Patek Philippe buying help/support/enabling (5167,5164,5711 and 5712)

[Volvomanuk]

all good news and will slowly bring things back to normality. There is a ceiling on steel modern watches, better PP take most of the profit than anyone else. I personally think we are nearing the end of this bubble.

will be interesting if PP also decide to make more, rest of their line isn't selling so well so they will need to keep busy somehow.

Make more movements or watches,

I’ve 3 Nautilus 2 steel one gold each time I’ve purchased one from Patek London they spout the line of protecting customers investments, PP are regarded as the best in the world, a 20% rise will make them only more desirable to those who want one, pre-owned prices aren’t just based on RRP price but availability of this quality product, make more no, pay more yes.


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[pitbull666]

Do you not think there will be a price adjustment for these models at Basel? Can’t see them keeping the other sports models at the current level

TBH I’m not sure!

This price rise on the 5711a/5712a has been annouced now but not with effect until the 1st March and Basel is the end of March so it would seem odd to only apply the 20% on two models now and the rest a month later?!

An across the board rise might be on the cards so maybe they are getting the biggest % out the way now and the rest is not going to be as strong a rise!

Also is this rise a response against the grey market prices or an attempt to seperate the SS Aquanaut and Nautilus ranges.

Lots of questions and guess time till tell!

[kultschar]

If its ends up being a rise just for the 5711 / 5712 then I expect it will have a big impact on The Aquanauts which of late have already had a big surge of popularity inc 5164

TBH I’m not sure!

This price rise on the 5711a/5712a has been annouced now but not with effect until the 1st March and Basel is the end of March so it would seem odd to only apply the 20% on two models now and the rest a month later?!

An across the board rise might be on the cards so maybe they are getting the biggest % out the way now and the rest is not going to be as strong a rise!

Also is this rise a response against the grey market prices or an attempt to seperate the SS Aquanaut and Nautilus ranges.

Lots of questions and guess time till tell!

[pitbull666]

If its ends up being a rise just for the 5711 / 5712 then I expect it will have a big impact on The Aquanauts which of late have already had a big surge of popularity inc 5164

Yeah agree they’ll be a knock effect!

I know they use different complications but I was always unsure why the 5712a was slightly cheaper then the 5164a it never sat right, I thought the 5164a was over priced.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see further increases across the range but can’t see the aquanauts going up 20% but you never know!

[Kash]

Yeah agree they’ll be a knock effect!

I know they use different complications but I was always unsure why the 5712a was slightly cheaper then the 5164a it never sat right, I thought the 5164a was over priced.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see further increases across the range but can’t see the aquanauts going up 20% but you never know!

Doubt they will raise prices on the rest of their non sports lines, they can’t shift them as it is.

My take this is a targeted response.

[pitbull666]

Doubt they will raise prices on the rest of their non sports lines, they can’t shift them as it is.

My take this is a targeted response.

The range I referring to was mainly the Nautilus/Aquanauts so yes the sports range

[kultschar]

Doubt they will raise prices on the rest of their non sports lines, they can’t shift them as it is.

My take this is a targeted response.

Hopefully just these two otherwise 5164 might be out of my reach

[Estoril-5]

The world keeps moving, prices will go up. No business stands still

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[GeorgeFalconer]

Being offered the Mil-Spec. Any thoughts?

[crooky13]

That it's not a Patek...

[Omegamanic]

Being offered the Mil-Spec. Any thoughts?

Mil-Spec what though?

[PJ S]

Blancpain Fifty Fathoms?

[MartynJC (UK)]

Doubt they will raise prices on the rest of their non sports lines, they can’t shift them as it is.

My take this is a targeted response.

Have you checked the historic prices across the range? I know my 5146 bought for £15k 11y ago is rather more than that to buy now.

[kultschar]

You chased up your 5167 yet George? Whats the current status?

[GeorgeFalconer]

Blancpain Fifty Fathoms?

yes

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You chased up your 5167 yet George? Whats the current status?

Status is: Dealer says its coming soon...bloody hard to get apparently at the moment.

[Kash]

Have you checked the historic prices across the range? I know my 5146 bought for £15k 11y ago is rather more than that to buy now.

But they were just raised, So no I do not think we will see across the board price rises like this.

[GeorgeFalconer]

Hello lovely people.

Are people interested in a Speedy Tuesday around here?

[Omegamanic]

Hello lovely people.

Are people interested in a Speedy Tuesday around here?

In general, or on the Patek thread - I think lots of us are interested in the Speedy Tuesday.

[MartynJC (UK)]

Hello lovely people.

Are people interested in a Speedy Tuesday around here?

Of course we are george. I have one as do some other folks. I am also interested in a 5167A-001 if you have one going?

Martyn

[GeorgeFalconer]

In general, or on the Patek thread - I think lots of us are interested in the Speedy Tuesday.

I might have one for sale if anyone is interested. I dont think I am allowed to post in the sales corner yet.

[MartynJC (UK)]

I might have one for sale if anyone is interested. I dont think I am allowed to post in the sales corner yet.

Oh dear! Watch out for the flames and pitch forks. I’m sure they’ll be along soon :-)

[GeorgeFalconer]

Oh dear! Watch out for the flames and pitch forks. I’m sure they’ll be along soon :-)

:-(

[mtagrant]

7 more posts and the promised land will be here....

Would love to see pics of your Patek as you must have 1 or 2 by now?

[Andyc319]

7 more posts and the promised land will be here....

Would love to see pics of your Patek as you must have 1 or 2 by now?

At least one of each by now surely?

[haberdashery]

It’s all fun and games until you get the call...

I got the call for a 5712-1A last week and will probably be collecting it next weekend. Seemed like a good idea to express my interest a few times (albeit mainly for the 5711, but we did discuss the 5712). Never thought the AD would come through as I have no buying history with them and they always look at me like a peasant when I traipse in their showroom.

Anyway, I can have the watch if I want it. It’s just at over 30.5k it seems like one heck of a lot of money. I don’t need to shift any pieces to bring it in, but if the Mrs catches wind I will probably have to move a couple on to keep her sweet.

The 5712 is my longest standing grail. I initially put my name down for a 5711 (as more of an “entry level” Patek), but they offered me this instead and said I can have the next blue 5711 as well. I won’t be buying the 5712 for that reason though, as this was the grail all along - it’s just come 5 years or so before I envisaged.

Go on, enable me please with pictures and platitudes!

[cmcm3]

Mrs cmcm3's 5712 for your enablement...

[Cinch]

I'm fortunate to have both but if I had to choose I'd opt for the 12.


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[haberdashery]

Thanks for the shots and comments, guys.

Went to bed last night very excited and woke up this morning dead set against it??

Sometimes I think impulse purchases are better because you don’t have time to over think it. As it is, I’ll have had 10 days or so to talk myself out of it.

Still haven’t decided yes or no, but I’m leaning towards no at the moment and driving myself nuts in the process.

The main kicker for me is the massive price rise which leaves a bit of a bad taste, especially on the 5712 where it was over five grand!

[GeorgeFalconer]

Thanks for the shots and comments, guys.

Went to bed last night very excited and woke up this morning dead set against it??

Sometimes I think impulse purchases are better because you don’t have time to over think it. As it is, I’ll have had 10 days or so to talk myself out of it.

Still haven’t decided yes or no, but I’m leaning towards no at the moment and driving myself nuts in the process.

The main kicker for me is the massive price rise which leaves a bit of a bad taste, especially on the 5712 where it was over five grand!

Whats the RRP of a 5712 in steel currently?

[haberdashery]

Whats the RRP of a 5712 in steel currently?

It’s £30,530 at the moment.

[GeorgeFalconer]

It’s £30,530 at the moment.

thats a lot of dough. put 5k on and buy a 15202 solid gold

[MartynJC (UK)]

thats a lot of dough. put 5k on and buy a 15202 solid gold

So George - have you taken delivery yet? Seems like you've been considering since Nov 2016 - have you decided?

[haberdashery]

I collected it today. I nearly didn’t, I had buyers remorse before I’d even bought it, but eventually convinced myself to go along and “have a little look” - in the end I couldn’t get my debit card out fast enough after seeing the watch.

Thanks again for the shots cmcm3 and Cinch, I appreciate it.

George, it’s over to you now pal! Don’t let us down.

[Cinch]

Congratulations! It is a lot of money but should you change your mind you will no doubt make a profit on it. Having said that when it's on your wrist it's really difficult to give it up. Enjoy

[Devonian]

I collected it today. I nearly didn’t, I had buyers remorse before I’d even bought it, but eventually convinced myself to go along and “have a little look” - in the end I couldn’t get my debit card out fast enough after seeing the watch.

Thanks again for the shots cmcm3 and Cinch, I appreciate it.

George, it’s over to you now pal! Don’t let us down.

Congrats, great looking watch.

Pressure is all on Georgie boy to produce the goods now after what seems like a lifetime.

[GeorgeFalconer]

Congrats, great looking watch.

Pressure is all on Georgie boy to produce the goods now after what seems like a lifetime.

I am picking up on Monday old boy

[GeorgeFalconer]

On Monday it is all coming to an end. Perhaps we can shit this thread after it has produced more than 50.000 hits.

[seikopath]

Deffo a slow worm

[haberdashery]

Congratulations! It is a lot of money but should you change your mind you will no doubt make a profit on it. Having said that when it's on your wrist it's really difficult to give it up. Enjoy

Agreed! It’s a lovely bit of kit, I can’t see myself parting with it. I read a few different reviews online and thought I’d hate it, but when I tried it on it sang to me.

Congrats, great looking watch.

Pressure is all on Georgie boy to produce the goods now after what seems like a lifetime.

Thanks!

[kultschar]

Congrats!!!!!!!

Love the 5712 and often wonder if my 5711 was the right choice, however I change my view every other day!!

Buyers remorse? Nah you will never make a loss if you one day sell, you cant go wrong with these!!!!

[MartynJC (UK)]

I’ll be getting my 5167A-001 next week! Yeh!!

[ddm27]

I’ll be getting my 5167A-001 next week! Yeh!!

Congrats! Do you mind if I ask what the wait time was, and also the RRP?


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[GeorgeFalconer]

I’ll be getting my 5167A-001 next week! Yeh!!

me too yesssss baby finally. maybe they are sending them out in one batch.

[MartynJC (UK)]

Congrats! Do you mind if I ask what the wait time was, and also the RRP?


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actually from Blowers- mine has to go to Patek Service Centre as it was DOA so had to wait 15weeks or so - agony! MRP is about £14,500 - I paid a little over that. I tried AD in three countries , UK, HK, Canada all said waiting lists - either closed or 5+ years.

[ddm27]

I’ll be getting my 5167A-001 next week! Yeh!!

Congrats! Do you mind if I ask what the wait time was, and also the RRP?


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[ddm27]

Sorry, ignore the double post!


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[MartynJC (UK)]

me too yesssss baby finally. maybe they are sending them out in one batch.

What didyou buy?

[GeorgeFalconer]

What didyou buy?

Same. 5167a

[Kash]

Same. 5167a

Please share a pic in the week, would be nice to see it.

[Skyman]

Same. 5167a

I’ll play. Pics would be great to see.