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Thread: (Another) New Limited Edition Speedmaster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    I was thinking of doing a trade listing in SC - a brand new ST and a 1965 Ed White is straight trade for a new white dial Ceramic Daytona or a PP Aquanaut. Think anyone would be interested. Shoot me down in flames now and save me a load of time writing a SC post. I was thinking the two together would be worth £15k, either £10k and £5k or £9k and £6k - doesn't really matter, but surely a good deal for anyone who bought at RRP.
    I think that would be a bargain for the Daytona owner. They would be getting two very good watches

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    Personally I wouldn't take that deal as the Daytona will always be rock solid. The jury is still out
    on the ST.

    But give it a go as you have nothing to lose and good luck


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    I thought you had already agreed a trade with a different Omega ? Did that collapse as the ST value fell ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paw3001 View Post
    Personally I wouldn't take that deal as the Daytona will always be rock solid. The jury is still out
    on the ST.

    But give it a go as you have nothing to lose and good luck


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    Fair point, put people are predicting the Daytona to fall slightly, didn't Haywood predict that he expects it to settle around the £13k mark and vintage Speedmasters are going up in price on a daily basis.

    I agree the ST is the issue, but most people seem to think it will eventually settle a little above RRP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paw3001 View Post
    And so I still stand by my current prediction of a price stabilisation of around £5k to £5.5k.

    I doubt it will dip below £5k but I suppose it might stretch to £6k
    Very hard to predict, I missed out on the Snoopy at retail price and not sure how long it took to reach the current value. I suspect, as others have said, that the watches are relatively easy to get hold of (albeit at a cost), but once they've all been delivered and the same-day flippers have flipped it could be a different story and that might lead to further price increases. Simple Supply vs Demand. To me, at least, the watch is significantly different to the usual special editions in the treatment of changes to the dial, hand and case finish. Other limited editions have had much less to differentiate them and yet still they've appreciated from what, in some cases, where reasonable starting points at below rrp. I seem to recall the "TinTin" wasn't all that popular until you couldn't get one... And I know it's not an Omega, but the ceramic Rolex Sea-Dweller could be found below rrp until it was no longer available and then the price shot up significantly (sold mine for around £5.5k which was below what I paid retail which in turn was a discount!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ally- View Post
    I thought you had already agreed a trade with a different Omega ? Did that collapse as the ST value fell ?
    That's no longer on and the watch in question has been sold.

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    Seem to be more than a few QC issues with the ST being picked up. Omega feeling the pressure? No idea, though I can't think that a release of 2000 watches should cause Omega this much trouble in QC

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    3 o'clock sub dial - check the 25 ... not good.
    Oh yes, saw that last night but thought it was my phone screen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Oh yes, saw that last night but thought it was my phone screen!
    Plus the chrono hand seems to be about a minute out.

  10. #1110
    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    3 o'clock sub dial - check the 25 ... not good.
    I see it now and their appears to be problems with other numerals on the sub dials.....perhaps caused by reflections?

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    Found out the reason for mine being delayed... it didn't make it through QC... if the one listed above did, christ knows what state mine was in!

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by paw3001 View Post

    But give it a go as you have nothing to lose and good luck


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    Done.

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    I just checked and the last I heard from Omega was July 12th. Just sent them an e mail asking what's happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    I just checked and the last I heard from Omega was July 12th. Just sent them an e mail asking what's happening.
    This is the one which came in today, perhaps it's in your spam folder? Although you may be luckier & be about to receive a "your watch is at X store, ready for collection" e-mail.

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    Dear Speedy Fan,

    Though we're rapidly approaching the end of September and there's still a very good chance you'll receive your watch in the remaining week, the delivery date may spill over into October.
    We're sorry you still have to wait a little longer, but rest assured, we're working hard to get the watch on your wrist as speedily as possible.

    We will send you an email as soon as your Speedy Tuesday leaves OMEGA.
    Should you have any questions, please ask.

    Best regards,

    Raynald Aeschlimann
    OMEGA President and CEO
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    speedytuesday@omega.ch

    =======================
    Last edited by dkpw; 21st September 2017 at 15:49. Reason: typo

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    Well, they will no doubt turn up. I hope it's worth the wait. I sold my Speedy Pro......

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    Me too.

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    Got call for mine today.
    pick up tomorrow.
    Can anybody tell me if a 2016 speedy pro bracelet will fit the watch or are they different sizes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    I just checked and the last I heard from Omega was July 12th. Just sent them an e mail asking what's happening.
    I received the email from Omega on 21 Aug saying it was "leaving Omega very soon". The watch was delivered to my Omega boutique on 1st Sept, just 10 days later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Got call for mine today.
    pick up tomorrow.
    Can anybody tell me if a 2016 speedy pro bracelet will fit the watch or are they different sizes?
    Yes it will fit just fine. Enjoy the collection.

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    Mine arrived 11 days after the notifiction email.
    FWIW I have a high serial number (in the last 80% of numbers).

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    Can't wait for mine - dead excited

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    That’s the spirit auld yin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    Can't wait for mine - dead excited
    You may be pleasantly surprised when it arrives.

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    It seems a few arrived in Glasgow today then, just not mine :(
    Last edited by -Ally-; 22nd September 2017 at 21:47.

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    Defo 2 today

    only 1 was mine
    Last edited by numberjack; 23rd September 2017 at 13:43.

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    All quiet on the western front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    All quiet on the western front?
    Mine arrived in London over a week ago, but still hasn't arrived for collection at the boutique despite me being told it was being dispatched onward the same day. The boutique are none-the-wiser and the Omega Key Account Manager (who called me) is on leave until the 23rd October and no other contact has been provided. With no apparent way of chasing it up it's continuing to be quite a drawn-out process... This must be quite a learning curve for Omega, which seems to want to control every logistics detail from manufacture-country-boutique-customer centrally but perhaps without the experience to do so.

    Incidentally, the boutique at the Trafford Centre has received 3 and expects another 10 to arrive. They only receive customer details when the watch arrives in London and is prepared for dispatch to them so they can't keep customers informed themselves and are quite apologetic.

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    I got an email from Switzerland 2 October saying the watch would "shortly be leaving Omega". Received a phone call yesterday from the boutique saying the watch had been received and was now available for collection. Picking it up next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbn13 View Post
    I got an email from Switzerland 2 October saying the watch would "shortly be leaving Omega". Received a phone call yesterday from the boutique saying the watch had been received and was now available for collection. Picking it up next week.
    How much do you want for it?

    Pmsl I’m only kidding!!!

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    Picked mine up yesterday
    To be honest it's rather underwhelming. So much so that I am wearing my standard moon watch today instead.




    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    How much do you want for it?

    Pmsl I’m only kidding!!!
    I am working on the basis that it will become one of the rarer models- I.e. one that gets worn and may even pick up a scratch or two along the way.....

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    I am due to collect mine this weekend. In two minds about it. The whole 'greed' thing has put me off. Can't decide.

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    Just wait until you see it. It's one of those which doesn't photograph the same as it looks in real life - it wasn't for me but some love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    Picked mine up yesterday
    To be honest it's rather underwhelming. So much so that I am wearing my standard moon watch today instead.
    Cheers
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    Interesting - does that have anything to do with the totally brushed case - or is it a general feeling?

    Thanks

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    I am due to collect mine this weekend. In two minds about it. The whole 'greed' thing has put me off. Can't decide.
    It's not greedy to buy a watch at list price is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    Interesting - does that have anything to do with the totally brushed case - or is it a general feeling?

    Thanks

    David
    The leather strap is the worst I have ever felt.
    It feels like cheap imitation leather. Its really bad!
    The lume is not as bright on the sub dials as the marketing pictures lead you to believe, the brushed case looks great but it does give it a rougher more unfinished feel. The hands look rough as well.

    There are plus points though -
    The applied logo is great
    The crown is a different shape to the standard watch with deeper groves (at least it looks like it to me) and this makes it easier to wind.
    The lume on the dial (bar sub dials) is fantastic and looks great in the dark. The lumed OMEGA and Speedmaster is especially cool.
    I like the radial markings on the sub dial.







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    ^^^

    Pretty much summed it up. Of all, it was the brushed case that put me off most, though I can understand if someone never owned the original it might not bother them so much.

    Applied logo should be brought back more generally by Omega, it was the nicest bit.
    Last edited by Scepticalist; 13th October 2017 at 18:45.

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    I've heard absolutely Jack sh*t,

    Can only assume my watch was passed on to the reserve list crowd. If it ever appears it will be NOS by then.

    Good job Omega had nothing to do with space missions themselves, Neil and Buzz would still be on their way home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frp422 View Post
    It's not greedy to buy a watch at list price is it?

    Ant
    What I meant was that when I think of the watch, what comes into my mind is all that 'it's going to make me loads of money' stuff. Not the watch itself. Maybe that would wear off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    The leather strap is the worst I have ever felt.
    It feels like cheap imitation leather. Its really bad!
    The lume is not as bright on the sub dials as the marketing pictures lead you to believe, the brushed case looks great but it does give it a rougher more unfinished feel. The hands look rough as well.

    There are plus points though -
    The applied logo is great
    The crown is a different shape to the standard watch with deeper groves (at least it looks like it to me) and this makes it easier to wind.
    The lume on the dial (bar sub dials) is fantastic and looks great in the dark. The lumed OMEGA and Speedmaster is especially cool.
    I like the radial markings on the sub dial.

    Cheers

    John
    Thanks very much for your reply. I've yet to hear about mine but have been swithering recently for a variety of reasons. I think on balance I may prefer a vintage Speedy - I am a sucker for the applied logo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    I've heard absolutely Jack sh*t,

    Can only assume my watch was passed on to the reserve list crowd. If it ever appears it will be NOS by then.

    Good job Omega had nothing to do with space missions themselves, Neil and Buzz would still be on their way home.
    Perhaps they read some of your comments in BP!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    Perhaps they read some of your comments in BP!!
    What can I say other than a very eventful journey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    What can I say other than a very eventful journey
    Have to say the ST has certainly gave us all something to get our teeth into and made me laugh many a time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    Have to say the ST has certainly gave us all something to get our teeth into and made me laugh many a time..
    And cry. A complete pigs ear of a job if you ask me. I am struggling to think of anything that has been so badly handled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    And cry. A complete pigs ear of a job if you ask me. I am struggling to think of anything that has been so badly handled.
    Brexit? Surely. Regardless of one's point of view....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    Brexit? Surely. Regardless of one's point of view....
    Fair point well made. I wonder if Omega have learnt any lessons from this, like we will never do that again.

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    I would guess that Omega regard this as a major marketing success. Why not? All watches sold at full price, no dealer margin, a list of names of keen Omega buyers, Hugh publicity. What's not to like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    I would guess that Omega regard this as a major marketing success. Why not? All watches sold at full price, no dealer margin, a list of names of keen Omega buyers, Hugh publicity. What's not to like?
    If all the watches were sold at full price - who bought mine

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    Omega will sell all these watches at full retail and consider the whole thing a success,no doubt.

    Whilst I remain a fan of the watch, this whole episode has put me off the brand more than I ever was.

    Re. the straps, I’ve read multiple reports of terrible quality and even saw a picture of one that had literally fallen apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ally- View Post
    Omega will sell all these watches at full retail and consider the whole thing a success,no doubt.

    Whilst I remain a fan of the watch, this whole episode has put me off the brand more than I ever was.

    Re. the straps, I’ve read multiple reports of terrible quality and even saw a picture of one that had literally fallen apart.
    Have to say that my experience has all been positive. The communications were fine, they were in keeping with the original promises. i.e. They said summer for delivery. I got a phone call from Omega's Business Development Manager in July confirming imminent arrival in the UK early in August and he was checking that I was ok to collect from the OB in Leeds.

    The watch arrived in the second week of August and I was well looked after when I collected it.

    Can't comment on the quality of the strap as it's a safe queen along with my Silver Snoopy, which is also unworn.

    So for me I'm more of an advocate now than I was previously.

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