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    2017 CWC SBS

    Information post for those it may concern.
    Just acquired a mk2 SBS and am currently giving it
    "sea trials" on a beach in the Caribbean.
    A few points of interest:
    Lume is incredible! Even better than it used to be on previous SL dials
    Perhaps they are using more/better/different SL but it's like a torch and easily as good as the wonderful Omega 2254's.
    Date wheel is in English/French.
    First of these I have seen, all previous have been Spanish.
    Case back has added script. "CABOT WATCH COMPANY " and "SAPPHIRE"
    NSN and pheon is still proper engraved but the added script and the
    issue number, year and "WATERRESISTANT 30ATM" is now acid etched...
    Cheaper, presumably.
    Haven't had chance to spin the back off yet to confirm if they are still
    supplied with movement covers, have read somewhere they had stopped.





    White dots visible on crystal are from phone case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Wall View Post
    Information post for those it may concern.
    Just acquired a mk2 SBS and am currently giving it
    "sea trials" on a beach in the Caribbean.
    A few points of interest:
    Lume is incredible! Even better than it used to be on previous SL dials
    Perhaps they are using more/better/different SL but it's like a torch and easily as good as the wonderful Omega 2254's.
    Date wheel is in English/French.
    First of these I have seen, all previous have been Spanish.
    Case back has added script. "CABOT WATCH COMPANY " and "SAPPHIRE"
    NSN and pheon is still proper engraved but the added script and the
    issue number, year and "WATERRESISTANT 30ATM" is now acid etched...
    Cheaper, presumably.
    Haven't had chance to spin the back off yet to confirm if they are still
    supplied with movement covers, have read somewhere they had stopped.





    White dots visible on crystal are from phone case...

    Looks good, the sapphire looks less reflective than the G10 sapphire which looks pretty poor. As to dust covers my old 2012 sbs didn't have one.

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    Funnily, I had a 2014 that did...
    The crystal was sapphire too but it had a blue hue to it.
    This new one is gin clear.

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    faraday cage ( movement cover like you say) hs not been in these watches for many many years

    my 2012 does not have one

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    Received my 2017 CWC SBS yesterday. The bezel action is the best I've had on a CWC. No play what so ever. Smashing watch.


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    Had time to spin the back off today.
    Confirmed no "faraday" cover
    New black plastic movement spacer/holder with in built battery retainer.


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    Interested in seeing a lume shot as you rate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Interested in seeing a lume shot as you rate it!
    Cwc lume on the RN divers is insanely good since switching to superluminova.

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    Photo bucket is still playing up but have managed to load two pics.
    From a sunny kitchen into a pitch dark laundry room.
    Then after five minutes.




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    Is the serial + year really acid etched or more likely laser engraved ??

    Same on the Pulsar G10 : older were engraved, newer looks laser etched...

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    Wow, realy nice watch.
    I know it's probably not correct concerned the history of the watch but I would love to see that version with an automatic movement.

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    They now do a black auto diver with date. Exactly the same watch but without the day function.

    https://www.cwcwatch.com/products/cw...mk-2-with-date


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbyf View Post
    They now do a black auto diver with date. Exactly the same watch but without the day function.

    https://www.cwcwatch.com/products/cw...mk-2-with-date


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    I had no idea the price had gone up that much,nice looking watch though.

    Edit I just notice this one

    https://www.cwcwatch.com/products/re...iver-automatic

    Which led to this good write up.

    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/cw...ced-the-milsub
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    What's the verdict on CWC divers? Still worth the money?? I been looking more at getting a quartz and deciding whether to get preowned or new. Some of the preowned I have seen have been quite highly priced but I suspect because they were ex-issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogdensnut View Post
    What's the verdict on CWC divers? Still worth the money?? I been looking more at getting a quartz and deciding whether to get preowned or new. Some of the preowned I have seen have been quite highly priced but I suspect because they were ex-issue.


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    If it's getting a bit of hammer, gshock alternative ? I'd say buy used and keep it. If not it's just another watch. No idea if it's worth it
    I like the look and the fixed bars. Surprised you didn't jump in the Zeno group buy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    If it's getting a bit of hammer, gshock alternative ? I'd say buy used and keep it. If not it's just another watch. No idea if it's worth it
    I like the look and the fixed bars. Surprised you didn't jump in the Zeno group buy
    Zeno group buy? What's that?? I'm new on here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogdensnut View Post
    Zeno group buy? What's that?? I'm new on here.


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    Sorry I didn't notice that !

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    Zeno group buy.

    Send me a pm. Happy to fill you in...250 instead of

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    I've tried to find the specs for the Zeno diver (PRS3?). Are they the same as the Broadarrow- sapphire crystal, Quartz Ronda and luminova (despite having a 'T' on the face). How does it compare to the CWC? I realise it's quite a bit cheaper but wondered if the similar quality. It certainly looks very similar!! Cheers


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    PRS-3 and PRS-4

    Case: Stainless steel case with screw back and screw down crown. PRS-3 finish is mixed brushed and polished PRS-4 is PVD.

    Bezel: Unidirectional with 60 clicks.

    Dimensions: Diameter = 39 mm across the bezel, 45 mm across the case to the tip of the protected crown, 47 mm lug tip to tip and 11.45 mm thick. Lug spacing is 20 mm.

    Movement: Ronda 715Li lithium powered with 10 year battery life 5 jewel Swiss Made version with gilt movement.

    W/R: 300 Metres

    Crystal: Sapphire.

    Dial: Available in Black or Orange.

    An optional bracelet was available for the PRS-3

    # Produced: 150 in S/S, 150 in PVD in each dial color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogdensnut View Post
    I've tried to find the specs for the Zeno diver (PRS3?). Are they the same as the Broadarrow- sapphire crystal, Quartz Ronda and luminova (despite having a 'T' on the face). How does it compare to the CWC? I realise it's quite a bit cheaper but wondered if the similar quality. It certainly looks very similar!! Cheers


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    some prefer them to cwc. I think they are as good. If id not just bought a cwc I'd defiantly try to get in on James group buy. Bargain imo.

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    I read that some some owners felt the fit and feel weren't quite as good as the CWC. Looks wise there's little in it. Just a shame I can't 'try before I buy'. Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogdensnut View Post
    I read that some some owners felt the fit and feel weren't quite as good as the CWC. Looks wise there's little in it. Just a shame I can't 'try before I buy'. Lol


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    I live in Leicester.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogdensnut View Post
    I read that some some owners felt the fit and feel weren't quite as good as the CWC. Looks wise there's little in it. Just a shame I can't 'try before I buy'. Lol


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    Perhaps I can help. I'm on the opposite side of your coin. I bought one of the pvd zenos as I've wanted a cwc sbs but couldn't stomach the price!

    The zeno, as said above, looks the part. The pvd finish is flawless. It wears well. However, the 60 click bezel isn't the most accurate. Sloppy. You can get it right on 12...but it'll creep off centre. Also, the second hand is off on mine, by around 1/5s of each mark and up to 1/2 a second off in places.

    For 200, don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining.... But I am wondering if a cwc has a flawless bezel and more accurately positioned second hand. Can I justify the extra? Probably not. The zeno wears REALLY nicely and really, do i NEED the seconds hand on the lines? No.

    (ps: I'd probably still buy a used CWC SBS if it was the right price... which is doubtful with how the prices have risen this past while)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyE View Post
    Perhaps I can help. I'm on the opposite side of your coin. I bought one of the pvd zenos as I've wanted a cwc sbs but couldn't stomach the price!

    The zeno, as said above, looks the part. The pvd finish is flawless. It wears well. However, the 60 click bezel isn't the most accurate. Sloppy. You can get it right on 12...but it'll creep off centre. Also, the second hand is off on mine, by around 1/5s of each mark and up to 1/2 a second off in places.

    For 200, don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining.... But I am wondering if a cwc has a flawless bezel and more accurately positioned second hand. Can I justify the extra? Probably not. The zeno wears REALLY nicely and really, do i NEED the seconds hand on the lines? No.

    (ps: I'd probably still buy a used CWC SBS if it was the right price... which is doubtful with how the prices have risen this past while)
    That's muddied the waters a bit but thanks for replying. I'm keeping an eye out for a used CWC Quartz (ideally mk2) to see what they go for. I think the rrp is rather steep.


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