Get some!
Get some!
That would be much fun.
Seen this one a few times and does kind of look quite good fun!!
Must get the adrenaline going for both sides although I suspect the pirates quite quickly realised they may have made a mistake however a little too late!!
They need the assault rifles to stop them then something a lot bigger to blow the boat out of the water once it's immobilised!!
Chris
More so with M61 Vulcans or even better, shipboard mounted GAU-8's (Goalkeeper), that would give these parasites something special to think about!Originally Posted by -Ally-
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34095843
Doesn't always work out well for the contractors, and the pirates here look like the bosses!
£3k a month? Doesn't seem much for such a risky line of work
And all the dead pirates you can eat of course
Seriously?
I'd be more concerned about the total lack of professional skills shown by the operatives in this film.
The arc of fire for the main "shooter" includes the lower deck and his oppo!
I think it safe to say his Special Ops experience is restricted to Call of Duty.
I watched it and that was the very first thing I thought of :)
You have to remember that Somali pirates are desperate and only paid something like $200 a pop to hijack the ship. I think it would take a certain mentality to be ok with killing someone like that.
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so if they were paid more?...........
Whats the alternative ?
This was a thread saying it looked fun. I'm not arguing that it isn't necessary I'm saying I wouldn't want to do it.
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Were I confronted by a bunch of these characters in a small boat firing their AK-47's up at me, ask me if I would return fire with what heavy weaponry I had available or would I ponder moral issues and think slowly and deeply about the 'yuman rites' of this shower trying to kill me?
A coconut for the first correct answer!
You would return fire with whatever heavy weaponry you had available.
Please raffle the coconut for the fundraiser.
One would hope that you'd have taken it into account before deciding to go on pirate patrol.
If Somalian Pirates attack a ship- owned or chartered to a UK company, Registered in UK, or with any UK crew onboard...............
1,500 Somalians and their families (naturalised UK citizens or not) - are rounded up, assets siezed - and they are shipped back to Somalia (using their assets to pay the fares).
every time.
The following year - a kind of "Index-linking" should be applied - and 2,000 should be exported on each occasion.
And so on..................
If every country adopts this (non-violent) response - pretty soon all Somalians will be back in Somalia.
(It has been asked of me before - "What good would that do?" )
What harm would it do????
Piracy was ignored for decades while people and governments viewed it as a kind of "hazard of being a seafarer"...................... Air travel got much more attention.
So you'd punish the innocent for the actions of the pirates? Certainly "non violent" and probably "non quite a lot of other things besides". Intelligent being one of them.
So ship back a lot of disenfranchised Somalis who had the sense to get out who then have no alternative but to turn to crime? Genius. This round up/burn down their village of those with a notional link to the perpetrator approach has been tried before elsewhere, all over Europe. It didn't work long term.
A bit of a generalisation, but a Met Policeman friend of mine said that the Somali criminal population in London are the nastiest, ruthless, horrible people he has ever had to deal with.
Unless it's their families being deported, not some random Somalis, why should they care?
I think that any time you have to use the expression 'round up' to refer to arbitrarily chosen members of a wider group, you really have to question your own humanity.
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I don't think there's a meaningful reply to this that can be given outside the BP.
Are they desperate or are they much like the rest of the world after a quick buck?
does look fun. Imagine the children asking where daddy is and what's for dinner at the end of the day. Hilarious.
Only talked to two people with intimate knowledge of it (mates an exec at a massive shipping company and a marine who was deployed there) and they both say its desperation. Somalia isn't exactly a country where the poor have opportunity. I believe that to make the hunt 'fun' you have to look at who is recruiting them and brokering the return of the ships rather than those who are treated as cannon fodder.
Christ I sound like a hippy, I'm not, I'm massively capitalist. However, a recent trip to India opened my eyes to the true exploitation of those with nothing and having had a rather fortunate 32 years on this earth (own a well performing company, partner in a new consultancy, own a house outright, girlfriend's a good person and a lawyer, so she's basically a unicorn), it was a proper reality check as to how these things aren't all black and white.
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I think they are mostly black.
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Not saying don't return fire, just saying the ethos in which it has been presented here is overly simplistic and quite distasteful to me.
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Both?
The average salary in Somalia is $200 - so a few raids a month and by local standards you are earning a lot of money.
Obviously you have to live to spend it...
Just wondering on the legality of being able to fire on the pirates? I guess it comes under self defence, are there rules of engagement? I'm not questioning the action, go for it as far as I'm concerned, just curious as to if it's legal to have a free for all out there.
Cheers..
Jase
It's that far out to sea who is going to enforce the law, which government is responsible, and who really cares. If it were me doing the shooting and killing I would not worry about being bought to book. I would think the Captain of the ship is the law.
So if people are desperate then they should be allowed to hold people hostage and make threats to kill?
I consider these people, who use weaponry up to RPGs, to be highly dangerous and would have no problem shooting at them.
Nobody, no matter how desperate has the right to take anyone hostage when all they are doing is going about their lawful business
Chennai Six
Has anyone seen this story about 6 ex-military ships guards ?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b00768ddcf0413
I know a ship's captain quite well and he told me that areas around Indonesia were much more dangerous than the gulf. The pirates are wealthier and much more heavily armed.
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