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    Everyday Flieger for £500-ish?

    Hello All!
    I'm getting a IWC pilots chrono for my impending 40th, but would like a beater watch in a similar style.
    It doesn't need to be a bonafide flieger or a chrono, but that classic style, nice and simple high visibility.
    The previous recs seem to be around Sinn and Stowa, but the days of them being ~£500 are gone it seems which is a shame. I'd have loved a 358.
    I have checked out Archimede, Steinhart, Laco. An auto would be great, around 44mm-ish but quartz is not necessarily a dealbreaker.
    Oh, and I'm not a huge fan of the tapered crown. I'd have plainly bought a speedbird if it were bigger, I really love the look of that watch. I tried on a IWC mark, and it was too small.
    Am I looking for rocking horse poo?

    Any help greatfully received.

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    Sorry read whole post in future!!

    How about something from Oris (BC3 etc)
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    Something from Laco?

    Quartz chrono: Trier
    Three hand auto: Düsseldorf

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    Something from Laco?

    Quartz chrono: Trier
    Three hand auto: Düsseldorf
    Uncanny! They are the two I like the look of, the Trier particularly.
    Wondering if I could spend a bit more and get a bit more in terms of movement with the same kind of look?

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    2nd hand fortis they are pretty genuine with their flying pedigree. From £543 on Chrono 24 that's a £500 deal including postage all day long.

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    Perhaps Kemmner

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    How about a Laco, should be able to get one for under £500 pretty easily and I think they're pretty close in looks to the original watches


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    Quote Originally Posted by hicksmat View Post



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    Ooh nice. very Sinn-ey. Is there an online resource for his stuffs?
    Also strangely drawn to the Maratac Pilot. Prob the large;

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbsie View Post
    Ooh nice. very Sinn-ey. Is there an online resource for his stuffs?
    Also strangely drawn to the Maratac Pilot. Prob the large;
    eBay. Just search kemmner and you will find him. I'd email him as he's not offering these now but may have some lying around. Looking at £600 ish for a valjoux 7750. I think this is a perfect homage for the IWC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    I can't see it buddy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbsie View Post
    I can't see it buddy?
    On Sales a corner for £450 plus shipping.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    On Sales a corner for £450 plus shipping.
    Is that a quartz?

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    Another vote for a Fortis, heres mine


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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis View Post
    Another vote for a Fortis, heres mine
    Lovely. PVD wouldn't last 2 minutes with me though!
    I like the steinhart nav in ti, but I just couldn't like with that crown. It's massive!
    Shame as it has the look, the movement, the quality and the price.

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    Speedbird III.
    Can't buy anything better for that money, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbsie View Post
    Is that a quartz?
    Yes - details here

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    On Sales a corner for £450 plus shipping.

    I'm wearing the non PVD panda dial Startimer and I have to say the quality is outstanding...

    Steinhart also do a nice Flieger for £350ish - not chrono like the Alpina but a really nice watch nonetheless...

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    A used DA36/37 or DA46/47 can usually be had for around £500.



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    Quote Originally Posted by benny.c View Post
    A used DA36/37 or DA46/47 can usually be had for around £500.


    My choice also. The looks aren't as classic as the Luftwaffe inspired watches but the Damasko is the real deal when it comes to legible tool watch. The case being near bullet proof is a big bonus too. At £500 a DA36 feels a lot more special than for instance an Archimede or Steinhart.

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    First you need to make sure you know what a flieger/aviation watch is. With thanks to Crusader. ;-)
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    Whilst a little above your budget I'd love to try Eddies latest precista b-uhr.

    But then again I'm probably just missing my GO senator navigator


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon76 View Post
    Whilst a little above your budget I'd love to try Eddies latest precista b-uhr.
    I can't stomach that crown I'm afraid, I haven't worn a watch with any regularity in recent times and one of the reasons is sticky-out crowns. Gimme a knurled bolt anyday, or even better something off centre. Maybe what I am after isn't a true flieger and I need to open my searches a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbsie View Post
    I can't stomach that crown I'm afraid, I haven't worn a watch with any regularity in recent times and one of the reasons is sticky-out crowns. Gimme a knurled bolt anyday, or even better something off centre. Maybe what I am after isn't a true flieger and I need to open my searches a bit.
    In that case whilst not a true flieger, a 2nd hand damsko is probably the best bang for your buck. I've a DA46 which I love, quality far exceeds its price in my opinion


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon76 View Post
    In that case whilst not a true flieger, a 2nd hand damsko is probably the best bang for your buck. I've a DA46 which I love, quality far exceeds its price in my opinion


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    Well maybe not a flieger in the classic 1940s sense of the word but bear in mind that a proportion of Damasko's output has ended up fulfilling military or EADS test pilot contracts so they are used for flight purposes and if you were German could call them fliegers at a push! I think this is more true of the chronos but the 3 hander shares the excellent case tech and unbeatable legibility. In fact the only minor drawback wth Damaskos that I can see it that the lume isn't super bright on any of them, including the full lumes.

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    I have a couple: this 45mm Archimede auto, plus a Stowa Ikarus which I don't seem to have a pic for, but is iirc 39mm and has a superb grey slightly sparkly dial. Pic in the morning!


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    How about something Russian with the classic Poljot 3133 mechanical movement inside?







    Julian Kampmann at poljot24.de is a great seller and has quite a few to choose from. He's not the cheapest though.

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    Update. With thanks to padders, gordon and benny, I had a closer look into Damasko.
    The engineering (I'm an engineer), military association (I'm ex-military) and made in germany (I love german stuffs) associated with the brand on top of them being very hardwearing (typical clumsy bloke) I think I'll get a DA38. Or maybe a 39.....
    It's smaller than I'd like but I tried on a Tudor Ranger and it was OK. I think it would be a nice IDGAF to all of those massive shiney chrono (nothing wrong with the watches!) wearing chappies I always seem to be in meetings with.
    Seems like that's how they measure their jakes. Well, I have a massive jake* and I don't need a massive watch : )

    *I may have made this up.

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    Good choice I reckon, you can't go far wrong with a Damasko.

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    A Damasko is a sensible choice for your purpose, the case and crown are extremely resistant to everyday wear, my DA37 and DC56 still look fresh after 10 & 8 years of wear, respectively. Also a Damasko will look different enough to your IWC to ensure you feel you are wearing watches that contrast each other when swapping over, much better than having something very similar IMHO, it makes you appreciate each watch more.
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    Thanks all.
    Pulled the......nearly forgot myself there!
    Purchased a DA38 through Jura still 10% off for black friday. I do wish I could have got a DB4, but customs, bank exchange rates etc ain't to be messed with.
    Off to Toshi to grab a nice brown leather to put it on now.

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    Bravo, great choice IMO. Hope it suits and you like it.

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    Thanks Padders. I deliberated far too much between the black or white face, brished or black case, strap or bracelet.
    I'm trawling google images and still not convinced that I have made the right choice. I feel a little agitated to be honest!
    I think I should have got the bracelet. Do they pop up for sale on here every now and then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbsie View Post
    Thanks Padders. I deliberated far too much between the black or white face, brished or black case, strap or bracelet.
    I'm trawling google images and still not convinced that I have made the right choice. I feel a little agitated to be honest!
    I think I should have got the bracelet. Do they pop up for sale on here every now and then?
    Can't help with your angst Re: the bracelet which does look very good and is clearly very well engineered but is wincingly expensive. I am not one for PVD coatings so never had that dilemma but at one point I owned both black dial 36 and white dial 37. The 37 was a big disappointment and was moved on. I still have the DA36: I think you chose right with the black dial.
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    Thanks for the reassurance padders.
    What strap did/do you put on your 36?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbsie View Post
    Thanks for the reassurance padders.
    What strap did/do you put on your 36?
    I quite like the original which is a Damasko specific Di Modell Chronissimo but others like the Hirsch Robby and Hirsch Liberty. They actually look surprisingly good on a brown strap even though you would expect the black dial and grey case to only suit black. Do a google image search on Damasko strap and you will get dozens of options that look great.

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    Well, I did indeed buy a damask, put it on a toshi phantom. Initially I though it was a bit small, but I really like it now and the strap is lovely.
    I'm looking around for deals on Pelagos' now.......

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