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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Good spot - only just posted.

    Such a shame about the date window - black on white
    More of a shame it's not smaller.

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    I love their description:

    'The STEINHART Ocean Titanium 500 GMT Premium our contemporary interpretation of a divers watch classic' = we blatantly copied it, everyone knows it and we just don't care!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataripower View Post
    I love their description:

    'The STEINHART Ocean Titanium 500 GMT Premium our contemporary interpretation of a divers watch classic' = we blatantly copied it, everyone knows it and we just don't care!
    They should've just gone the whole hog and given it Rolex hands and a solid case-back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataripower View Post
    I love their description:

    'The STEINHART Ocean Titanium 500 GMT Premium our contemporary interpretation of a divers watch classic' = we blatantly copied it, everyone knows it and we just don't care!
    The hands are not Mercedes. The date at 6 does not have a cyclops. If you think this is a blatant copy then you're wrong. "Inspired by" would be fairer.

    My Marcelo C GMT from 2005 with cyclops and Mercedes hands was a MUCH closer copy to what Rolex was selling at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenikjones View Post
    The hands are not Mercedes. The date at 6 does not have a cyclops. If you think this is a blatant copy then you're wrong. "Inspired by" would be fairer.

    My Marcelo C GMT from 2005 with cyclops and Mercedes hands was a MUCH closer copy to what Rolex was selling at the time.
    So they have changed just enough to be able to fend of the hoard of Rolex lawyers, assuming of course that Rolex are that bothered which I doubt, after all imitation is the highest form of flattery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataripower View Post
    So they have changed just enough to be able to fend of the hoard of Rolex lawyers, assuming of course that Rolex are that bothered which I doubt, after all imitation is the highest form of flattery.
    Yip. Just enough... apart from the dial. And the size. And the Material. And the Finish. And the Hands. And the lack of Cyclops. And the date windows position.

    Blatant copy.

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    Poor mans BLNR

    Quote Originally Posted by ataripower View Post
    So they have changed just enough to be able to fend of the hoard of Rolex lawyers, assuming of course that Rolex are that bothered which I doubt, after all imitation is the highest form of flattery.
    Oh come on!!! Numbered chapter ring cyclops lumed bezel sapphire case back different bezel font 42mm diameter it's TITANIUM (!) different hands date position. Good god man the only similarity to BLNR is it's got a blue black bezel!

    It's not even close to a replica - if the Rolex lawyers are bored they should look here or here


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oafley Jones View Post
    Yip. Just enough... apart from the dial. And the size. And the Material. And the Finish. And the Hands. And the lack of Cyclops. And the date windows position.

    Blatant copy.
    And yet, from a few feet away you will have the desired effect of people thinking you own a Rolex BLNR - but it obviously does not look like one :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataripower View Post
    And yet, from a few feet away you will have the desired effect of people thinking you own a Rolex BLNR - but it obviously does not look like one :-)
    I can't imagine anyone mistaking this for a GMT. That matt titanium finish would have a completely different look.

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    I'm a actually very disappointed by Steinhart's restraint!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataripower View Post
    And yet, from a few feet away you will have the desired effect of people thinking you own a Rolex BLNR - but it obviously does not look like one :-)
    I think it looks good. Has a look all of its own actually . The obvious distant blue black thing is there. But apart from the bezel there are so many differences that I feel some slack should be given to Steinhart since the hatred of them is mostly based on their reputation for blatant replica making. At least this is a move away from that with the core of the watch being actually the original titanium 500 which most agreed was their first serious watch of their own making.


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    I'm not sure whether it's still relevant information, but my friend has a Davosa Ternos diver with a ceramic bezel (just not the GMT version) and he has nothing but praise for the quality. We haven't really discussed it, but he also has a 116610 Sub and a few other decent watches and he wouldn't have got himself the Davosa if it wasn't up to scratch (he was looking for a blue-on-blue diver).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    I think it looks good. Has a look all of its own actually . The obvious distant blue black thing is there. But apart from the bezel there are so many differences that I feel some slack should be given to Steinhart since the hatred of them is mostly based on their reputation for blatant replica making. At least this is a move away from that with the core of the watch being actually the original titanium 500 which most agreed was their first serious watch of their own making.


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    I quite like it. I've came close to buying the Ti500 a few times, but I've been put off by the suspicion that it's just a bit too grey and muted for even my dull aesthetic. I think the BLNR bezel gives it just enough of a flourish to elevate it. Question is, have they sorted out the QC with those new tapered bracelets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oafley Jones View Post
    I quite like it. I've came close to buying the Ti500 a few times, but I've been put off by the suspicion that it's just a bit too grey and muted for even my dull aesthetic. I think the BLNR bezel gives it just enough of a flourish to elevate it. Question is, have they sorted out the QC with those new tapered bracelets?
    If I were to be tempted by this, the bracelet would likely end up tucked away in the box anyway as it looks like a strap monster. Bracelet does look quite nice but I fear it would scuff up terribly quickly. My first reaction to the watch is very positive but in the spirit of pragmatism ....
    A) it's actually quite different from BLNR so my pining may continue as some suggested
    B) wish it were 40mm
    C) the bezel should be bidirectional?


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    Is actually quite unappealing. Davosa looks a thousand times more refined.

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    There is a short video of it here on someones wrist. Quite underwhelming...

    https://www.facebook.com/frenchstein...5411912960095/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ataripower View Post
    So they have changed just enough to be able to fend of the hoard of Rolex lawyers
    That assertion makes no sense, when Steinhart makes this



    and this



    among other very close copies of Rolex watches.

    I don't imagine Steinhart's sales eat into Rolex's profit enough for it to care, even if there was a case for litigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    That assertion makes no sense, when Steinhart makes this



    and this



    among other very close copies of Rolex watches.

    I don't imagine Steinhart's sales eat into Rolex's profit enough for it to care, even if there was a case for litigation.
    Change 'enough' to 'at all'..... they may actually increase them!

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    Shame it's not 40mm. It's not a blatant copy, unless people think that Rolex are the only ones allowed to use blue /black on a gmt?

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    Steinhart could release a used condom on a leather strap and people would still be up in arms saying they'd blatantly copied Rolex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameswrx View Post
    Steinhart could release a used condom on a leather strap and people would still be up in arms saying they'd blatantly copied Rolex.
    Stop giving them ideas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameswrx View Post
    Steinhart could release a used condom on a leather strap and people would still be up in arms saying they'd blatantly copied Rolex.
    A bit defensive,I would say.
    It is fine to buy and wear Steinhart in my books but a bit delusional and disingenuous to deny that several of their more popular models are Rolex copies.

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    Well this looks nothing like a BLNR in my opinion. The bezels both have black and blue in them. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaytip View Post
    Well this looks nothing like a BLNR in my opinion. The bezels both have black and blue in them. That's it.
    Just because they didn't make a good copy, it doesn't mean that it is not a copy:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Just because they didn't make a good copy, it doesn't mean that it is not a copy:-)
    Damned if you do, damned if you don't!

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    I got the e-mail off Steinhart this morning.

    https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/d...&utm_term=More

    I don't think they can be accused of ripping Rolex off this time. I note that it is still 42mm which will disappoint a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Just because they didn't make a good copy, it doesn't mean that it is not a copy:-)
    In the same way Rolex copied Blancpain in making a dive watch? THAT is how close a copy this is.

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    The OT500 was an original design, not copied. But attaching a BLNR bezel is really ugly, what a pity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataripower View Post
    They probably could make a car that looked like an Aston but it would be a Skoda on the inside and perform like a Skoda

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    Or like a VW, a seat and an Audi considering they share engines and platforms....


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    It's different enough from a BLNR to be something I would wear if I liked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    Damned if you do, damned if you don't!
    Rolex fanboys can be very defensive don't you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by amii21 View Post
    [IMG][/IMG]
    Quite like it but would be happier with a 40. At least it looks like it has a tapering bracelet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenikjones View Post
    In the same way Rolex copied Blancpain in making a dive watch? THAT is how close a copy this is.
    That old chest nut!
    Check your history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stix View Post
    Rolex fanboys can be very defensive don't you know
    Steinhart fanboys' defensiveness is a clear ripoff of Rolex fanboys' defensiveness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Steinhart fanboys' defensiveness is a clear ripoff of Rolex fanboys' defensiveness
    But bigger....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Steinhart fanboys' defensiveness is a clear ripoff of Rolex fanboys' defensiveness
    Haha this is true. I am guilty as charged

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    Looks good!


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    At least they didn't ruin it with a cyclops.

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    Have to say, I quite like the look of the new Steinhart illustrated below.

    Let's be fair as well, it is a generic dive watch, it is not just a total rip-off of the BLNR.

    Sapphire case back, decent movement and Ti throughout for euro660 it is a pretty decent specified watch at a decent price.

    PS. I am not a Steinhart fanboy.
    Last edited by gc52; 26th June 2017 at 17:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataripower View Post
    Stop giving them ideas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Just because they didn't make a good copy, it doesn't mean that it is not a copy:-)
    They make plenty Rolex copies - this has design cues but definitely not a copy. A copy would have been this ----> with a blue black bezel, in fact it would have been a lot less cost for them to release...


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    Quote Originally Posted by stix View Post
    Rolex fanboys can be very defensive don't you know
    So can steinhart fanboys truth be told .


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    Quote Originally Posted by stefmcd View Post
    But bigger....

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    .....and cheaper


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    If you buy one, are the stickers and tags held back

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    Looks interesting but a little toylike imho


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    Wink

    People saying it's too big... It looks quite small in the pics, its smaller than normal Steinharts isn't it?

    Just checked and my one is 42mm.

    I think any smaller it'd look like a mid size.

    Rolex fanboys just get jealous when they realise they're paying ten times as much for a blatant copy of a steinhart ;-). What is it Sekonda say? Beware of expensive imitations

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameswrx View Post
    People saying it's too big... It looks quite small in the pics, its smaller than normal Steinharts isn't it?

    Just checked and my one is 42mm.

    I think any smaller it'd look like a mid size.

    Rolex fanboys just get jealous when they realise they're paying ten times as much for a blatant copy of a steinhart ;-). What is it Sekonda say? Beware of expensive imitations
    Same size as all the other ocean 1 variations. Bigger than I would like but that hasn't put me off buying 4!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefmcd View Post
    Same size as all the other ocean 1 variations. Bigger than I would like but that hasn't put me off buying 4!

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    39mm coming apparently- end of summer


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    Saw the Steinhart this morning on an announcement email; ummed and arred for a couple of hours then bought one. Will post review following receipt and getting used to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    39mm coming apparently- end of summer


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