Anyone who can't understand the appeal of this one is probably just stuck in the past.
I'm just damn excited about seeing this in the flesh!
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Rubbish! Stupid statement .
This watch is one for the trendies who always yearn for the latest version of everything. Viewed objectively it's mediocre at best, but factor in the exclusivity and the hype that generates and it's easy to see how it'll appeal to a certain type of buyer.
Style versus fashion IMO.......but what do I know? 1000 flies around a pile of shit can't all be wrong.
I'd buy one myself for one good reason; I could sell it at a profit and some saddo would feel privileged to buy it!
Paul
Before this thread gets derailed by comments about other things.
Yes you can get it sent to your local AD, I am as I don't live near a Boutique. Just email speedytuesday@omega.ch and they are very polite and friendly will arrange it for you.
what? lol
how is a standard speedmaster different to this one from a style/fashion perspective? They are both unnecessary men's accessory, jewellery. The reverse panda to me looks better simple as that. How can this watch be mediocre and the speedmaster not, unless u are criticising the speedmasters in general i really do not understand your negativity.
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What I'm criticising is the way Omega are trying to create a contrived collectors market by yet another 'limited edition' of what's basically an OK watch but nothing more. How mqny more drops can Omega squeeze out of the same lemon?.........how many colours/sides does the moon have?........how many anniversaries of first/last/9th moon landing can they commemorate? Alter the writing on the back,alter the colour of the subdials , alter the strap..........I find it hard to believe grown-ups are really taken in by all this hype.
Put the watch on a bracelet and it would be OK, but no more nor less than OK. Nothing to get excited about, yet we've got folks on this forum behaving like excited puppies over it.
It's what I term contrived exclusivity; Rolex do it by limiting supply of certain models knowing full well it'll create demand. We've even got the absurd situation where Rolex buyers are asking to go on 'the list' for whatever new watch is announced at Basel!..........'Please put me on the list for something I've never seen', hiw silly is that?
Let me make this clear for those who struggle to believe it: I have no wish to be on any 'list' for this watch. Let me also make another thing clear for the wannabees : I could buy this watch with the cash in my back pocket should I wish to, It's got nothing to do with aspiration or money to me.
What I'm questioning is the culture that surrounds this watch and some of the 'exclusive' Rolex offerings. It seems far removed from my concept of enthusiasm for watches, it' s more about the 'must have' factor that's stimulated by the fact that they' re hard to get. I find that behaviour sad and crass, hence my comments. This culture seems to be in the asendancy on TZ thesedays; far more people bragging about what they own rather than genuine enthusiasm for watches.
Paul
Paul, I do agree with some of the things you say, like the contrived "exclusivity" that brands wanna create or how this may be a case of getting the "greatest and latest" and getting on the list for something not released is yes silly.
But I think one thing you could perhaps acknowledge is that these watches are, to the majority really good looking pieces!
Take the 116500, particularly in the white dial, i feel is a smashing watch and with a solid movement to boot! Furthermore the reverse panda speedy with the brushed case is brilliant! Regardless of how limited these are, I feel they are simply really handsome watches and I applaud the brands for making these.
I don't think this is just a case of squeezing cash, but a good effort.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here but I don't think Paul likes it.
In all seriousness though Paul, Speedmasters are in my view a cracking watch. If you don't like it, fine. Just move along.
Steve
I disagree with just about every point you make. The sentences I've emphasised are particularly revealing. I'd advise caution, some members may be less inclined to respond positively to your continued touting for business, when they contemplate that sort of hubristic waffle. It's what I term extreme fuddy-duddyism.
David
An excited puppy, a Wanabee owner of a Speedy Tuesday and already an owner of another "OK but nothing more" Speedmaster.
Just caught up with this thread after the release hysteria.
Wow!
I don't want one and am not into collecting for the sake of it, but there are people motivated to have a set of a said item, whether its a watch or something else.
If you were going to buy a speedmaster anyway, why not a "special" edition (we all know they're not). Mind you I did get fed up after the dark side.....
I will have eventually own a speedmaster after missing out on the one on SC this week!
Speaking of which we may need a separate thread on useful special editions with good taste and added value!
It's horses for courses, and the diversity of taste in horology keeps the business alive. We all need healthy corporate balance sheets for R+D. That means models will come along that appear to different individuals and markets. Maybe even sold at loss to get them to market.
Working my way through the Seiko story at the mo. It gives a lot of insight into what companies should and need to do to keep their businesses alive.
I would suggest if this watch ain't for you, you stop contributing to the thread and let the enthusiastic enjoy their moment.
OK, you've highlighted some points in this thread and I`m going to put you straight: I do NOT tout for business, I turn more watch repair jobs down than I take on, the money isn't a driver for me.........can you get that through your skull?
I fix watches on a small scale, I enjoy it, I take pride in the work and I do an excellent job. I`m happy to work at my leisure with one or two watches/week on the bench......have I made myself clear!
Don`t try forcing me into pigeon holes that I don`t fit in........I'm not motivated by money and I own two Speedmasters myself as part of an extensive collection.
I`ve made some pertinent points, hardly hubristic waffle. If this watch had been launched as an addition to the range that would have been fine, it's the hype that bugs me and the way folks get sucked into it.
I`ve clearly touched a raw nerve with a few folks because I`ve expressed a point of view that some aren`t comfortable with. To quote the old saying, 'if the cap fits, wear it'.
Paul
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I like the Speedy Tuesday but I also think Paul makes good points. Paul is a straight talker and I value his opinions. It's a bonus to have someone with his knowledge and watch restoration skills on the forum.
It is a crazy hobby and a lot of it will never make sense.
Surely everyone's entitled to an opinion. Good discussion is the heart of the forum.
I agree with everything walker said and still a little disappointed I missed out on reserving one.
It's definitely a crazy hobby.
And what we need more than any LE speedy are more independent watch repairers.
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If only Omega would stop producing LEs then the vulgar commercialisation around watches will finally have been stamped out
The point that it is a contrived LE is irrelevant to me. I am buying one, for the same reason I buy any watch - because I like it. I like the reverse panda dial with lume and fully brushed case. I expect to wear it more than my other Speedmasters.
What makes you think this will be the case?
It may attract a slight premium for a few months but will then probably be readily available from all the flippers and will bomb-out just like the CK2998 did - there`s plenty of those available. Hardly an investment piece, was it?
Walkerwek has some good points, the amount of grown men on here creaming their pants over this watch is laughable.
CK2998 values have actually held up pretty well and are hovering at a little below RRP, hardly what I would call bombing out! Bearing in mind that there are about a thousand less STs being released all things being equal you should see the latest one do at least as well as the earlier ones in terms of value retention. The very different direct sales model being used here which in effect cuts the dealers out of the loop may have in impact also though it remains to be seen in what way.
I too dislike the tendency to launch LE after LE but the market seems to like it and not a single one seems to have bombed in any significant way. There were plenty of unsold Tin-tins and FOIS about for the past couple of years and good deals were there to be had on them but those two are not LEs in the strict sense and their values have only really firmed now both are out of production.
Oh i'm 100% confident. There are people paying even to swap places in the que. But furthermore there is a price increase but apparently this one will remain the same price which means effectively you are already getting a "discount" so to speak. i doubt anyone will lose a penny on this watch.
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You can never be 100% confident, if enough people decide to dump at the same time, prices will tank but the situation where the west coast of the USA were effectively excluded from applying and the fact that the watch is much cheaper in the UK then elsewhere means that the UK buyer at least should be in a pretty safe position.
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Even though I subscribe to Fratello watches and their Speedy Tuesday blog I missed out because I was in an auditors meeting all day on the day it was announced (now if that doesn't get me some sympathy nothing will) and I would really like one of these to wear in rotation with my 6 other Speedy's. I'm honestly looking to keep - not flip. I'm hoping someone is kind and can help me avoid being bent over by 'Watchgrinder' etc. in my quest for one. I'm in no hurry - a late production one or when the silly premiums have disappeared once they are all produced will be just fine.
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I think a lot of the future resale value of this one will depend on what the new 60th Speedie being announced at Basel will look like. Either way I'm going through with this one.
I must admit I am banking on the 50th Anniversary Apollo 11 being something special.
Any other LE is just filler!
I'm looking forward to the new Speedmaster MC with the racing dial! Hodinkee posted photos of the Speedmaster event and it looks like Raynald was wearing the watch. Pity they didn't have any close ups of the watch..
Not sure if it's been already noted but price has remained the same after price rise.
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Yes. Chap over at Omega forums got a reply from Omega on pricing. It's staying at £4100
That does make the premium over the MW a little easier to bear but a bracelet would have been nice!