Reply With QuoteBlack ties are for funerals only.
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Yes, well, quite. I mean who would...
DON’T wear anything other than a dress watch with black tie. We know, James Bond wears an Omega dive watch, but he’s a spy who may, in fact, get wet wearing a tuxedo.
Black ties are for funerals only.
Really?Originally Posted by even neve
I wouldn't wear a tuxedo to a funeral.
Andy
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Nothing else?
Bit chilly for that.
Forgive me for not giving a damn about what someone else tells me I ought to be wearing. If I want to wear an orange monster with my suit, I'll go right ahead and do so :) Especially if it means I don't end up looking like this *expletive*
Utterly ridiculous.
So it's wrong to wear a dive/sports watch - including Omega Speedmasters or Rolex Subs - with a business suit (thus suggesting that 50% of people in the City have got it wrong), and yet according to the photo halfway down the article it's 'stylish' to wear a dark business suit with the trousers too short, brown shoes and a bowtie... Words fail me.
I'm with hafle - I'll wear what I damn well please...
Simon
Hafle,
Agree with your sentiment.
But, no one should wear an orange monster. Ever. With or without clothes.
BTW, the pic shows how ridiculous the concept of a 'dress watch' is.
Last edited by RAJEN; 10th December 2016 at 20:07.
I've always matched my watch to my activity and the company I'll be keeping, without a thought to my 'outfit'.
So that's where I've been going wrong.
Ideally, a man would want to have five to seven watches in his base collection.
Ah, that's where I've been going wrong
TBF Mr Snieder does put quite a lot of effort into his columns.
His advice on gloves is regarded by those in the know as seminal. (I'm told).
As someone in the scruffy bugger category myself, I aim for my watch choice to distract the critical observer...
(still waiting for that to work, really)
Re:
His advice on gloves is regarded by those in the know as seminal. (I'm told).
A lot of people like him have seminal fluid on their gloves:-)
Last edited by RAJEN; 10th December 2016 at 21:31.
Or possibly a sock.
So wearing my Seadweller to a black tie event last night was wrong?
Didn't feel wrong, felt very right!
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I'm glad I don't care enough about fashion to pay attention to that article.
+1. Any other of my watches would feel wrong.
Martyn
I've never worn a tuxedo so i guess i can safely wear any watch i like at any time?
M
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As an English gentleman, I too have never worn a Tuxedo; I have, however, worn a dinner jacket - but never at the same time as wearing a diving watch. To do so would be as appropriate (nb. this is the key word) as wearing white towelling socks or a red spotted bowtie, although apparently some people think that is acceptable too, as for them it 'feels right', and nobody tells them what 'they ought to be wearing'.
I think the 'dress watch with jacket' rule is officially dead or at least very bendable, though it's a good excuse for an extra watch and will look good. And no one 'needs' a pocket watch, unless they particularly enjoy them.
This though I like:
"DON’T consider a smart watch a “watch”. It’s not – it’s an extension of your phone that you wear on your wrist, and we have yet to see a smart watch that is slim and stylish enough to be considered a true wardrobe accessory. In fact, smart watches (aside from being generally unattractive) only enhance the social problems created by cell phones. As a constant presence on your wrist, they are a distraction that is more likely to make you look rude than attentive to your work. If you must wear one, avoid checking it during in-person interactions. Leave it at home for social occasions as nothing says “I’m not interested in you” more than someone checking an email mid-conversation at 8pm on a Saturday."
Just more first world "sphericals" aimed at those with to much time on their hands
BTW i wear a non date sub with my dinner suit
You utter madman!Just more first world "sphericals" aimed at those with to much time on their hands
BTW i wear a non date sub with my dinner suit
M
Good point - on reflection I did ONCE wear a dinner jacket to a film premiere.
No idea which watch I wore...
M
I have a suit and a dive watch, would never put them together though.
Ha. Edited that for you.
A Sub or an SD can easily worn with a business suit or a tuxedo or a dinner jacket without looking out of place.
May be in 19th century it would look inappropriate- a time where some people seem to be stuck.
A big, gold diamond encrusted monstrosity is a different matter. The whole idea of a dress watch is so yesteryear.
A 34 mm gold watch is as out of place as a monocle or a man wearing sheer stockings under the trousers,today.
Again,strictly an opinion
I do often try and match the watch to what I am wearing or doing. Haven't worn my Submariner with a Dinner Jacket, as if I decide not to wear a "dress watch" with a DJ I prefer to wear my 114270.
All of my watches are dress ones, I dont own a dinner jacket though.
It is all about social conventions and how one looks at those.
I find it most amusing that many on here slag the convention yet in their effort mention wearing a Veblen watch and thus simply confirm adhering to a different social convention.
The dial will *not* be simplistic.A dress watch, relative to other watches, is usually smaller with a rectangular or round shaped dial. The dial will be very simplistic with a plain white, cream, gray or even black face.
It may be simple. It may even be elegant, if you get the right one. But I can guarantee you it won't be simplistic.
Last 'black tie suggested' diner invitation I decided to accept, I chose to ignore the suggestion and I wore no tie, a suede jacket over a purple shirt and sported a 34 mm. 18k three hander on tan leather.
Now imo the proof of the outfit is in the dancing:
Since I was one of very few who could dance and one of even fewer holding that up for longer than half a song, had no shortage of dance partners
This article is almost complete BS. I have only dive watches (well almost) and I wear a suit to work every day. So what, an SD or a Breitling SOP are not good with a suit? The guy who wrote the article should go in the City, Canary Wharf, or Mayfair and tell this to 50% of the people working there. I wear what I like, and I don't care about what some fashion "gurus" are saying.
However I do completely agree with the part where it says that a smartwatch is not a watch.
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Hilarious. Effected and living in another world. Tie bar and collar bar are about the worst dress code mistakes you can make anywhere except the US. Forget what the watch does!
I'll stick happily to wearing my pocket watch and speedos thank you very much.
If you are intending to tap dance on the grave I find it really adds to the spectacle.
Wow,what a rockstar!Last 'black tie suggested' diner invitation I decided to accept, I chose to ignore the suggestion and I wore no tie, a suede jacket over a purple shirt and sported a 34 mm. 18k three hander on tan leather.
Now imo the proof of the outfit is in the dancing:
Since I was one of very few who could dance and one of even fewer holding that up for longer than half a song, had no shortage of dance partners
Pure rock and roll...
I've eliminated the problem of not being able to find the elusive matching sock by wearing the first 2 socks that i pull out of my sock drawer. It doesn't bother me that i'm wearing odd socks most of the time. Similarly i don't give any thought to matching my watch to my outfit. That would hardly be possible in any case because i've got lots of nice watches but no nice clothes
yes the joke is on me and you're welcome, I had no idea "black tie" is a evening dress code.
Wear what you like and be happy I say.
He's welcome to his opinion, as is anyone else, though I CBA to read the article. I've no issue in admitting that I match my watch to what I'm wearing and what I'm doing, I don't feel the need to compare my opinion to that of an "expert".
I think that one should only wear a "diver" (whatever make) with a wet-suit or trunks and a "dress watch"
with a dress. (Usually Friday nights when I'm known as Mary).
What a load of tosh! Just wear what the hell you like. If peeps mark you down because you wearing the "Wrong" watch, that says more about them than you.
K.
I've worked a bit around Canary Wharf and currently around St James. Wearing a piddling dress watch around Canary Wharf (if anybody actually cared) would be out of place as it was Planet Oceans, Seamasters, Royal Oaks, Subs, Breitling, Tag.
Knocking around St James (again if anybody actually cares) I spot the odd young fella with Breguets and maybe heirloom dress watches along with a signet ring. They are probably in hedge funds I'd guess.
If you really are trying to send out signals and social climb I suppose a watch adds a certain subtle signal. I basically don't give a monkeys and wear anything from Orange Monsters, Connies to Seamasters but then I suppose I'm unfortunately not working in funds.
The fella pictured with the polo neck jumper looks a complete (fill in expletives).. Btw. Typical look at me, look at me type.
I thought the same for a long time, I'm sure everyone has at some point, it's a very misleading term. I found out the first time I went to an awards ceremony wearing, you guessed it, a black tie.
I think I'm right in saying that officially speaking, no watch at all should be worn with evening dress, it's rude to even suggest you'd care what time it is and have anywhere else you might need to be during the evening. Even adding a small dress watch is bending the 'rules' as much as wearing a suit jacket with a sports watch - another misleading term, but for better or worse it's what they're called, in spite of the author's possibly useful attempt to reclassify sports and 'casual' watches.
As far as I'm concerned, if anyone wants to tell me that an Oysterquartz, a first gen (ultrathin style) Overseas, or one of the slimmer Royal Oaks doesn't go with a jacket, they need an eye test. The author of the article suggests that 007 pairs a jacket and Aqua Terra or even diving watch mainly to sell watches, but can anyone say (particularly in the case of the 38.5mm AT) that he doesn't also make it look good? And that, in the end, is the only rule you'll ever need.
How funny. I left a reply saying that I thought his opinion was a load of tosh, in a very polite and justified manner, and it's not there
On the rare occasions I'm persuaded to venture out in my dinner jacket, the incongruity of my wristwatch is the least thing causing me discomfort.
Last edited by forpetesake; 13th December 2016 at 12:26.
"Why don't you tell me one more time how to match my watch to my outfit?"
"No Mr. Bond, I expect you to Dine."
Last edited by forpetesake; 13th December 2016 at 18:10.
What a load of old twaddle; if he thinks a Milgauss looks like a Sub then perhaps he really shouldn't be writing about watches at all. The empty space between his head manifests itself further down when he starts to confuse a date with a formal occasion and I'd also like to be present to watch his head explode should he ever be asked to write about Reversos in the context of sports watches. I wear a pocket watch most days but find what he has to say about them ridiculous.
What a twunt.
Someone saw a "gentlemen's style guide" and paid attention to it?? Hilarious.
Rolex seem to have a different view to the author:
https://instagram.com/p/BOKXGWfhysI/
50% of the people don't have a clue I guess
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Post of 2016!
In London, it seems only about 8% of people have a clue!
M.
I'm in that category wearing my piddling Lange 1 dress watch in Canary Wharf... but I know something they don't
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