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    Shameful of Panerai

    http://www.ablogtowatch.com/panerai-...raved-watches/

    Utter cxxxs. They just lost a potential customer.

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    Why???

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Why???
    Well, depending on your viewpoint, something that appears to celebrate killing animals for fun really isn't something I'd want on my wrist, even if it wasn't hideous.

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    Very poor taste.

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    Not my thing- engraving or hunting.
    Still, it sounds like an overreaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Not my thing- engraving or hunting.
    Still, it sounds like an overreaction.
    My point exactly.

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    Not really Panerai's fault, is it?
    Apparently Richemont group owns them and the gunmakers..
    Poor taste nonetheless


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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Not my thing- engraving or hunting.
    Still, it sounds like an overreaction.
    Lion, Rhino, Leopard, Elephant!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooster View Post
    http://www.ablogtowatch.com/panerai-...raved-watches/

    Utter cxxxs. They just lost a potential customer.
    What is the problem? You are under no obligation to buy the watch. Just another marketing tool used by a manufacturer to sell their products.

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    Did any animals die in the making of the watch?
    Plenty of people seem happy to wear copies of Luftwaffe pilots watches without thinking it's going to cause a blitzkrieg and the killing of innocent children.

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    I see the OP's problem, and completely agree. Having that monstrosity coming out of the factory de-values the rest of the range a little, completely and utterly snobbish behaviour but who cares, with a luxury item such as a watch - at the prices Panerai go for, we're entitled to feel that way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Very poor taste.
    Sums up Panerai in general for me.
    "A man of little significance"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmith View Post
    Plenty of people seem happy to wear copies of Luftwaffe pilots watches without thinking it's going to cause a blitzkrieg and the killing of innocent children.
    The Luftwaffe are no longer blitzkrieging and killing innocent children, tossers (American dentists, Spanish royalty, etc.) are still killing big game.

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    Not for me but there must be enough people willing to pull the trigger on that bad boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajpac View Post
    You are under no obligation to buy the watch.
    I think the OP managed to figure that out for himself



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    The way things are going, give it 50 years - maybe only 20 - and the only place you'll see these animals is in pictures. Why anyone would want to shoot one is totally beyond my comprehension, and whilst the workmanship involved in these engravings is undoubtedly amazing, the result is garish tat

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    Also AblogtoWatch should be ashamed of their review:

    "If you need a shot of classy, old-timey testosterone, this seems like an good option"

    What is classy about shooting wild animals for fun? Given many of the animals are the fully grown adult animals how about anyone who wants to shoot an animal has to have their own parent shot first (then they can have a licence knowing how it feels) by someone who enjoys killing people (perhaps a jailed murderer, because we lock them away)

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    In bad taste in my opinion . Don't see anything wrong with the association with Purdy but the dual link with these beautiful animals , calling them game basically sends a bad message .
    I don't like Big game hunting , I don't think it has a place in modern society , it achieves nothing and lends itself to being a motivator for a negative impact on the tireless work spent in saving endangered species .
    Modern guns are extremely powerful and remove any real skill hunters had decades ago . All to create a pose picture and feel brave and empowered , quite sad and pathetic .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    The Luftwaffe are no longer blitzkrieging and killing innocent children, tossers (American dentists, Spanish royalty, etc.) are still killing big game.
    Ha!
    Poor American dentists:-)
    Can't castigate a whole group because of one guy.
    I can't see the thrill or joy in hunting and if it was upto me,I would outlaw it but as things stand,it is not illegal.
    I refuse to castigate Panerai for something like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy100 View Post
    Sums up Panerai in general for me.
    Really? I think they look great with driving gloves:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmith View Post
    Did any animals die in the making of the watch?
    Plenty of people seem happy to wear copies of Luftwaffe pilots watches without thinking it's going to cause a blitzkrieg and the killing of innocent children.
    Let's not forget what purpose Panerai were first produced for...

    Re the OP I do think they are hideous and are in poor taste but you can buy an elephant or other exotic animal skin strap for your Panerai so not really surprised.

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    Pretty shocked at this I have to say, they do seem to drop some right clangers thinking previous Brooklyn Bridge scandal.
    This one though! They've gone down a route that virtually every social media outlet will castigate to gain a few customers who like shooting endangered species. It's really like 40 years behind modern society.
    Just a note about watches celebrating the Luftwaffe etc. Yes there is an issue about celebrating war but we do need to remember that carpet bombing of cities was a horrendous blunt tool used by all sides (though first used by Germany during the Spanish civil war). One arguament around this does not justify the celebration of big 5 kills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandS View Post
    Another day in the life of the wonderful Richmond group.
    Where would wealthy people with terrible taste be without them?

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    You could always use the watch for target practice.

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    At least in this case no animals gets harmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Ha!
    Poor American dentists:-)
    Can't castigate a whole group because of one guy.
    I can't see the thrill or joy in hunting and if it was upto me,I would outlaw it but as things stand,it is not illegal.
    I refuse to castigate Panerai for something like this.

    Blimey, the older I get, the more I agree with Raj. Odd.

    I would never hunt on safari but I really like that engraving of the leopard. If you like Panerai, why not? If you are going to wear something that glorifies torpedoing Allied shipping...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobDad View Post
    The way things are going, give it 50 years - maybe only 20 - and the only place you'll see these animals is in pictures. Why anyone would want to shoot one is totally beyond my comprehension, and whilst the workmanship involved in these engravings is undoubtedly amazing, the result is garish tat

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    well said

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    They are a luxury brand selling primarily to a luxury market and presumably there are plenty of customers out there who will buy them.

    While I understand the distaste for the idea of hunting surely that should be for all forms of hunting not just specific animals?

    Taking aside the moral issue here the craftsmanship of the cases looks superb. I am sure the price is pretty eye watering too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP Chestnut View Post
    Where would wealthy people with terrible taste be without them?
    buying garish yacht masters or gold encrusted Rolex [maybe]

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    No trophy hunting/culling, no conservation of species end of.

    watch is not to my liking though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    Lion, Rhino, Leopard, Elephant!!!


    What is the other one? It looks a bit like trump.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    What is the other one? It looks a bit like trump.
    Water buffalo?






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    this is a distressing list and that's just the first page

    https://www.worldwildlife.org/specie...inction_status



    Common name

    Scientific name

    Conservation status ↓


    Amur Leopard Panthera pardus orientalis Critically Endangered
    Black Rhino Diceros bicornis Critically Endangered
    Bornean Orangutan Pongo pygmaeus Critically Endangered
    Cross River Gorilla Gorilla gorilla diehli Critically Endangered
    Eastern Lowland Gorilla Gorilla beringei graueri Critically Endangered
    Hawksbill Turtle Eretmochelys imbricata Critically Endangered
    Javan Rhino Rhinoceros sondaicus Critically Endangered
    Leatherback Turtle Dermochelys coriacea Critically Endangered
    Mountain Gorilla Gorilla beringei beringei Critically Endangered
    Orangutan Pongo abelii, Pongo pygmaeus Critically Endangered
    Pangolin Critically Endangered
    Saola Pseudoryx nghetinhensis Critically Endangered
    South China Tiger Panthera tigris amoyensis Critically Endangered
    Sumatran Elephant Elephas maximus sumatranus Critically Endangered
    Sumatran Orangutan Pongo abelii Critically Endangered
    Sumatran Rhino Dicerorhinus sumatrensis Critically Endangered
    Sumatran Tiger Panthera tigris sumatrae Critically Endangered
    Vaquita Phocoena sinus Critically Endangered
    Western Lowland Gorilla Gorilla gorilla gorilla Critically Endangered
    African Wild Dog Lycaon pictus Endangered
    Amur Tiger Panthera tigris altaica Endangered
    Asian Elephant Elephas maximus indicus Endangered
    Bengal Tiger Panthera tigris tigris Endangered
    Black-footed Ferret Mustela nigripes Endangered
    Blue Whale Balaenoptera musculus Endangered
    Bluefin Tuna Thunnus spp Endangered
    Bonobo Pan paniscus Endangered
    Borneo Pygmy Elephant Elephas maximus borneensis Endangered
    Chimpanzee Pan troglodytes Endangered
    Fin Whale Balaenoptera physalus Endangered
    Galápagos Penguin Spheniscus mendiculus Endangered
    Ganges River Dolphin Platanista gangetica gangetica Endangered
    Green Turtle Chelonia mydas Endangered
    Hector's Dolphin Cephalorhynchus hectori Endangered
    Humphead Wrasse Cheilinus undulatus Endangered
    Indian Elephant Elephas maximus indicus Endangered
    Indochinese Tiger Panthera tigris corbetti Endangered
    Indus River Dolphin Platanista minor Endangered
    Malayan Tiger Panthera tigris jacksoni Endangered
    North Atlantic Right Whale Eubalaena glacialis Endangered
    Red Panda Ailurus fulgens Endangered
    Sea Lions Zalophus wollebaeki Endangered
    Sei Whale Balaenoptera borealis Endangered
    Snow Leopard Panthera uncia Endangered
    Sri Lankan Elephant Elephas maximus maximus Endangered
    Tiger Panthera tigris Endangered
    Whale Balaenoptera, Balaena, Eschrichtius, and Eubalaen Endangered
    African Elephant Loxodonta africana Vulnerable
    Bigeye Tuna Thunnus obesus Vulnerable
    Black Spider Monkey Ateles paniscus Vulnerable

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    Seem's to be poor taste anything that promotes the shooting of endangered animals.

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    Just because the range depicts the big five doesn't mean that it's intended to depict them as targets. Appreciate that some may take this as implied by the fact that Purdey are involved.

    Lots of companies have done collaborations with companies like Purdey. Holland and Holland have teamed up with Land Rover - would the OP refuse to buy any of their cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    Water buffalo?






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    Can't see what watch the guy is wearing.. Maybe it's a Timex.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    I refuse to castigate Panerai for something like this.
    I don't.
    Have you seen their serial killer range? The Manson one is cool but the Sutcliffe one doesn't even look like him.
    Last edited by rgwarden; 15th November 2016 at 22:32. Reason: Typo

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    The biggest endangered species on the forum is 'people with taste':-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    The biggest endangered species on the forum is 'people with taste':-)
    Not forgetting those unfortunate males who cannot carry off a male sized watch ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Can't see what watch the guy is wearing.. Maybe it's a Timex.
    It's a grand Seiko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnsey66 View Post
    Not forgetting those unfortunate males who cannot carry off a male sized watch ;-)
    Or should that read a 'beast' of a watch ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by crooky13 View Post
    Just because the range depicts the big five doesn't mean that it's intended to depict them as targets. Appreciate that some may take this as implied by the fact that Purdey are involved.

    Lots of companies have done collaborations with companies like Purdey. Holland and Holland have teamed up with Land Rover - would the OP refuse to buy any of their cars?
    May take it as implied ?? What Big game animals and Purdey guns ?? ..............Seriously ?

    What about male anal sex toys advertised on cans of lubricant ...

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    Those particular Panerais are ugly watches for ugly people. The sad part is that there is clearly a market for this kind of tat......... mind you, you should see some of the scenes on custom Zippo lighters!

    Would it stop me buying a Panerai? No, the standard designs (and the prices) do that for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by crooky13 View Post
    Just because the range depicts the big five doesn't mean that it's intended to depict them as targets. Appreciate that some may take this as implied by the fact that Purdey are involved.

    Lots of companies have done collaborations with companies like Purdey. Holland and Holland have teamed up with Land Rover - would the OP refuse to buy any of their cars?
    Now that would look really cool parked in the drive, the neighbours would be reet envious Land Rover for Holland and Holland and painted in leopard print.

    I'm just not man enough to drive such a beast.


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    The whole Panerai brand is based around WW2 nostalgia marketing. Whilst I agree it's in completely in bad taste to celebrate and commemorate hunting wild animals, it's no worse than this...


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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    It looks a bit like trump.
    Better not tell his sons that, as 'big game' hunters they might shoot him by mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    The whole Panerai brand is based around WW2 nostalgia marketing. Whilst I agree it's in completely in bad taste to celebrate and commemorate hunting wild animals, it's no worse than this...

    Dear God, now that's just wrong!

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    At least they didn`t put it on an alligator strap..

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Dear God, now that's just wrong!
    Two rubberclad men riding a huge throbbing mechanical phallus? What's not to like?
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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