closing tag is in template navbar
timefactors watches



TZ-UK Fundraiser
Results 1 to 27 of 27

Thread: A probability problem... probably.

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Peterborough
    Posts
    2,841
    Blog Entries
    1

    Question A probability problem... probably.

    According to the statistics at the bottom of the main forum page, I am the only person out of 10,935 registered users with a birthday today.

    Now, assuming that people have entered their actual birthday (and not 01/01/1970 or something) when registering, and assuming that our birthdays are evenly distributed throughout the year (ie the probability of any one person having a birthday today is 1/365), what are the odds of me being the only one to have a birthday today* out of almost 11,000 people ? I am also ignoring leap years.


    It's making my head hurt trying to work it out.






    * for the pedants... I mean celebrating the anniversary of my birth

  2. #2
    I imagine most people haven't entered their birthday - why would they?

    Happy Birthday BTW!

  3. #3
    Grand Master WORKSIMON's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Dreich Scotland
    Posts
    10,946
    Probably not worth worrying about
    Cheers

    Simon



    Ralph Waldo Emerson: We ask for long life, but 'tis deep life, or noble moments that signify. Let the measure of time be spiritual, not mechanical.

  4. #4
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Peterborough
    Posts
    2,841
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    I imagine most people haven't entered their birthday - why would they?

    Happy Birthday BTW!
    Well, let's assume that they have

    (Thanks BTW)

  5. #5
    Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Riyadh, KSA
    Posts
    5,518
    Here's the birthday paradox to really cook your brain.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27835311
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem

  6. #6
    Grand Master Mr Curta's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Mainly UK
    Posts
    17,381
    In the region of 0.000000000000094. Probably.

  7. #7
    Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    West Sussex, United Kingdom.
    Posts
    8,005
    Happy Birthday Amnesia!!!

  8. #8
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    East Riding of Yorkshire
    Posts
    732
    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzler View Post
    I just read this. My head really does hurt.

  9. #9
    Happy Birthday!

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by amnesia View Post
    According to the statistics at the bottom of the main forum page, I am the only person out of 10,935 registered users with a birthday today.

    Now, assuming that people have entered their actual birthday (and not 01/01/1970 or something) when registering, and assuming that our birthdays are evenly distributed throughout the year (ie the probability of any one person having a birthday today is 1/365), what are the odds of me being the only one to have a birthday today* out of almost 11,000 people ? I am also ignoring leap years....:
    Pretty slim, Happy Birthday.

  11. #11
    Master Wolfie's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Leicester
    Posts
    7,125
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    In the region of 0.000000000000094. Probably.
    Does that make you feel special Amnesia???

    Happy birthday

  12. #12
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Peterborough
    Posts
    2,841
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks for the birthday wishes chaps... I love you all.

    I'm quite keen to understand the mathematics behind my probability question, though.

  13. #13
    Grand Master MartynJC (UK)'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Somewhere else
    Posts
    12,372
    Blog Entries
    22
    01/01/1970. Default birthday

  14. #14
    Grand Master Mr Curta's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Mainly UK
    Posts
    17,381
    Quote Originally Posted by amnesia View Post
    Thanks for the birthday wishes chaps... I love you all.

    I'm quite keen to understand the mathematics behind my probability question, though.
    (364/365)10934

  15. #15
    Master Possu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    3,744
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    (364/365)10934
    Would this be the correct way to take leap years into account?

    (364/365)8200.5 x (365/366)2733,5

    Happy birthday amnesia!

  16. #16
    Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    2,020
    Quote Originally Posted by Bazzman View Post
    I just read this. My head really does hurt.
    So does mine...

    Weird birthdays combo in my life:

    My father and my father in law were born the same day, same year, roughly at the same time

    At work (156 employees) 5 of us share the same birthday (all different years)

    My wife and my best friend were born the same day (1 year apart)

    My mum and my ex boss were born the same day (1 apart)

    My guess is that it's human nature to focus on this coincidences and ignore everything else. But I was still really surprised about my dad and my father in law...

  17. #17
    Master vagabond's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Here and There....
    Posts
    6,461
    Blog Entries
    1
    Happy birthday Amnesia - I'd completely forgotten about it until you reminded me!

  18. #18
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    5,831
    Blog Entries
    2
    I share the same birthday including year of birth with Morten Harket,





  19. #19
    Grand Master Mr Curta's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Mainly UK
    Posts
    17,381
    Quote Originally Posted by Possu View Post
    Would this be the correct way to take leap years into account?

    (364/365)8200.5 x (365/366)2733,5
    Leap years mean four days out of every 1461 that no other member can be born on.

    (1457/1461)10934

  20. #20
    Talking of strange coincidences, my mum and dad shared the same birthday, May the 5th.

    Actually maybe not so much of a coincidence, that's why they went out together that first time...

  21. #21
    Grand Master Velorum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    .
    Posts
    14,132
    Happy birthday

    I don't think that there is an even spread of births throughout the year - however, for you to be the only one of so many people seems rather odd

  22. #22
    Master PhilipK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Hampshire, UK
    Posts
    4,232
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    Leap years mean four days out of every 1461 that no other member can be born on.

    (1457/1461)10934
    I don't think that you have allowed for 2000 not having been a leap year (only years which are divisible by 4 but not by 400 are leap years).

  23. #23
    Grand Master learningtofly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Everywhere & nowhere, baby
    Posts
    37,594
    I share my birthday with my brother, and my ex brother in law. That's pretty weird.

    Oh, and many happy returns to the OP.

  24. #24
    Grand Master Saint-Just's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Ashford, Kent
    Posts
    29,050
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipK View Post
    I don't think that you have allowed for 2000 not having been a leap year (only years which are divisible by 4 but not by 400 are leap years).
    I don't think we have many 17 year old around.
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

  25. #25
    Grand Master VDG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Whitehole
    Posts
    18,967
    I'm surprised you've remembered it.
    Fas est ab hoste doceri

  26. #26
    Journeyman submorstua's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    98
    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzler View Post
    Ahhh I was going to bring up the birthday paradox. A very interesting phenomenon.

    Happy belated birthday to the OP, too!

  27. #27
    Journeyman submorstua's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    98
    Quote Originally Posted by catch21 View Post
    Talking of strange coincidences, my mum and dad shared the same birthday, May the 5th.
    Seems like a cool coincidence to me. My girlfriend and my mom share a birthday, which means I shouldn't ever forget (but if I did......).

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Do Not Sell My Personal Information