that makes me not wear them, you are giving the appearance of having something you don't actually own and I personally find that I don't like that. If you don't mind people thinking that then go for it of course!
My 2 pennies worth:
1. The op is minded to look at a Steinhart and might buy it to scratch his itch for the BLNR (a very pretty watch but too big for me I think).
2. He will know if that will suffice or,as others have suggested,he should put his name on the waiting list and start saving/negotiating 0% finance etc.
3. The question of "homage" watches is moot - there is a line for many of us where,other than the maker's name on the dial - it moves into replica/fake territory.
My daughter had a boyfriend who,IIRC,had a fake/replica Rolex (although he could easily have afforded at least one of the real sports models) but paid to have it serviced like any other mechanical watch. Why?
Let's me wear the "look" for not a lot of coin, and steinharts on the secondary market are notorious for holding on to their value really well so on resale I doubt much if any money would be lost, so I go t see where the false economy is?
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There will be a financial loss however small when the watch is sold and then there is the time wasted buying and selling a pointless copy when this effort could have gone to saving and negotiating a deal on the real thing, which will make the op truly happy. There you go, false economy all round
To me, there is but one BLNR, the others will not satisfy the itch.
a year ago I would have laughed in your face if you'd suggested I'd own a Rolex, today I own this:
Ok considering that I AM the OP..... I can assure you - doing without any purchases in my watch hobby for at least 3 yrs would NOT make me "truly happy" - au contraire it sounds like abject misery! As for it being a "pointless copy" that's subjective surely. It's obvious what your own views of the brand are and of course that's fine. I think the difference is that I am only curious about this 'new' piece. I'm not committed to purchasing it, but I wouldn't brand it pointless either. In fact calling a £500-£600 potential purchase pointless is pretty harsh. If someone was spending £39,000 on a Richard Mille I wouldn't understand that at all - but I wouldn't rain on their parade calling it overpriced tosh either. Oh well. Different strokes for different folks...
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I like Steinhart and have owned their watches along with other homages (Marcello C etc) I have no problem with them at all, spending thousands it not for everyone and if you like the design why should you not have what you want?
Only thing I will say is I put off buying what I wanted (Submariner) for a number of years while I saved/tried to justify the purchase, as hard as I saved the price continued to rise and id probably have been better off buying at the start (where there's a will there's a way)
So although I dont agree that owning a homage is pointless, I do think if its a stop-gap whilst waiting/saving it may be better to just go for it sooner rather than later
Of course the market may crash in which case dont blame me :)
Yeah there's every chance that if I saved for a BLNR for a couple of years the price will prob have gone up by more than the price of a steinhart lol. Had another close look at the teaser picture. Couple of things....
I don't think bezel is steel it looks titanium.
The numbers on the chapter ring - only appear on the proTi500,
In short I think it's the batman version of the titanium 500. Could be wrong of course but that would mean sword hands not mercedes too. Oh well no doubt pics will appear soon
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I still have hard to believe why Steinhart don't made their own models. I guess the quality of their
work is ok but it's sad just copy others design straight off.
I don't think you read my post correctly I was merely asking how robust a blnr was and also about taking a much higher end watch for wearing in the evenings
I am not terrified of taking a watch on holiday I usually take 2 or three and the blnr would be the daily wearer
The blnr is a daily wear and just wondered how much punishment it could take
I also own a few Breitling's and the Rolex looks and feels a lot more delicate
Ok sorry about misquoting you. Must have mistaken for some of the other posters comments, but I guess the point is sometimes it's good to have a low cost beater that you don't mind strolling through shadier parts of town with it on your wrist. Anyway, thanks for correcting my error.
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This is a rehash of an old subject but I guess it is inevitable and can't fight it.
In my view, it is fine and is down to individual choice. The only thing I object to is - don't call it a homage. It is a copy even with minor alterations and don't use excuses to justify it. One doesn't need to justify it.
Trying to put down Rolex to justify ( not the OP who hasn't done it ) is plain disingenuous and silly.
It may get mistaken for Rolex but I wouldn't imply that it is the motivation in buying these.
Let us see what it actually is when Gnomon finally unveil it.
Personally I don't have an issue with homages/copies, some people are simply not in a position to drop 8 grand on a watch therefore the market for products like steinhart exists....a friend of mine who has been buying watches since the 60s laughs at Tudor and calls them rolex copies and says I should have bought the real thing... I suppose it's all subjective but I think there is a tendency to look down on lower priced alternatives which help people get a watch similar to their 'grail' for realistic money, as long as they don't put rolex on the dial it's fine by me......
But if skoda revolutionised themselves buy producing an engine that performed as well on the inside ( also ascetically) then it will of achieved what steinhart have done with the ETA movement performing inside within chronometer standards to compete with a Rolex movement. I'd say engineering is getting better all the time.
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Another vote for buy what you can afford. If you like the design, go for it - who knows in a couple years you may come into some extra money and be in position to buy the Rolex, that is should the Steinhart not have already scratched that itch!
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Sorry you feel that way.
I would love to own a BLNR one day but financially don't see that happening any time soon. So I was drawn into curiosity about this upcoming steinhart release. The comments I refuted were just ones I disagreed with - I wasn't salty. Having an opinion is still allowed on the forum right? . Some voice theirs and I agree whilst some voice and I disagree. No harm no foul. I really don't think comments comparing the brand to a skoda do anything other than further polarise the debate though. Designed to disparage I guess, but each to their own.
As for whether I pine for the BLNR or the LOOK of the BLNR i don't really know. If I had unlimited funds then I would go straight BLNR, but I don't, so it might be I settle for second fiddle. The thread was about an unexpected alternative springing up out of nowhere that got me thinking, that's all. I think I pine for the actual BLNR rather than the look or maybe I would have bought a Squale or Davosa batman by now. Neither of those brands seem to get the same flak for copying though which is interesting in itself.
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No release date on this one?
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It's a shame Steinhart don't do homages of other brands. If they had a watch that looks like Seamaster 2254.50 I'd jump on it pronto. It's been discontinued for so long now it'd be a real homage not a copy.
Isn't it a bit like a Fender Stratocaster? So many companies make cheaper copies because it is such an iconic design. Even Fender make cheaper versions in Mexico and under the Squire brand. The Stat was just a perfect design that has not been bettered, much like the Rolex sub was just "right". But still the original USA Stat is considered the best in terms of quality, workmanship and tone, just as an authentic Rolex sub is considered better than all the copies.
Homage is ok as long as your not trying to pull it off as real
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Appears to be a Triton
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Isn't that squale?
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Exactly this. I like product A. I like it because of the look and design. Why would opting for something that DOESN'T look like product A be an option? 🤦 - it's really down to nuance. Is it product A or the LOOK of product A that appeals. If it's the latter then a homage may suffice. If it's the former then it won't. Good, glad that's settled then
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If this is it, then the teaser photos have been a terrible tease:
https://www.steinhartwatches.de/de/t...000-titan.html
Good spot - only just posted.
Such a shame about the date window - black on white
No, its this
https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/d...t-premium.html
Oops, crossed posted!