Reply With QuoteAt least they didn't find the body in the trunk.
And they never found out about the cat strangling.
My first traffic fine
The national oppressive forces* have written out my first traffic fine since I moved here 17 years ago.
For taking a roundabout, ´drifting at great velocity, endangering other road users and myself´ when I came back from a weekend with my lover in het villa at the coast.
I was going 40 km/h in second gear on an empty road and have in the past been paid to entertain a crowd driving thus.
Totally subjective and the only danger involved was these two officers driving their motorcycles within 2 meters of my rear bumper.
Since the officers of the law have that law on their side, there is nothing a civilian can do but to pay tribute to the State they serve and protect.
It was/is totally worth it.
They were not amused behind their dark sunglasses when I responded [i]´because it is fun´[/ì] upon their question why I drifted thus.
They even put it on the fine.
My son has copied and printed it. One to frame!
´Thank you officers, enjoy your day too.´
* The Guardia Civil is a military unit, created to control the civilians.
At least they didn't find the body in the trunk.
And they never found out about the cat strangling.
And she was pregnant with his kid.Originally Posted by ach5
I'm amazed they didn't realise you're a driving god and they should give you a round of applause...
They obviously didn't recognise you..
Good work!
I got done a couple of weeks ago for doing 46 in a 40... not very exciting compared to your misdemeanour
That conviction should be against the law (unless it's outside a school, where it would have been a 20 or 30 limit anyway). You should have been praised for keeping the traffic moving according to the road conditions.Good work!
I got done a couple of weeks ago for doing 46 in a 40... not very exciting compared to your misdemeanour
Didn't Lenny Henry have a cop character that used to do that?
Cheers..
Jase
Oh no, here we go again! You've just opened the TZUK handbag cabinet there!
:)
One of the things Brits excel at are being self-righteous. Let's see who bites.
How's this for inappropriate speed limits....Good work!
I got done a couple of weeks ago for doing 46 in a 40... not very exciting compared to your misdemeanour
I got done last week on this piece of road exiting the Mersey tunnel 36 in a 30 (I thought it was a 40)
Scam van circled in red....No schools, no houses, no pedestrians, and a 3 lane road...
The best bit is I wasn't driving my 450bhp Mustang....oh no I was in the wife's little 1.0 Yaris....��
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Had he been drifting outside a school but still below the speed limit should it be a problem? I think people who know how to drift tend to have much better car control than those who don't. Plus it helps get school children interested in cars. Car magazines always show shots of cars drifting on the public road, perhaps they should be encouraged to pay the fines people get for having a go themselves!
I remember a car journalist saying he was drifting something (I think a Lexus) round a roundabout in the middle of the night and suddenly some blue lights came on, shortly followed by a 5-series police car which proceeded to also drift round the roundabout and then drive off. The authorities should encourage people to explore their car's limits and know how to react when they do lose grip.
"A man of little significance"
i’ll indulge you.
drive on the road like a tosser then expect to pay a fine or have to deal with he consequences when it ‘goes a bit wrong’.
(speaking as somebody who has seen the aftermath of some spirited driving and its effect on a family members lifelong health prospects, all down to somebody wanting to get the back out on a capri for ‘a bit of fun’)
I agree. Drive stupidly then you deserve to get done. I just object to the absolute nature of this particular law. Bear in mind I'm referring to relaxer's fine, not drifting round a roundabout. Road conditions should be taken into account and if a warning would suffice then give a warning. Doing a few mph above the limit on an empty road does not warrant a penalty as draconian as we have in this country.
At least I was offered a Speed Awareness course so not too bad in the end. Didn't really think it was excessive (an empty country road before a 30 zone and into a village) but hey ho the law is law etc etc.
Does nobody ever remember driving fast/spirited when they were young? I'm sure I'm not the only one that remembers the days when driving could be a source of enjoyment. Nowadays it's nothing but boring, slow, drudgery. I suppose that's why modern cars have so much multimedia rubbish in them - to try keep the drivers occupied and awake as they crawl up the road at a 'safe' speed behind a line of traffic similarly crawling along.
^ This. Why would you do this when 2 cops are behind you. Asking for trouble IMHO.
Stuart
I remember those days, not that long ago either. The fun I had borrowing my mum's Micra. No particular place to go, just out for a drive. There's still some of than in me, hence an EVO-X, but most of the time it is more of a case of "do I have to drive to xxxxxxx" rather than wanting to. I think it all starts when you begin to commute to work, the car is no longer freedom and fun, it's just a tool to transport you to your paymasters.
The limit is 60 kmh there so I was way within the limit.
Problem is that what the officer of the law declares is evidence.
The cops where in the shade under a roofing at the side of the restaurand across the road. I saw them pull out when a 100 yards on. They can´t have seen me. Just heard me and since I was the only car about filled in the rest.
Just bad luck and the injustice of tax collectors in green being always right. Stiil have a cool fine though!
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Exactly.
If there are two cops on bikes within six feet of the bumper, it's not an empty road is it?
Or am I missing something?
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
Most blokes here will get themselves in a stress because I just about always drive BELOW the speed limit
I have no hurry and enjoy driving. Spirited drifting too when the circumstances permit, just not fast as my daily is a nearly 2 ton off road vehicle and speed with that thing potentially kills. Hence this being the first traffic fine ove some 300K kms in 17 years! I wonder how many of the self righteous good folk here have managed that.
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Obviously.
That is a tricky one as this is basically proof of an infraccion unlees there is a disclaimer that it was performed by professional drivers on a closed road.
If I would put a video of me drifting my car on the public road on youtube the law would find me very quickly.
It is all coming to an end anyway as there are ever more helicopters and even drones as eyes from the sky watching our driving to tax any ´misbehavior´. Take a sip from a bottle while driving and they will dock you. Even picking your nose will cost you.
Smoking is allowed though. That generates a lot of tax income.
be glad it was the local police and not the Guardia civil, no sense of humour, you would have got locked up
Were you fined a weeks' wages? Isn't that the new system now?Good work!
I got done a couple of weeks ago for doing 46 in a 40... not very exciting compared to your misdemeanour
Isn't that only for 'silly' speeds?
It was the boys in green as I wrote.
The local police don´t bother me with this. They actually are doing a good policing job, not just collecting.
This morning they were telling customers in shops at the town square to move their cars blocking the traffic instead of simply taking photos and sending fines later like the State´s armed forces do.
So similar to UK policing now. Unless there's money to be made then they don't bother but do 31mph in a 30 zone and they're onto you like a ton of......
I don't understand this. Sure, if you have to drive on motorways every day or whatever, but it's not that difficult to have fun in cars. I used to commute up the M3 to work every day but lived about 10 miles from the motorway. I didn't take the most direct route everyone else took, I had two or three alternative routes on lovely country roads that may not have been any slower, bearing in mind they were almost always empty and the direct route carried a lot of traffic. I drive my wife's 69bhp 1.2-litre Fiat 500, which weighs over 1,000kg (!) on a regular basis and love it, so much fun keeping it at speed, or doing long, drawn out run-ups to overtake and so on. Last weekend I was up early for an entirely pointless drive in another car, and tonight I'll decide which car (I'm lucky that I have a choice of four cars at the moment) I'm taking out for a 10-mile drive, with three or four possible routes to take, all of which will be mostly empty and likely covered at speed.
The fun and drives are there if you look for them, perhaps it's just you that's changed. Alternatively have more fun at lower speed with an... MX-5!
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"A man of little significance"
I was up in N Wales on Sunday, Capel Curig, and saw at least 60 sensibly parked cars on the side of the road....every one with a parking ticket tucked behind the wiper....
So well done N Wales councils for being so mean spirited and encouraging visitors to the area with a needless parking fine.....
Could have been up to 75% of weekly income, which would have been harsh:
These are court appearances only guidelines, regular points and fines and speed awareness courses are still the norm.Could have been up to 75% of weekly income, which would have been harsh:
In other words, if you're not a serial offender and just get caught out once, it's business as usual? So what was all the fuss about when they were announced?
The higher you pee up the wall, the more likely it is that you will get wet! :)
Cool story bro.
It's nice they let them have internet access in these secure psychiatric wings.
It's a different ball-game thesedays....those of us who are 'of a certain age' have to accept that. Driving has become a drudge ; congested roads, traffic lights everywhere, speed limits that are enforced without discretion (some of which do defy logic), complicated traffic systems in most towns, lack of car parking spaces, crazy prices for parking,.....I could go on. We've also got modern cars that are too specialised for the DIY mechanic to work on, which drives up the cost of motoring.
Owning a powerful car simply amplifies the frustration because you can`t drive it to it's full potential. Much as I like cars that perform well I`m starting to see the futility of performance; what's the point in having a car that'll do 160mph and accelerate to 60 in 5 seconds? It would've been a hoot 30 years ago but in 2017 it's almost pointless unless you like track days etc.
I get more fun from driving my 1970 MGB; even with a mildly uprated engine it'll still struggle to hit 60 in much under 10 seconds, but it can be driven to it's full potential in many situations and it oozes character in a way that the modern stuff doesn't. If it wasn`t for the pleasure of owning and running a classic I could cheerfully give up driving tomorrow, wifey could do all the driving and I really wouldn`t care.
Paul
I reckon in 20 years, human beings won't be allowed to drive on public roads - it will be driverless only. Humans will be allowed to drive 'for sport' only on certain courses.
Also, most people won't 'own' cars - they will be leased per mile from a business that will be cross between a car manufacturer, leasing company and an Uber type services company.
You break the law, you pay the fine. Only person who is at fault for speeding is the driver. Whether you agree with the speed limit (or any other law for that matter) is another issue entirely. Getting tired of people blaming everybody else...
Isn't the whole point of some new cars like the GT86 that they break traction earlier? The one I took out for a test drive squealed the tyres around every corner, when any mildly engined/Tyred modern hatch back would have handled the same corner without any additional noise.
It's just a matter of time...
Yep, dunno.
Cheers..
Jase
Yup, going slowly sideways.
More fun safer.
The point is however that any copper who sees it will still fine you for dangerous driving even when you are way under the speed limit and not at all driving dangerously. Because it´s a copper he can make it stick.
Interesting comment, love to be able to check back here in 20 yrs to see whether you're correct!
Most blokes here will get themselves in a stress because I just about always drive BELOW the speed limit
I have no hurry and enjoy driving. Spirited drifting too when the circumstances permit, just not fast as my daily is a nearly 2 ton off road vehicle and speed with that thing potentially kills. Hence this being the first traffic fine ove some 300K kms in 17 years! I wonder how many of the self righteous good folk here have managed that.
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Obviously.
Out of interest, do you also get points? Or just a fine?
Probably some points too but as my license is virgin I don´t care. Nothing I can do about any of it anyway; from the policing used as a source of income by the State to the injust application of it. All I can do is optimise the fun in driving.
you keep insisting there is nothing you can do about it. Can you not contest the ticket with the help of good specialist council? If you are that convinced you were caught 'bang to rights' what's the problem?
I'm not in favour of excessive speeding any longer, yes I've had up to 6 points on my license at one time. In both instances i was deserving of the fine and took my lumps without complaint 35 in a 30 during school holidays, so i deserved that, and 85 in a 70 with 3 bikes on the back of the car so again, deserving.
I lost a close family member to overexuberence on a motorbike round country lanes, since then I've stuck to within 10% of the speed limit and am doubly careful where visibility is limited although this was ingrained early on due to growing up in a field surrounded village where visibility was restricted by high hedges and the blind corner could reveal a tractor taking up both lanes.
He did it in front of two coppers and then admitted it. When faced with a stupidity tax, you'd have to be a complete idiot to ask for an audit.
I may as well be the one to say it; Pics or it never happened! Sounds like we'd all get a laugh out of reading their comment.
That's what I was thinking, a bit hard to contest when the coppers were "2 meters off his bumper" (even though the road was apparently empty.....)
The Michelin Primacies fitted to the GT86 will break away very easily, but not very predictably. On a wet roundabout, that's fine, but when they break away when you're accelerating in a straight line (admittedly fairly hard, on a slip road joining a motorway), that was a bit more excitement than I really wanted.
Put a set of Yokohama V105S's on and the car is much better for it.
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