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Looks as though Steinhart may start selling 39mm versions of its Ocean watches from sometime this summer. Good news for those who find their typically flat lugs too unwieldy.
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I'm drooling!
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Very sensible marketing on the part of Steinhart. A lot of people on here alone have stated that their 42mm watches are too big.
A most welcome move
That's good news, I liked my Steinharts but they were too large for me. A slightly smaller model is going to be very tempting.
How did you find them, size-wise? Do you still have any?Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner
Finally! I'm definitely back in the Gunter camp if they do this.
Steinhart make superb watches, ruined by the unwieldy cases.
A GMT blue/red and an Ocean Vintage GMT please
Size wise I was fine with them, after all they are the same size as a Speedmaster and plenty of people on here own them. I have had a clearout now after having 7 different ones at one point. They are great watches.
I wonder if that's indicative of a wider industry trend?
Great news.
I believe it is beginning to. Or at least I would like to believe it :-)
A good move.Could be tempted to pick up a GMT.
Ocean One titanium 500 at 39mm. I'm there.
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It was always more an issue with the flat lugs than out and out size. I took this pic when selling my Ocean 1 Ceramic to show the buyer. This is on a 7" wrist:
Very much looking forward to this.
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Many moons ago I used to own an Ocean GMT, the excessive size was the main driver for selling it on.
Perhaps a reflection of the fact that more women are wearing dive watches these days:-)
interesting.....i'd like to see one even though i'm a big wristed heffalump
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You nailed it there... I don't have issue with 42mm but the straight lugs puts me off.It was always more an issue with the flat lugs than out and out size. I took this pic when selling my Ocean 1 Ceramic to show the buyer. This is on a 7" wrist:
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Depending on if they make it, and what they do with the lugs, I could see an OV-GMT being my next purchase.
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I had a limited edition Steinhart Mill Sub take off at 42mm. I stupidly sold it. I did not mind the 42mm but a GMT at 39mm will be a buyer, heck it may become a daily beater ahead of my Rolex Submariner.
The straight lugs should be less of an issue at 39mm.
Well done to Steinhart, they spotted a very obvious gap in the market that Rolex does not fill and with used Rolex increasing in prices the Steinhart is a good alternative.
Having just watched the video I think they have missed the open goal. The bracelet looks too wide at should have been reduced. I am guessing it is 22mm and not 20mm. This means the watch gets a square look like the SubC, not a look that I like.
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The video doesn't show the actual watch. It shows the current model.
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That's certainly great news, and I hope more companies making affordable watches (which are most liable to trends, in this case gigantic sizes over the past five or so years) follow suit - I've seen so many that I liked but I can't do anything with 45mm. Not to mention that most designers have a difficult time hiding the fact that the movement inside was made with a significantly smaller case in mind, so you get a lot of dates almost halfway between the centre and the edge of the dial, or the three chrono dials nested weirdly towards the middle of the dial.
But what would *really* make *me* happy is if Steinhart decided to start making quartz chronographs ... again, actually - they made one a while ago using the Ronda 5040B movement. I'd love the Ocean One Vintage chrono with quartz - just look at the dial graphics, as if they're calling for a Ronda 5030D there. I don't think they're the kind of brand that having quartzes would hurt them, and I bet they could make them as profitably as the automatics if they sold for €350-400, which I think would be fair as long they really put a Ronda in there, and not the increasingly ubiquitous 0s20 ...
As with so many on here, I'd be all over a 39mm GMT
Group buy I reckon!
I hope so👍🏼
So do we think that the legions of WIS finally getting what they wanted will cause a glut of secondhand 42mm models and a collapse of resale values? Maybe I should get mine onto eBay pronto and live without until the summer!
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To be fair, I think the current model is great for anyone with 7" plus wrists. I get away with it because my 6.75" wrists are quite 'flat'. I suspect anyone generous of wrist will be better off with the current model. I turned to squale to fulfill my homage diving needs.
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I'd be in for a Pepsi! Always a good move to offer more choice, and 39mm seems like the best way to go. It suits just about everyone as a size.
Now all they need to do is use a case with more ergonomic lugs (and at 20mm) providing for a more concave fit to the wrist, give an option for acrylic crystal and offer a choice of movements including STP11-1 or SW200 and it's a win!
And lighter.......their GMT is too heavy
A few years back 42mm was my preferred size. I've recently realised the 2 watches i wear most these days are both 39mm.
I'd be all over a 39mm GMT like a tramp on chips.
Doubly ironic as Rolex are just going bigger on their Steinhart homage!
You couldn't make this stuff up! lol :-)
I don't much like the latest "printed" hour markers on the ocean series. The older applied ones were much nicer. Also the Cyclops mag should be improved IMO
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Bear in mind, the ocean series has over 10 different models! Does the ocean 1 not still have applied?
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I would be seriously tempted by the Ocean One Vintage at 39mm
A great move and a GMT at 39 sounds perfect however, I'm going to reserve judgement until I see it on a wrist. It would be a better size for me but the case shape may still not work if it remains the same. Let's see....
Thanks for clarifying. I like the homage to older subs so have not looked at modern interpretations as I have a BLNR and a 16610 Sub.
If that's the one with the milsub style sword hands and minute track all the way round the bezel, so would I! Much better size, every time I have seen a photo of one it looks great but then absurdly large on the wrist.
Just delighted that one watchmaker has halted the march of horological obesity.
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Another thumbs up from me - looks great
I do wonder about the obsession with size so many watch enthusiasts have.
Get a measure of some sort out and hold it at arms length. Does 3mm REALLY make a noticeable difference?
I've got 42mm and 39mm watches (and bigger and smaller) and as far as I'm concerned 3mm is irrelevant...
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I think it's personal and depends on your wrist size. For me it's definitely the lug to lug length, a 47mm Tuna wears fine because the really stubby lugs. Just as I'd rather the Black Bay was 47mm instead of 50mm lug to lug (which is really the absolute upper limit for my wrist), the Ocean Vintage Military would be much more tempting if it were, well, vintage size in both lug to lug length and diameter.
I nearly spluttered my tea everywhere?!!
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I sort of agree but as others have said the lug to lug will be key along with the overall size/design. My instinct tells me the case will still wear flat and be on the large size lug to lug, and so may not make it any more comfortable for someone like me with small wrists. The current model just doesn't work size wise and is the main reason I moved it on. I hope I am wrong.
I have a 42mm Planet Ocean which wears very nicely on my 7inch wrist. I tried a Steinhart and just couldn't get on with it and had discounted them as a future option. It'll be interesting to see what they release.
Wrist size is relevant clearly but so is shape. More rounded wrists struggle I think; flatter wrists, even if smaller, seem to be at an advantage with these. A flat 7.5" and you're laughing!
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Nail,head.
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