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    Quote Originally Posted by endo View Post
    I dont think the problem is the cyclops falling off, its more to do with the localised increase in pressure on a single point of the crystal due to the increased surface area of the cyclops vs a flat section of crystal.

    I've drawn a quick diagram to give an idea of what i mean
    That's as I always understood it, versus the "cyclops falling off" version. No idea whether its a load of cobblers or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toptime View Post
    For me it is the aesthetic and ethical reasons rather than the science behind it. Adding the cyclops to the sd is like adding the rear doors to a 911 or smothering a Sunday roast in ketchup. It's just not right.
    Tend to agree. Some things should be sacred. Unlike many I like the cyclops but its place shouldn't really be on an SD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stix View Post
    Great comparison photo, thanks (DSSD should read 44mm diameter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmcm3 View Post
    That's as I always understood it, versus the "cyclops falling off" version. No idea whether its a load of cobblers or not.
    Depends on what is strongest: the glue or that crystal.

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    Neither is relevant. It's not going anywhere and it's incompressible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stix View Post
    Great comparison pic courtesy of the net:


    Thanks for posting that, very interesting.

    With the DSSD it seem to vary between 43 and 44mm dependent on who you believe/where you read the data........what's 1mm between friends anyway?!

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    This is a fab timeline and worth a look as well:

    170404_130pm_timeline_rolex_sea-dweller.jpg


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    Same static pressure over a larger surface are = less stress per square millimetre.

    Just saying.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by stix View Post
    This is a fab timeline and worth a look as well: 170404_130pm_timeline_rolex_sea-dweller.jpg
    Wow, thanks Stix; the SD has definitely 'evolved' into the current models
    Last edited by PD999; 6th April 2017 at 03:35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frakius View Post
    I think they have lost some of the Sea Dweller aesthetic with the cyclops, it really looks more like a Submariner on steroids than a SD now. At a distance the lack of a cyclops was always a easy way to spot a SD over a Sub.
    I am sure it will sell like hotcakes though, which will reinforce in the designer's mind they did they right thing :-(
    It's an awesome Submariner XL or Submariner II, but I think it's a pretty crappy Sea Dweller. Clearly, my taste isn't driving the market. I thought the previous version was just about the best possible watch that Rolex is currently capable of producing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stix View Post
    Great comparison pic courtesy of the net:

    If this picture is true to scale, the single red is going to wear small. The DSSD has a lug to lug of 51.96mm, and the current Subs are around 48mm. The single red looks almost exactly in between those two.

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    I went to Watches of Switzerland and Rolex in Harrods today and both told me there was, as yet, no waiting list open for this watch as it hasn't yet been released for sale.

    I never knew how hard it would be to give a company £8500.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Croftrock View Post
    I never knew how hard it would be to give a company £8500.
    It's pretty hard to buy something that isn't for sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP Chestnut View Post
    It's pretty hard to buy something that isn't for sale.
    My point was that earlier on the subject I mentioned that I was told by a different AD that their list had 50-60 names on it and was already closed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Croftrock View Post
    My point was that earlier on the subject I mentioned that I was told by a different AD that their list had 50-60 names on it and was already closed.


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    Different AD's have different policies, they are moderately autonomous retail outlets after all. Or whoever you talked to was full of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP Chestnut View Post
    Different AD's have different policies, they are moderately autonomous retail outlets after all. Or whoever you talked to was full of it.
    Almost certainly the latter, given my experience of that particular AD, hence my being a little jaded. I'm sure today was more representative and the list is yet to open. Some on this thread have managed it early - earned fairly by good relationships no doubt, which is perfectly reasonable.

    WOS suggested the list will likely open in the first week of May, if that's helpful info to anyone like me who hasn't yet got an "in". :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Croftrock View Post
    Almost certainly the latter, given my experience of that particular AD, hence my being a little jaded. I'm sure today was more representative and the list is yet to open. Some on this thread have managed it early - earned fairly by good relationships no doubt, which is perfectly reasonable.

    WOS suggested the list will likely open in the first week of May, if that's helpful info to anyone like me who hasn't yet got an "in". :)


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    Good review here. Couple of nice pics.

    https://monochrome-watches.com/rolex...-review-price/

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    Are numerals on the date wheel fatter on the new movement?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Are numerals on the date wheel fatter on the new movement?


    Looks that way in that photograph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stix View Post
    Great comparison pic courtesy of the net:

    Bracelet on the Deep Sea looks waay too wide in that picture. The DSSD is deffo top-heavy.

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    Maybe the magnification is slightly stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Are numerals on the date wheel fatter on the new movement?



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    I just did a Google image search for the 3155 and 3235 movements, to look at them without the magnifiers in the way. To my eye they do look a tiny bit thicker and they more pronounced serifs, but the photos weren't high enough resolution to make zooming in worthwhile. At least, not on my phone at any rate

    3155



    From http://people.timezone.com/mdisher/a...135/3135_1.htm

    3235



    From http://www.montres-de-luxe.com/Rolex...35_a11504.html

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    This watch has made me realise something that I suspected for some time. The red text doesn't actually look better, it was just rarer.
    Last edited by cmcm3; 8th April 2017 at 20:30.

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    Apparently these are coming Monday (UK). Any first on list people heard anything ?
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    Not a peep

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    I've had the call to say they are in earliest collection Monday due a stitulation of no sale before May 1st this has also been confirmed over on TRF by a few U.K members.

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    Nice one, can't wait to see some more real on the wrist pictures of this one. Kind of regretting not putting my name down for one.

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    Yeh. I'm hoping I get a call very soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ally- View Post
    Nice one, can't wait to see some more real on the wrist pictures of this one. Kind of regretting not putting my name down for one.
    To be honest I've cooled off since the Basel release but want to get a side by side with my 116600 before deciding but given the recent sale on here of a 116600 if I was to change the cost is minimal.

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    I had the call earlier this week and can go and see my watch but not actually buy it until Monday.

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    I guess I'm not as high on the list as I thought. Hey ho.

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    This is quick, looking forward to some normal wrist shots.

    I just hope Rolex have got their act together this time and it doesn't turn into another Daytona fiasco.

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    Here are some wristshots









    Actually it's not that bad, well besides the cyclops. It's a fairly decent size jump in terms of weight if we compare it to SD4000. But the added 3mm to the case balances it quite well on the wrist. Still prefer a bit toolish SD4000 thou...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nono View Post
    Here are some wristshots









    Actually it's not that bad, well besides the cyclops. It's a fairly decent size jump in terms of weight if we compare it to SD4000. But the added 3mm to the case balances it quite well on the wrist. Still prefer a bit toolish SD4000 thou...
    Nice, looks even better than on the website.

    Currently on the waiting list :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by toptime View Post
    For me it is the aesthetic and ethical reasons rather than the science behind it. Adding the cyclops to the sd is like adding the rear doors to a 911 or smothering a Sunday roast in ketchup. It's just not right.
    I concur

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    Agreed the new SD looks excellent and well proportioned - not sure my skinny wrists can pull it off though.

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    I must confess it was the cyclops that did for me, I wasn't too bothered about the 43mm size the red writing is superb.

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    The bezel lume pip looks much lower-profile on that. I like it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbull666 View Post
    To be honest I've cooled off since the Basel release but want to get a side by side with my 116600 before deciding but given the recent sale on here of a 116600 if I was to change the cost is minimal.
    My thinking too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbull666 View Post
    I've had the call to say they are in earliest collection Monday due a stitulation of no sale before May 1st this has also been confirmed over on TRF by a few U.K members.
    May 02. Don't forget bank holiday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
    May 02. Don't forget bank holiday.
    My AD opens bank holidays..

    I'm away for the weekend so won't be until mid next week now anyway :(

    TBH I've put a deposit down on something much more exciting :)

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    After seeing those pictures it has confirmed my choice. (If I want a cyclops I can get a Submariner date).

    Last edited by MartynJC (UK); 27th April 2017 at 17:33.

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    I have had the SD43 call as well! Roll on Monday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartynJC (UK) View Post
    After seeing those pictures it has comfirmed my choice.

    Snap


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nono View Post
    Here are some wristshots[...]

    Actually it's not that bad, well besides the cyclops. It's a fairly decent size jump in terms of weight if we compare it to SD4000. But the added 3mm to the case balances it quite well on the wrist. Still prefer a bit toolish SD4000 thou...
    Sacrilegious, I know, but the Cyclops is an improvement in my opinion. The plain, tiny and too-far-inboard date window is the only flaw I've found on my 116600, so I'm OK with that getting fixed.

    Good point about the heft. Though it's nothing unbearable, I find the previous version more than heavy enough for long-term wearing, so the extra mass isn't exactly a plus.

    Quality photos there. The case looks great, but the fat bezel I'm not so sure about. Definitely keen on having a look in person. :)

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    Maybe they added the cyclops to make it seem like they did more with the update? Saying that Rolex doesn't really like changing much with designs so a update for the sake of having done more to differentiate from the older model seems out of character for them. I Photoshopped the image and added the new SD without a cyclops and it's pretty insignificant update to the old one with just a size increase and a line of red text, so who knows?
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    I think the last 40mm version is my favourite. Will try the new one but struggling to like the oversized bezel and cyclops.




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    Hope I get a call

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frakius View Post
    Maybe they added the cyclops to make it seem like they did more with the update? Saying that Rolex doesn't really like changing much with designs so a update for the sake of having done more to differentiate from the older model seems out of character for them. I Photoshopped the image and added the new SD without a cyclops and it's pretty insignificant update to the old one with just a size increase and a line of red text, so who knows?
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    The mockup Kind of looks like the Deepsea without the cyclops which is maybe a reason they put one on?

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