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Also agreed, Jimmy thanks for your post. I enjoyed the story :)Originally Posted by davida
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I'm going to chip in and vote : the Explorer 1. Having no date and no bezel makes for a simple no nonense face A great pick up and go watch. If you have a chance to try on the two sizes for fit - make your own mind up. There is no substitute for checking which fits your own wrist.
All the best
Martyn
That's my vote too! Classic and will hold/appreciate in value. IMHO.I picked this up a couple of months ago for under £3k, it wears very nicely with a suit as a daily but too small for me as a casual watch.
Gold datejust on a lizard strap.
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I love how we think of Rolex as "mid-range" on here!
To almost everyone I know, a Rolex is seen as the last word in expensive watches. Certainly anything over £200 would be deemed expensive, especially when "you can just look at the time on your phone".
You could approach this 'backwards'. Start by deciding what you are actually prepared to spend, then survey the full range of Rolex watches available for that sum. Buy the best sample, regardless of which model...as long as you like it of course. In truth, they are all Oyster Perpetuals of one kind or another.ideally, it will have proof of a service.
Or just buy a basic new Oyster Perpetual. Five year guarantee, a watch for a lifetime. That would be my choice. Grey face dial.
£4150 RRP so only very slightly over budget and surely reachable.
You could probably pick up a used one for around £3500.
A novel concept- How about buy the one you like?
Sorry, I don't have any pseudo intellectual psychobabble to justify my recommendation but it usually works- I.e buying what you like instead of listening to advice of others who are more preoccupied with justifying their own choices and putting down others'.
I agree totally with the above. Seems crazy to purchase something because of its VFM unless you are looking at an investment piece and that is probably another exam question altogether
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The best value is likely to be the least popular model.
Same Rolex quality and movement but a less popular design/model.
How about this? A 1980's Datejust with a lovely linen dial, jubilee and an oyster bracelet to get 2 very different looks for around £2.5k
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That looks pretty cool :)How about this? A 1980's Datejust with a lovely linen dial, jubilee and an oyster bracelet to get 2 very different looks for around £2.5k
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Buy a speedmaster
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Got one of those already:)Buy a speedmaster
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Yes please!How about this? A 1980's Datejust with a lovely linen dial, jubilee and an oyster bracelet to get 2 very different looks for around £2.5k
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I say, that looks lovely. Sucker for a vintage piece too.How about this? A 1980's Datejust with a lovely linen dial, jubilee and an oyster bracelet to get 2 very different looks for around £2.5k
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Out of interest what is going rate for OysterQuartz these days?
Seem to be about £2k upwards for a runner. Champagne James recently sold one that had had nearly £2k spent on a service!
My vote is Exp II - have one & very nice it is too :-)
In my opinion, an explorer II 16570 would be a more than decent option, either with white or black dial.
That is stunning and cracking value!How about this? A 1980's Datejust with a lovely linen dial, jubilee and an oyster bracelet to get 2 very different looks for around £2.5k
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Oh well - one more on the WTB list!
Another EXP-II vote. Perfect first sports Rolex at virtually half the price of a Sub with a more interesting dial (IMO obviously) either in the white or black iteration. I actually prefer the 42mm Planet Ocean to either to be honest but if you want to dip your toe in the Rolex pond without having to sell your first born then a 16570 is the way forward.
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That's a lovely dial, first I've seen of a Linen dialHow about this? A 1980's Datejust with a lovely linen dial, jubilee and an oyster bracelet to get 2 very different looks for around £2.5k
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If Explorer IIs are in the OP's budget, what's going on with this one from Chronomaster?
http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/new/wa...-2017/rol-677/
Is it a different version?
Another vote for the 14060M.. I just picked one up in great condition (see my older posts) so definitely out there and in your range. If you're looking for one watch to wear on all occasions - this could be it.
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Of course it is. It looks completely different to the 16570 people are posting. This is a Explorer II 1655 (or Steve McQueen) very sought after and quite rare.
And at that price quite cheap compared to some I've seen at £20k+
I love this watch for being a great example of how rarity happens and the knock on effect on prices once it's discontinued.
Why does it cost so much more? Because it's so rare, relatively.
Why is it so rare? Because its limited functionality didn't, er, didn't have mass appeal. Decades later, the watch the market rejected for being Not Very Useful, now costs far far more - and since people's tastes are so guided by prevailing fashions, the whole thing escalates.
Of course, its looking so good help too. (But really, a slaved 24 hour hand and a fixed bezel...?)
What about a yacht master? They seem to be about £1000 less than a similar aged sub.
Really handsome that is!How about this? A 1980's Datejust with a lovely linen dial, jubilee and an oyster bracelet to get 2 very different looks for around £2.5k
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Me too Jimmy, thank you.
I just don't see the point in being so bloody rude, particularly to newbies.
Ah, for some reason most photo sharing websites are blocked by my company's network, so I've not seen them to compare. I see the same name, and assume it must be the same (or least a similar) watch. Also Neil's page doesn't mention it's a special edition unless you read a huge wadge of text.
Another vote for the linen Datejust here... you can also get some more unusual colours in the linen dial if you look around
Chaps,
What would you say a fair price is for (1) a Rolex Explorer 2 16570, and (2) a Rolex Explorer 114270, with box and papers and recently serviced?
Just look on Watchfinder and then adjust a bit if it is a private sale with no warranty.
Are the Watchfinder prices reasonable?
Try any second hand dealer website. Watches.co.uk watchfinder.co.uk etc etc for guide prices.
If your looking to buy - it all depends how much you want to buy them! If you are selling to them they will buy from you at perhaps 1/2 the sale price.
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Thanks, I have extensively. I am asking more what people tend to actually pay - the asking price from these types of sellers, or is there a target reduction %?
Not sure if it is easy to negotiate on Rolexes than other brands.
Chances are you'll be buying from those places, so...
If you give it a go you will find out.
Phone some dealers who have a watch you fancy, discuss it a bit then ask what they can do to improve the price, usually there is a bit of give but don't expect more that perhaps £200 until you have a bit of a track record.
Loving the classy Linen faced Rolex.
Bet it would be awesome on some nice leather straps. Different feel and look. Say a Grey one, then a black calf skin one. Ooooo the options ❤️
Michael
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Hi guys, seems like £3400-£3800 is the going rate with reputable dealers for an Explorer 114270 with box and (1) original papers and/or (2) a Rolex service card (following a recent service). Not much wiggle room on price so far.
For the same price, you can get an Explorer 2 16570, which hasn't been recently serviced and which comes with or without box and often without papers. It seems like it is somewhere above budget for an Explorer 2 with recent service.
I'm leaning towards the 114270 as that was my original dream watch, and the fact there are newly Rolex serviced models out there.
Do those prices seem fair value?
Seems about right to me.
Good, I think Explorer 114270s just serviced by Rolex are the way forward for me.
Good luck finding one, or get one without service and factor the service price in.
There are so many unnecessary rude comments on here. The forum is about watches and anything said about watches is appropriate.
Really hope this doesn't become one of those "you can comment on anything, as long as it's positive" sort of places.
Hi guys, another follow up...
I am also looking at a 1987 Datejust 16030 with Austin Kaye, box and papers inc, recently serviced by Rolex and "refurbished back to original condition". They want £3,795, which feels high.
It's my 30th this year, so would be a birth year watch (which I guess adds something for me).
Any thoughts on this, or experience with Austin Kaye?
Cheers
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I'm no expert but that does feel too high price wise. I've never been too fussed about birth year watches though. Have a look at miltonaires.com for what I think are good retail prices.
It is rather minty complete with service stickers on but as has been said, possibly a little high. Make them an offer - they can only say No.
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