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Thread: Are Rolex About to B@st@rdise the Sea-Dweller????

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    Are Rolex About to B@st@rdise the Sea-Dweller????

    These guys are usually pretty good in their predictions, and this is an abortion of a piece being predicted: http://rolexpassionreport.com/20205/...selworld-2017/


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    Surely they wouldn't put a cyclops on a SD - would they???

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtagrant View Post
    Surely they wouldn't put a cyclops on a SD - would they???
    OMG, I hope not!

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    I don't know but I'd like to see a Sea-dweller with Matt dial and bezel insert and optional oysterflex.

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    They've also predicted models with red and blue "SEA-DWELLER" text. This site has been accurate in the past, but they also predict a lot of models that don't come true. The SD has a protruding crystal so it's doubtful they'd add a cyclops, but I guess we'll know in a couple of weeks.

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    Lose the cyclops, and not too bad.

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    That cyclops is a deal breaker for me. I like the red writing, don't like the 43mm size and absolutely hate the thought of sticking a cyclops on a SD.

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    I suppose at least the cyclops could be easily removed...

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    That would not be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33JS View Post
    I suppose at least the cyclops could be easily removed...
    Not that easy! The latest gens have an anti-reflective coating on the underside of the crystal below the cyclops so just removing the cyclops leaves a shadow on the crystal.

    Crystal swap is the only way and unlike with the 114060/116620's I'm not sure which model would share the same crystal (the current gen 116600 should fit but depends on model updates if this does even happen)

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    I hope so.

    The cyclops (ugh) and bloated size would save me 7 grand from not buying one.

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    Has anyone heard any information on the Deepsea or James Cameron being discontinued, was just wondering as it's a 50 yr anaversary of the sea dweller so may be a few changes ahead

    Cheers
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    As i have said many times a 42mm Sub and a 42mm SD are long over due but not sure about a cyclops on a SD

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    i guess we'll find out in a week or so time on what their plan is.

    highly doubt anyone but Rolex themselves know what they plan to if, if anything that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony E View Post
    Has anyone heard any information on the Deepsea or James Cameron being discontinued, was just wondering as it's a 50 yr anaversary of the sea dweller so may be a few changes ahead

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    The staff in Goldsmith Notts told me last week the the Deepsea was being discontinued. I'm sure they just said the SeaDweller, but think she corrected herself to just the Deepsea. I don't know one from the other with the newer ones so I wasn't paying full attention. Some Rolex somewhere with the word "Sea" in it was being discontinued. I know that much :)

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    Size is ok but it needs to lose the eye.. How many poorly sighted deep sea divers need to know the date at 4000ft under water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notenoughwrists View Post
    The staff in Goldsmith Notts told me last week the the Deepsea was being discontinued. I'm sure they just said the SeaDweller, but think she corrected herself to just the Deepsea. I don't know one from the other with the newer ones so I wasn't paying full attention. Some Rolex somewhere with the word "Sea" in it was being discontinued. I know that much :)
    Unless they are streamlining that range and dropping the DSSD and current 40mm SDc in favour is one 42mm Seadweller!

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    Quote Originally Posted by relaxer7 View Post
    Size is ok but it needs to lose the eye.. How many poorly sighted deep sea divers need to know the date at 4000ft under water?
    As has been said by many others if you are 4000 feet down, knowing what the date is is the least of your problems...........

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    Oh COME ON!!!!!

    Rolex has not been about tool watches since the early sixties. The totally ascertained by huge success company strategy was towards luxury/jewelry watches.

    The 1680 was the first Submariner to be equipped with a date function, marking the completion of the transition of the Submariner line from specialist tool watch to mass market fashion accessory. While many professional and military divers used—and continue(d) to use—Submariners in the most demanding underwater environments, by the late 1960s, the watch had undeniably principally become a mass market desk dwelling product.

    Making the Seadweller more attractive to more buyers is fully in line with established as successful company policy.

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    I love this watch, i hope that this is all true as i will certainly be having one, that is if i can find one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla View Post
    Uninformed info..




    I know lots of users of Rolex tool watches

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    Surely that's just a wind-up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla View Post
    Oh COME ON!!!!!

    Rolex has not been about tool watches since the early sixties. The totally ascertained by huge success company strategy was towards luxury/jewelry watches.

    The 1680 was the first Submariner to be equipped with a date function, marking the completion of the transition of the Submariner line from specialist tool watch to mass market fashion accessory. While many professional and military divers used—and continue(d) to use—Submariners in the most demanding underwater environments, by the late 1960s, the watch had undeniably principally become a mass market desk dwelling product.

    Making the Seadweller more attractive to more buyers is fully in line with established as successful company policy.
    Early 90's not late 60's, still being used as a tool watch by many I'm afraid.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchIng View Post
    Surely that's just a wind-up!
    No it will be an auto

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    I used my GMTs for work ( aviation) am in the market for another GMT but wouldn't be impressed if they increased the case size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla View Post
    The 1680 was the first Submariner to be equipped with a date function, marking the completion of the transition of the Submariner line from specialist tool watch to mass market fashion accessory. While many professional and military divers used—and continue(d) to use—Submariners in the most demanding underwater environments, by the late 1960s, the watch had undeniably principally become a mass market desk dwelling product.
    OR.. and this is a crackpot conspiracy I know..

    Divers might quite like to know the date when they're on land. Because they aren't fish and don't spend 24/7 under water.. so the option was made available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    OR.. and this is a crackpot conspiracy I know..

    Divers might quite like to know the date when they're on land. Because they aren't fish and don't spend 24/7 under water.. so the option was made available.
    Ha, ha, that's just madness, diver's wanting to know the date when not diving? It'll never catch on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony E View Post
    Has anyone heard any information on the Deepsea or James Cameron being discontinued, was just wondering as it's a 50 yr anaversary of the sea dweller so may be a few changes ahead

    Cheers
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    The seadweller has now been discontinued, but not the deepsea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Middo View Post
    I used my GMTs for work ( aviation) am in the market for another GMT but wouldn't be impressed if they increased the case size.
    Me neither. I'm on the list for a Coke if it gets released but if they enlarge the case size I'll be most definitely out. I can barely live with the supercased 40 as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    OR.. and this is a crackpot conspiracy I know..

    Divers might quite like to know the date when they're on land. Because they aren't fish and don't spend 24/7 under water.. so the option was made available.
    Why can't divers live under water all the time.
    Cilla lives in la la Land all the time:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Why can't divers live under water all the time.
    Cilla lives in la la Land all the time:-)
    Cos then they'd be sinkers? :D

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    Seadweller discontinued is that confirmed??

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    Those Explorer mock-ups look absolutely dreadful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by taz11 View Post
    Seadweller discontinued is that confirmed??
    No

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    Great little thread and whilst speculation is high is it just a calculated guess coupled with a aspiration by enthusiasts. It would be fine at 43mm and without a cyclops equally if it was red writing it would be the classic new trying to look old that they did with Tudor to some degree and will never replicate the true 'Red Writing' watches to own. Blue writing is likely and I would like to think that would be in precious metal. One things for sure it will be exciting, talked to death about and send everyone into a frenzy and give them something to talk about for a few years.
    RIAC

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    Do I care, errr no not really. Sorry not meant to sound so trite but at the end of the day it's not worth getting your kecks in a twist over.

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    I will be surprised, but by no means astonished, if rolex up the size of the SD. Addition of a cyclops would be unfortunate, and not in tune with one of the reasons why some people buy the SD instead of a Sub date.
    If they phase out the current incarnation after a run of - what -only three years? Well, plenty reason for current owners to be happy. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti View Post
    No
    ADs have told me otherwise. I believe it has been discontinued and TRF seems to agree https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...=519427&page=6

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    Wrong image: anyway, I'll report back from Basel in 2 weeks.





    http://rolexpassionreport.com/wp-con...nniversary.jpg
    Last edited by MartynJC (UK); 14th March 2017 at 19:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Do I care, errr no not really. Sorry not meant to sound so trite but at the end of the day it's not worth getting your kecks in a twist over.

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    Hmm, for once I agree.

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    I really cannot see Rolex putting a cyclops on any new Seadweller at all.

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    I think it looks great but I like the cyclops and the look of the modern rolexes,and I'm sure it would be a huge seller if released

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix View Post
    ADs have told me otherwise. I believe it has been discontinued and TRF seems to agree https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...=519427&page=6

    You could well be right. I bought mine last year for full retail which I've never done as i really wanted the seadweller 4000. Id love it if it were discontinued. I love the watch and the fact its had a small production run could be the icing on the cake. Has it been confirmed as discontinued though at this stage? No.

    I did call my A.D in watches of switzerland in London and she did confirm they've had no sea dweller 4000's since last october. This leads me to also believe it may be discontinued.....but no confirmation yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408 View Post




    I know lots of users of Rolex tool watches
    As do Comex - Cilla less so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408 View Post
    Lose the cyclops, and not too bad.
    Have to agree! Lose the odd fitting solid end links and it'll be even better.

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    Whatever they do to it, it will sell like hot cakes and won't be seen in an AD window for 12 months

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    Just because of the RED ?

    Looks cool

    Mozza

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    I know for a fact the current version of the Seadweller will be phased out, become an instant classic, and prices on them will double overnight. No, I don't have an inside source at Rolex but i know for a fact it will becuase I sold mine today!

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    Typical, my SD4 was to be my every day watch when I bought it but now I can't wear it because it's a collectors item! When BLNR's were all the rage all you saw in AD windows were SD4K's and Datejusts!

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    I hope it isn't above 40mm and really hope it doesn't have a cyclops.

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