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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post
    What is happening to all the Swiss designers... are they going mental!?

    The Club was perfect as it was thank you!
    They had to do something to raise the price by a grand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    Very nice indeed. I prefer this dial to most of the previous precious metal versions.

    I presume that this is stainless steel bracelet and case with white gold bezel. I am rather surprised that they did a Sky-Dweller with non-precious metal parts.
    I think sales are down down down. They needed to amortize the cost of that movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post
    What happened to the Grand Seiko branding rumour? Have they not shown yet?
    According to this: https://twitter.com/James_UKWatches ... the rumours did materialize:




    Anyhow, so far only the blue AT is to my liking. I certainly did not enjoy the asymmetry/ crown guards of the previous model. The new one is perfectly symmetrical and almost 1mm thinner (now it's 12,26 according to the WUS thread). I have no preference for vertical or horizontal lines, so that's not an issue for me. The new crown is also somewhat more interesting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    I wonder how long before they notice the mistake on the minutes subdial?
    If you are referring to 02 instead of 03 then that is explained in the reviews- movement name change

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    This would be so much better on an Oyster bracelet:


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    I'm looking forward to seeing how large the BB41 wears on me...


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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post
    I'm looking forward to seeing how large the BB41 wears on me...
    What size wrist do you have? Mine are slim and I can manage an Explorer at 39mm. I think the extra 2mm on that style of watch would tip it over the edge for me.

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    Having spent the afternoon having a good slow look at all of the new models and without sounding negative I don't think there's anything there that particularly exciting that would make me part with my money personally. The Seadweller is the pick of the bunch, a little bit of a shame it has the cyclops a real break from tradition I think that Rolexes steel sports models like the subs are deeply embedded in historic content and the Red writing is a tribute but the cyclops is a modern twist too far for that model.
    As with all things whether it's cars, watches, motorcycles every year it has to be more advanced new are brighter faster sharper but we all anchor after the real classics. I take a DB4 over a DB 11 any day of the week and I rather be in an E type jag than the Jaguar F pace but I can't deny that both of them are simply sublime


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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    What size wrist do you have? Mine are slim and I can manage an Explorer at 39mm. I think the extra 2mm on that style of watch would tip it over the edge for me.
    6.75... so the early 2000's Railmaster fills my wrist really. I am assuming it will look like a plate on my wrist.

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    What a poor 2017 all rank, looks like the designers have gone home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
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    So....Tudor mentions Breitling in their press release. And Breitling mentions Tudor in theirs. Is this...ACTUAL transparency in the watch industry? Hard to believe, but appears it is."
    Rolex buys Breitling? ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP Chestnut View Post
    I think sales are down down down. They needed to amortize the cost of that movement.
    I wasn't aware that sales of the Sky-Dweller were down.

    It was rather expensive, I guess, and complications are possibly less popular at the moment.

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    Seiko have by far the nicest offering IMO. That 62MAS and the GS 3 hander above are both stunning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcarter View Post
    This would be so much better on an Oyster bracelet:

    ...and take 1-1.5mm off that oversized bezel all round, and you'd have the perfect size and proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plake View Post
    Seiko have by far the nicest offering IMO. That 62MAS and the GS 3 hander above are both stunning.
    I have to agree..


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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    I wasn't aware that sales of the Sky-Dweller were down.

    It was rather expensive, I guess, and complications are possibly less popular at the moment.
    I don't have any inside info, but among my extended circle of collector friends there are probably 20 day dates and... zero skydwellers. It's really large and thick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plake View Post
    Seiko have by far the nicest offering IMO. That 62MAS and the GS 3 hander above are both stunning.
    That GS three hander looks like an original vintage watch to me, too much wear, scratches on the indices etc.. I wouldn't be surprised if they reissued that one but I don't think that's it, correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Is this a special edition or a different size? What size is it?


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    Just seen 42mm in white gold


    Quote Originally Posted by langdalematt View Post
    Is this a special edition or a different size? What size is it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveWatches View Post
    Nicest release for me so far:

    A Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Mil Spec with 40mm

    http://www.blancpain.com/en/news/tri...thoms-mil-spec

    Would look good without the Pokémon ball on it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post
    Good spot... does this mean the end of the 36mm? That has always been the next on my hit list.
    It's nice, but it's VERY thick Oli

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepie View Post
    It's nice, but it's VERY thick Oli
    Should have read the whole thread :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAddict View Post
    They had to do something to raise the price by a grand.
    That Club Campus retails at £1100, so if you can show me the old one for £100 I'll take a few!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveWatches View Post
    Nicest release for me so far:

    A Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Mil Spec with 40mm

    http://www.blancpain.com/en/news/tri...thoms-mil-spec

    That is a cracker. Unfortunately it will have a price tag to match!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post
    That GS three hander looks like an original vintage watch to me, too much wear, scratches on the indices etc.. I wouldn't be surprised if they reissued that one but I don't think that's it, correct me if I'm wrong.
    Seiko's prototypes always have the hands showing 8-9 past 10. Watches with date always show 6th.

    See current stock pics: https://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/collections/en/gs/

    So must be a new model. Non working prototype.
    Last edited by Toshk; 22nd March 2017 at 20:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ged View Post
    That is a cracker. Unfortunately it will have a price tag to match!

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    Another limited edition of the BP FF that's 40mm........If only they'd do the base model in this size I would get one. Sadly, this is like the other one, will be way out of my price range. Grrrr


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammond View Post
    That Club Campus retails at £1100, so if you can show me the old one for £100 I'll take a few!
    Sorry, I misread something earlier on their pricing

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAddict View Post
    Sorry, I misread something earlier on their pricing
    In fairness the new Club with the Neomatik movement have increased to ~£2300 so, yeah, about a grand-ish. The one previously posted though is the new Campus model with the Cali dial that, if you believe the press release, they are "subsidising" to get it to the price point it's at.

    Unfortunately neither solves the issue with the long lug length which ruins the watch for me. Otherwise a manual wind datum would be my daily wearer for a long long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammond View Post
    In fairness the new Club with the Neomatik movement have increased to ~£2300 so, yeah, about a grand-ish. The one previously posted though is the new Campus model with the Cali dial that, if you believe the press release, they are "subsidising" to get it to the price point it's at.

    Unfortunately neither solves the issue with the long lug length which ruins the watch for me. Otherwise a manual wind datum would be my daily wearer for a long long time.
    That's the one I was reading about (Club Neomatik 200m)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAddict View Post
    That's the one I was reading about (Club Neomatik 200m)
    Yep. I like it, new movement, proper WR...just the lugs. A real shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    Seiko's prototypes always have the hands showing 8-9 past 10. Watches with date always show 6th.

    See current stock pics: https://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/collections/en/gs/

    So must be a new model. Non working prototype.
    Almost every watch ever photographed has the hands in that position - they must all be Seikos!

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    Really liking the blue dial SkyDweller

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post
    Almost every watch ever photographed has the hands in that position - they must all be Seikos!
    Check both the GS and 62MAS from today. Even the seconds match.

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    Any more photos of the 62mas?


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    This is rather nice:


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    Quote Originally Posted by RajLondon View Post
    Really liking the blue dial SkyDweller
    Me too. That watch wears large though. It's a big thick 42mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ged View Post
    That is a cracker. Unfortunately it will have a price tag to match!

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    What is that circular thing? It says it's a water tightness indicator?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ged View Post
    That is a cracker. Unfortunately it will have a price tag to match!

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    Total dumbass question... but... what's the thingy for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post


    whats going on at Tudor? I really do not like the rivet bracelet... and in two tone?!

    The crown doesn't even seem to match the two tone!
    I actually really like this one!


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    Interesting the 62MAS re-release seems well received here...

    I think it looks very poor compared to the original. The original is such a beautiful watch and they got the Lume markers so right on that watch. The new version doesn't even look a tenth the price it's listed at. $3800!

    I would say it looks like the 62MAS replica dials you can get for the 7s26-0040 but It's not even that good.

    I don't really get what has happened where it's considered fine to see a cheap looking Seiko sorts watch in steel on a rubber strap for $3800. And I'm a huge Seiko fan and have a large collection of them.

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    So... still no GMT from Tudor?

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    Is it just me, or has the best release to date been the new Oris Chronoris Date?

    A cracking looking watch and a good price to boot!

    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/or...te-introducing

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    Confirming the rumors on Grand Seiko:

    http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Comp...n-Swiss-rivals

    GS logo at 12, higher prices, 3 year guarantee, first GS historical model re-release, new sports watches, more ladies watches.

    Not sure about the 'higher prices' part, unless western AD prices can be brought in line with import prices - particularly for 9F models, unless they develop a new movement. But I guess it's the lesson Omega learned, compete on price and you're perceived as a lesser brand. A pragmatic decision on the logo in the end too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix View Post
    What is that circular thing? It says it's a water tightness indicator?


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    Some of the military issued versions used to have a disk in the same position that changed colour if moisture entered the case.
    It looks as if they have replicated this disk.

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    GS divers.


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    I would have gone for GS on the Dial or Grand Seiko but not both...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alansmithee View Post
    I would have gone for GS on the Dial or Grand Seiko but not both...
    I'm inclined to agree, they are doing a bit of a Squale doubling up. Not a deal breaker though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alansmithee View Post
    I would have gone for GS on the Dial or Grand Seiko but not both...
    It's true, there's still a certain amount of repetition. I'm hoping that the dressier models just use the Grand Seiko writing in the manner of the first GS that looks like being reissued.

    As for those divers, pretty ugly to my eye, those hands look like Swiss clock towers. But chronos and divers have never been their strong point, for me at least.

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    Grand Seiko novelties here - click reveal entire thread to show all the photos.

    First GS re-issue as expected, platinum, gold, stainless steel. Plus a modern makeover. And some weird ceramic shenanigans. Does the new logo make the dial feel ever so slightly unbalanced? Otherwise the change doesn't feel too dramatic really.
    Last edited by Itsguy; 23rd March 2017 at 11:19.

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