Reply With QuoteI don't give a crap about buying a Rolex so will try and get on "a list" and then do subject access requests as nobody wants to chance it .
Never thought I would like TT, but the black dial one was lovely, little bit shouty though.Originally Posted by learningtofly
Was offered recently, but really only want one more watch and that is an LV sub.
If I am not on a list & don't get one in 3 years for my 50th, I won't bother.
I am not doing grey for myself, my end game is easy therefore & saves me money.
I don't give a crap about buying a Rolex so will try and get on "a list" and then do subject access requests as nobody wants to chance it .
Hard to come by in the UK too, whether 36mm or 41mm (36mm arguably more so). The one ‘reported’ would have been an exhibition model.
Lots of speculative smoke and mirrors on this thread.
I admire your attitude, sir, but do you really want to masquerade as a pathetic genuflecting lickspittle, however briefly?
It's a good point!
Certainly hope so.
Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!
Only Farage would want a Sprite, a hideous invention that makes me feel nauseous looking at it and if it wasn’t over RRP the expression of interest would be close to zero. Total bragging rights watch whose novelty will fade fast and does not look good with anything.
RIAC
Why?
Best I have seen for while is black bay with a custom dial for £40k
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Possibly because it gets prices back to where they should be, RRP for new and a little under for used, too many Rolex and the odd Omega owner that only has / buys because they are a profit scheme rather than actually wanting them. People sitting on them in the desperate hope they discontinue and rocket in value which is less likely by the hour. New innovations from Rolex and the watch world are making sure that quality is there in modern releases.
Interesting also to see the exhibition casebacks appearing and expect to see them filter down the range to SS in good time, this not only encourages a nicer aesthetic movement, reduces the growing problem of faked CNC Rolex internals that are in half the watches on the circuit but more importantly adds to the pleasure of ownership. I would like to see this as an option rather than a given but think most will chose exhibition casebacks given the choice.
RIAC
One of those in Glasgow boutique window today
A real standout dial.
No idea of cost
Everything exhibition only
^ each to their own, but that’s fugly as a fugly thing!
Around £36k Retail and nice on the right lady
One of those in Glasgow boutique window today
A real standout dial.
No idea of cost
Everything exhibition only
RIAC
So true.
Do you think it's that many?
In the right (wrong) circles yes 100%, no one finds out till they have a Rolex service usually and a lot of them don’t see Rolex
RIAC
Are you saying all the people not playing the Rolex game are still not playing the Rolex game and letting us know they still aren’t playing the Rolex game?
That one’s sort of ok until you get to the diamonds, then yuck.
Absolutely
I'm not a diamonds man yet.
If you look at it on the configuration gizmo you wouldn't think much but honestly in the flesh it's really something.
As Kerry said on the right supermodel .....
worth a watch
https://youtu.be/6KUn0qx_Jrw
RIAC
Windsor Bishop in Norwich had the new two tone GMT with the black and grey bezel in the window today.
Did have a price on, £13k and change IIRC, but there was also a little 'exhibition only' sign next to the display.
First time I've seen a GMT in there for years but I don't look that regularly.
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I’ve had three pieces from them the last being a Pepsi on a Jubilee back in April. I am popping in next week to discuss something else so will be interesting to see how my enquiry pans out.
Pitch
Rolex is York had a full window display!
ND sub,
Sub
Sea dweller
Root beer
Lots of others
Did not go in so not sure if they are “display” only or actually for sale
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What are you aiming for next Paul? Winsor Bishop are a great independent AD to deal with. Hope you’re well buddy.
MSRP is £13,850 and not a chance it’s not an exhibition piece.
As above, they’ll certainly be exhibition pieces.
All is okay Gareth and trusting you are keeping well buddy.
I fancy the green GMT or the challenger, oh and the white faced unthinkable
But, the Reverso Small Seconds is shouting louder at the mo.
Paul
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Challenger is seriously tempting.
I’ve asked to try one on before deciding but really do want to try one on.
Yep, with you 100%. Want to try all three and decide. Of course depending on if I will be lucky enough to be added to the list.
Paul
As ever, living the dream here mate.
I’ve got the Green GMT on Oyster and it’s a watch you have get on the wrist (left or right) to “get’ as there’s a lot of nonsense spoken about it here..
I’ve yet to try on the Deep Sea Challenge but from what I hear if you aren’t a man mountain (like Dwayne Johnson) it’s just a bit daft.
Love a classy JLC too 👍
I think with your plus sized wrist it could, maybe, work.
£22k punt is a bit too strong for me. I would have to try it on first. If there was a more interesting dial it would be an easier choice.
Good luck getting one at list!
Took me years to realise but anything I buy above list elsewhere goes out the door quicker than it came in.
I’m sure it’s a very low production model so hopefully the wait isn’t as brutal as the other prom queens if the lords deem you worthy of adding it to your wish list.
I have seen one in the cabinet and it really is outrageous! I didn't even try it on as it was so obese that it probably would have broke my wrist! Definitely one to try before you buy as noted.
That's good enough for me and scrubbed off the list.
Pitch
See pics below. Although honestly it looks vaguely normal in pics vs reality !
Fairly accurate assessment of the market from all quarters in one video,
https://youtu.be/7DisjfJSfsU
RIAC
Thank you for sharing and really as we (most of us???) all thought.
I feel there is still a little way to go before the world settles down and takes stock. Then.....off we go again......
Pitch
I tried one on some time ago. Despite my often wearing a 47mm PAM, and having onwed DSSD, it felt outrageously huge.
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Im my opinion we haven’t reached bottom yet
February ,march 24 is when we’ll get an actual idea of where prices will be. And there will be a period of at least 4 years of slow growth in watch prices mainly due to only 50% of mortgage market going through refinancing at higher rates leaving the other 50%to go through still . Coupled with the amount of money during Covid that was pumped into the economy which I don’t see those levels being reached any time soon again. Again only my opinion.
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I’m not sure when we reach the bottom really matters.
For new stuff, if that’s what you want, availability can only get better. That’s a good thing if you wish to be in that market.
If you want something older but desirable to you, prices may fall a bit, but I would still buy the right watch now, if it came up. The only exception to that might be stuff like the Hulk, that is discontinued but still hot.
Dave
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Very surprised at the comment about the SD43 being in demand. I thought they were really unloved.
I’ve seen several of these second hand very close to list, £11.2 to £11.5 territory. Obviously unworn stickered examples will cost more.
Interesting video. Shame the guy didn’t touch on the Milgauss. Too much attention to the PM and big bucks end of the market.
They are really unloved. Makes me question how honest (or knowledgeable) the honest watch dealer is.
Too right! High borrowing costs to fund the purchase for flippers and falling margins means it’s no longer zero risk. Obviously on top of the general economic issues.
Was going to call in to my AD on a rare trip into town. Couldn’t be bothered in the end. If they ever want to sell me something, they know where I am!
Perhaps they’re popular on the secondary market because they’re only a few quid over retail?
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Probably got a lot to flog.
On which micro demographic? Here? In the real world they are a strong watch and in the trade always in demand if priced accordingly
RIAC
Might be wrong but I assumed PM models were the last to go up so first to go down would make sense.
Milguass pricing has always been rather random when I’ve looked. Some looking way over and others borderline reasonable! Obviously discontinuation will play a part.
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