Morning all
Just had our extension built so now looking to lay flooring
In the kitchen diner area. I'm thinking amtico or jar dean but it's very
Expensive at around £60 per sq' m fitted
The mrs doesn't want tiles so it kind of narrows our options
Anyone had Experiance or amtico or Karndean ?
Cheers andy
We have just had it laid in our kitchen and hall. What would you like to know?
What did you go for ? There seems to be different qualities and prices in each make ?Originally Posted by barreti
Amtico is not worth the money imo. The show house we visited had Amtico in the hall and kitchen diner area. They had placed a smallish couch in the kitchen and you could see a lot of wear and scratches where the cleaners had moved the couch to clean behind it.
In the end we chose Quick Step Exquisa and it has been very good.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=qu...uGu5C01c3XbRM:
those in the know will use Quick Step, quality on par with any other flooring company/system and affordable.
I have it all over my house, wife and daughter in high heels, dog and a cat, 3 kids, 5 years later not a mark anywhere.
Had Karndean down for 2 years now in our sun-room, and it's like new. Great product.
The fitter who did our work said that he fits all types of flooring and he said we had made the right choice. Don't be fooled in to thinking that by paying more you will get a superior product as this might not be the case.
IIRC it's all traffic related. Our fitter and the web confirmed the higher range Karndean was similarly rated to the lower Amtico and more than adequate for high traffic areas in a private residential property. We identified an indie fitter and bought the flooring etc via the web at his recommendation and because that was a fair bit cheaper than the local flooring shops would do it all for. Recall we ended up c£60psm which was c2x engineered flooring but there was no prospect of it warping in the sunlight, it's warmish to walk on, especially on the older wood floors, easy to vacuum/wash (using the karndean cleaning concentrate) and looks pretty good (your fitter should vary the pattern as there's a limited number of variations but again it's no biggie). You get what you pay for is probably a fair assessment of my research at the time. If only Eddie did flooring....
Karndean, top of range, 5yrs ago. Laid by a qualified fitter on a mix of floorboards and concrete floors in a sun room, kitchen/diner and hallway. Still looks as good today as then. Had considered wood and engineered flooring but can't fault it so thoroughly recommended.
Have a look at Polyfloor, a fraction of the price.
Karndean for us expensive but worth it.
We went for this, been down four years looks like new.
Bit like the cola challenge who can tell the difference.
Another thumbs up for Karndean, very happy with ours.
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Agreed.
Although we got the price right down by ordering it online. I then laid it myself, it's really not that difficult if the sub floor is good. I think we paid less than £30ms for 1000sqft.
[edit] Here's a picture of one of the rooms nearly finished, looks good I think. The floor is Karndean 'Spring Oak'.
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There's some cheaper options about and like a previous comment,it's not that hard to do yourself
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We're about to go ahead with the cheaper of the two Amtico options. As long as it is fitted by an accredited fitter you get a 15 year warranty (lifetime on the more expensive range) and that's what has swung it for us. It's also made in the UK, which, IMO, is significant bonus.
I wouldn't touch Amtico ever, ever again.
We went for three different styles from their Spacia range in our new build property. As most will be aware, sub-floor preparation is critical. Unfortunately, our house builder was running a tight schedule (aren't they always) and corners were cut. We had Amtico tiles that were not glued down properly at the edges of two of the three bathrooms as the sub-floor was not completely flat.
The kitchen now has a perceptible ripple running perpendicular to the broken bond tiles. We had it assessed by another fitter who felt it was due to inadequate care taken in filling the joins in the ply sub-floor.
The living room also has perceptible bubbles and ripples due to the house settling slightly. There is also a 6mm gap around the edge of one wall due to the above.
You might say what's this got to do with Amtico? It was the builder or the fitter's fault. Yes, that's partially true and I was refunded all the costs of the flooring plus compensation for my time and distress caused. However, when I raised the matter with Amtico in an attempt to bring to their attention that one of their accredited fitters had done such a poor job, they absolutely were not interested one bit. Don't count on that '10 year warranty' or whatever it is they offer as being particularly meaningful if my experience of their after sales is anything to go by.
I would avoid this type of flooring like the plague. It's just too dependent on the sub-floor being laid, and remaining, 100% true for it to be worth it.
Next time I will tile the wet rooms and go for engineered wood flooring in the living spaces for sure. At the end of the day it's just posh lino that costs a fortune for what it is.
I don't like and would never use any variant of Lino or vinyl flooring, sorry but to me they all look cheap, including the expensive and "branded" ones. Give me hardwood, natural stone, encaustic or porcelain tiles any day. But just to take issue with this comment, any and every hard floor finish is obviously dependent on a properly constructed and prepared subfloor.
We used a slate-effect in the bathroom of our old flat and for that small area/limited use it seemed fine. It's nice and warm on the feet!
However in our new place, the previous owner laid bleached wood-effect Amtico in the kitchen and for a 2 year-old floor it's showing its age quite markedly, especially where table/chairs are, though not quite bad enough to replace. Additionally the wife dropped a knife and obviously it landed point down - so there's now a permanent small nick in that section of floor.
Based on that experience I'd go for tiling for kitchens or wood for large living areas in future, though my preference is always to sand/seal floorboards when available.
That is exactly what I have had done in the last year, tiles in kitchen and bathrooms, engineered wood everywhere else
Bws
Franco, Sheffield
Karen in the Kitchen 2014, and now in our conservatory last year, been brilliant would use again. Both still look like new
Had Amtico down for 10 years, and still looks like new. Extremely hard wearing.
Definitely amtico over karndean , have a look at quickstep and parador , these 2 brands offer the newer click system vinyl floors and may give another option over the other 2 brands
Another vote for Amtico. Had it in the bathrooms in the last 3 houses, and no problems.
Moduleo is another good option.
Think ours was the Impress which is quite textured so the dog doesn't slide into the walls :-)
Moduleo also do a click system but the glued down gives a better finish.
TLC is another great brand of vinyl , its very hard wearing and they have a great colour range , they offer all the colours in click lock system or stick down vinyl , but if your sticking the vinyl down the sub floor needs to literally be like glass level but i agree stick down is better and floating click system as long as the subfloor is level
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