I heard recently that the average 55+ take four pills a day. Up until the beginning of the month I didn't take any pills at all except for vitamin D which the gp recommended. One heart attack later and I've joined the club with Bisoprolol, Atorvastatin, Ramipril, Tigarelor and aspirin. Happy days but I wouldn't want to be behind the curve of mr. average. What's your poison?
D-Mannose since I've issues with water infections. Not sure about other supplements. Tempted by Vitamin D.
Other than cod liver oil and glucosamine sulfate, not usually anything.
I've been on Naproxen and Co-codamol for the last couple of weeks for shoulder pain, however I'm hoping the ultrasound guided steroid injections I had this morning will put a stop to that
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Gabapentin three times a day for my back.
Cheers,
Neil.
1 x Cod liver oil and Glucosamine.
Nothing!
Mark
Glucosamine, chondroitin, multi vit, MSN and omega 3.
Daily: Vit D, multivitamin, glucosamine sulphate, pro-biotic
I'm not a big fruit /vegetable eater, so these (hopefully) help.
Nothing. And if you live in the countryside you have no excuse to need vit D as a good daily walk outside around noon will get you enough sun to allow your body to synthesise what you need throughout the year.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Vits C & D, glucosamine and 75mg aspirin.
Is 'being at work' a valid excuse?Originally Posted by Saint-Just
Nowt on the outside, vitamins in the chamber.
mike
No, unless you don't have a lunch break.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
I don't, as it happens. I'll stick with the Vit D, although I do go for walks and runs of a weekend.
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For everyone?
Unless you've been diagnosed with a severe sun allergy or an inability to synthesise vit D. Extreme latitudes may foil that plan but I am reliably informed that whale or seal blubber will see you through
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Nothing. Having a nutrionist and molecular pharmacologist for siblings I've been become brainwashed in to how most of these things are utter nonsense (aside from a placebo effect).
Try living in the North of Scotland and see how much sun you can get around noon for most of the year
Cheers
Simon
Ralph Waldo Emerson: We ask for long life, but 'tis deep life, or noble moments that signify. Let the measure of time be spiritual, not mechanical.
I'm beginning to think, in some respects, that you live in Cloud Cuckooland with 'Cilla
It's nice to think everyone gets a solid hour away from their desk at lunchtime (in glorious sunshine year 'round - Is Ashford's weather THAT good?), but the reality is quite different for many, many people.
I take a statin and something else to control high cholestrol, although I've never had high blood pressure or any other symptons, just seems my family have it (there's a term which I can't be bothered to look up) and the doctor advised me to take it to ward off the possible effects.
After 3 years I've no side-effects (Statins almost killed my mum as her Liver stopped working, but I'm on a very low dose).
M.
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Not true unless you are a naturist living in California. Most of our skin is normally covered in clothes & never receives any sunlight, especially in the winter. And in the Summer there's an increasing trend to use high sun protection factor sun creams because of the risk of skin cancer. It's a sad fact that the majority of the population in this country are vitamin D deficient. The government have been advised this but have chosen to ignore it on the basis that dishing out vitamin D to the population will be too costly. They've taken the option to wait & see what the long term effects might be.
Edit: Red Krill oil & 1000iu vitamin D daily for me
Edit 2: this relates to the USA but it's no better in the UK https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...united-states/
Last edited by trident-7; 24th February 2017 at 17:07.
Going to have to call you out on that one. Petal (she of the excellent diet and outdoor life) has just had tests for something unrelated and they reported her D level as "insufficient but not deficient" frankly I can scarcely see how anyone could have a more balanced diet or reasonably spend any more time outdoors than her.
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Then it is something she may want to investigate. From what you are saying she might get her vit D from one only of the 2 common sources despite an appropriate diet and exposure to UV B.
I take about eight prescription medications every morning plus five every night. Oh, and two different vitamin tablets.
Uv b go through clouds. My lunch break is 36 minutes. And there are WE
But thanks all the same.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Is two days a week enough to get a full dose of Vit D?Uv b go through clouds. My lunch break is 36 minutes. And there are WE
But thanks all the same.
I must admit I don't take it and always TRY and get out for 10 minutes (or more - managed 30 minutes today) if I can, but some days it just doesn't work.
That said, I fully support the idea of getting out and having a walk most days, especially if you're desk bound.
M
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Uv b go through clouds. My lunch break is 36 minutes. And there are WE
But thanks all the same.
Do you know how many people in this country are at risk of Vitamin D deficiency? And no, no matter how many walks they take, they still won't produce enough.
As I said latitude is an issue but it affects a minority. Townies are also at a disadvantage. But for the rest, what the sun doesn't provide can come from food. I know there was a big headline a few weeks ago but how many cases of rickets have you observed in your lifetime. Now consider the market supplements represent.
If people make the effort of walking 20 Minutes a day through the year, and with sleeves rolled up when the weather allows it those who are clinically deficient will probably be reduced by 99% in the countryside population.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
You are wrong again.
My wife has coeliac disease she can't absorb Vit D. She needs a supplement and has regular bone scans to check.
People with inflammatory bowel disease can't absorb properly.
But keep going...
Stop saying people are wrong just because you can't read. I posted a number of caveats at the beginning and if your wife cannot get the part from food that over people do then it becomes a prescription.
Most people take supplements, including vit D, for the wrong reasons.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
I'm not saying people are wrong. I am saying you are wrong. Just because you can't read!
In fact Doctor, I think you are a complete and total idiot. Hope you can read that?
3 different blood pressure pills every day for the last 12 years or so, since i was 29/30. As of last month, i now need a thyroxine pill every day too, for underactive thyroid
Ramipril and now solifenacin :(
Daily vitamin D and multi vitamin.
50 here (age, that is). No pills, although I am thinking about aspirin.
Vit D levels are useless.
Taking Vit D supplements has not been shown to be helpful even if levels are low ( except those at risk of osteoporosis)
It is one of the biggest medical hoaxes of last few decades.
It IS an indicator of poor health but taking supplements is not the answer.
Being outdoors , exercising etc are more helpful as they improve general health.
US task force for preventive health does not recommend routine VIT D testing as there is no agreement amongst scientists about how low is exactly low and what to do about it and if supplements are actually helpful.
By and large, supplements won't hurt- so no harm in taking them but OTOH, no need to take them either.
Don't expect most GPS to know that,though.
http://www.fremontnaturaldentistry.c...dontal-health/
This was sent to me by a patient, for me I think they are trying to turn what should be a healthy lifestyle choice into a medical need that can be billed as a treatment. I advised her to eat her salad for lunch outside.
At a recent professional course the speaker advised we tell all our "high caries" patients to consume 10g of xyletol a day as this will disrupt how oral bacteria will interact with regular sugars in the diet. This translates to either constantly chewing gum or sucking sugarfree mints which will give you a TMJ problem to treat and probably chronic diarrhoea
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diahorrea...is that a correct version of the spelling? I always spell it diarrhoea.
I'm not sure chewing chewing gum is a major cause of TMJ dysfunction syndrome. At least not in my experience & not in the way that nocturnal bruxism & clenching is. In my experience more people are clenching & grinding their teeth at night than aren't. Not that many of them think they do or believe they do even when they are advised.
The recommended Xylitol intake here is 5g per day. That translates into one or two lozenges or a couple of minutes of chewing gum after each meal. Surely not something to cause diarrhoea or TMJ.
MDMA, CRACK, IBUPROFEN, ASPRIN,
rinse and repeat
75mg aspirin and a multivitamin.
One stick of Trident gum contains 170mg of xylitol so you would need more than a couple of minutes chewing.
The Spry Gems ( mints) contain 0.6g per mint so you would need to eat 17 per day for the 10g.
I'm not saying 10g is correct, just what this guy was recommending.
Copious amounts of red wine plus a cod liver oil tablet daily.
Pete (52 and not had a day off work in 12 years)
Nonsense.
My son has Coeliacs and his Vit D levels were very low before supplements and came back to normal levels after being on them for a bit.
My wife also works as an advanced nurse practitioner in a GP practice and regularly sees people with low VitD levels(the Asian population being particularly susceptible up here due to covering more skin)who after retesting months later have increased their levels and likewise their energy levels are much better.
Nothing here fwiw but I get plenty/practically daily exercise, mucho sun and eat lots of fruit and veg, donīt hardly ever eat pre-prepared..and Iīm only 46. But everyone has different needs and requirements.
Anyone know what the whole multi Vit for the masses "industry" is worth annually?
In your case,the risk comes from consuming copious amounts of a particular coolaid:-) 😜
Hehe lolīd, no-oneĻs perfect.
Iīve just begun consuming a very pleasant red from Jumilla at the moment:)Salud.
I am on a Nuits Saint Georges 1er Cru "Les Pruliers" 2013.
Tough year in the main wasnīt it 2013?
Anyway cheers:)
Salud! Enjoy.
500 mg Keppra tablets twice a day
Temozolomide chemotherapy tablets for 5 days each month for 12 months
Long story short I was diagnosed with a Brain Tumour last August. Had surgery to remove it in October. (Thankfully the Nuerosurgeon was able to perform a total resection without me having any functional deficit. The tumour was in my right frontal lobe just under the skull. Thankfully not in an extremely critical part of the brain)
Pathology showed it to be malignant (Anaplastic Astrocytoma), 6.5 weeks of IMRT Radiotherapy Monday to Friday and now 12 months of Chemo tablets 5 days each month.
Life is a bi*ch sometimes. However I have recovered from the surgery and am looking to go back to work soon to try and bring some normality back in my life.
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