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Thread: Amazing what you can find in the back of a safe.. *MONDAY UPDATE*

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    Amazing what you can find in the back of a safe.. *MONDAY UPDATE*

    I recently contacted a local (to me) Authorized Rolex dealer about a 5513.

    Well, he only had one ready for sale, recently serviced, it was a gloss dial from 1988, not a big fan of the gloss dial so declined it.

    10 minuets later I get a call back informing me that he has found a 1978 Matt dialed 5513 right at the back of the safe..

    Well that was yesterday and today I went to veiw it.

    Well, I just couldn't resist -




    All original (As far as I can see) too which is great, it's also never been re-finished.

    It has been sitting in the safe for 20 Years, so a service it probably due, he quickly put it on the timing machine and the accuracy was very good.

    He usually won't sell a watch prior to a full service, but i have brought a few Rolex's off him before, and he was kind enough to let me take the watch today, he will call me when one of his on site Rolex technicians has a free slot to service it within in a week time slot. :)

    Really happy with it. :)

    (Now off to a family BBQ, I will post some more pictures later this evening.)

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    Sitting in an AD's safe for 20 years??! Surely not?!

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    That's a cracker. Don't suppose he charged you 1996 price?

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    1978 with a metres first dial. Hmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ach5 View Post
    Sitting in an AD's safe for 20 years??! Surely not?!
    This guy has run the shop for over 50 years and is renowned to be a hoarder, he very rarely sells his vintage models. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by paneristi372 View Post
    That's a cracker. Don't suppose he charged you 1996 price?
    I wish he did..But no.

    He may be 80 odd, but he still has his marbles. :)

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    Damn that's a nice watch mate. Congrats.

    I've been hunting for a '78 for ages and finally gave in a bought a BLNR . . . If you ever get bored of it just let me know!!!

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    1978 with a metres first dial. Hmmm.
    Maybe it's 68.. I will check the serial when I get home and post some pics. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by senraw View Post
    Maybe it's 68.. I will check the serial when I get home and post some pics. :)

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    Yep, 68 sounds more like it, well done if it is, Yikes if it's 78.

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    I agree with Bob, that dial is not 78. You may have stumbled upon the deal of the century here - I hope you have, superb watch and if it turns out to be a genuine 60s meters first watch, God only knows what it is worth, but I suspect a damn sight more than you paid.

    Well done and fingers crossed.

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    Hope it IS 1968.
    If so, cracking deal and chuffed for you.

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    Wow that could be one hell of a story. Congrats on the watch regardless! I just received my first ever Rolex today so im also in a happy new watch mood. But I suspect your story will be cooler :)

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    Still learning on Rolex so all I can say is I love the watch truly stunning. And I hope it is the more valuable model.

    So can someone explain what it means metres first dial? Why is that more valuable? Is it the age only?


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    Stunning Karl
    I don't often get jealous on here these days but in this case I'm prepared to make an exception!
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodacre1983 View Post
    So can someone explain what it means metres first dial? Why is that more valuable? Is it the age only?


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    You are basically right. If you look at the depth rating it is meters first then feet. This layout was only used on the earliest dials and later ones had feet first. There is also a link to the age of watch and serial number range, so if a watch is meters first you would expect it to be made in a certain year and within a certain range of serial numbers. If all these things tie up - hey presto: more valuable.

    Of course condition and matching hands and the overall condition of the watch also come into play.

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    Great find! Happy for you Karl. I just checked the back of my safe; I found some dust :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by W44NNE View Post
    Great find! Happy for you Karl. I just checked the back of my safe; I found some dust :-(
    With all your recent purchases i am surprised you can shut the door...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjc1216 View Post
    With all your recent purchases i am surprised you can shut the door...
    I was going to say the opposite, all the watches that were in there have all been flipped

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    I was going to say the opposite, all the watches that were in there have all been flipped
    Lol I've only flipped a few! Still struggling for space!!

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    Bloody lovely that!

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    Dial lume and hands look right for a 67 ish metres first. That's my hunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetinfloor View Post
    Dial lume and hands look right for a 67 ish metres first. That's my hunch.
    Are they typically the same kind of price as a '78 or .....a little more?

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    Man.. If an old man will ever ask me to help him clean around I'll be happy to comply especially if he's some sort of an antique dealer. Then again, anyone would probably.

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    Congrats to OP. This is akin to striking a lottery.

    My local ADs do their stocktake every year and clean out their safes in the process, so it's never going to happen to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Are they typically the same kind of price as a '78 or .....a little more?
    Both metres first and maxi, especially type 1 and 3 maxi are considered desirable over some other 5513's, but metres first would carry a premium for 2 similar condition watches. I like all 5513's as it happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetinfloor View Post
    Dial lume and hands look right for a 67 ish metres first. That's my hunch.
    The worry is that if the op has been told it's a 78 then it's a redial, hopefully he has the date wrong but he will need to check the serial no. to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    The worry is that if the op has been told it's a 78 then it's a redial, hopefully he has the date wrong but he will need to check the serial no. to be sure.
    Agreed, serial will reveal all - looks like a good metres first dial so could be onto a winner anyway if needs changed to correct 1978 dial. My hunch is that it's an earlier watch.

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    Just had a massive deja vu. I'm sure a post was put up recently exactly the same as this, with an ad funding something in the back of a safe (can't find an emoticon for scratching head)

    Looks a peach Karl, will be interesting to hear how the dial/date mystery unravels

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    Loosks great. No doubt the forum dealers like MarcJ will jump on this once it's flipped on SC

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    Just home from the BBQ.

    Removed the bracelet and it was grimy....

    Quick wipe reveals a 7 digit reference between the lower lugs starting 155****


    1966/67! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by senraw View Post
    Just home from the BBQ.

    Removed the bracelet and it was grimy....

    Quick wipe reveals a 7 digit reference between the lower lugs starting 155****


    1966/67! :)
    Jammy beggar. Congrats :-)

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    Are you going to tell the dealer?

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    Well done fella, looks like you have a nice genuine 67 metres first, well done.

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    Birth year alert! I'm even more jealous
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Amazing! Massive congrats - great find!

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    Thanks guys. :)

    It didn't come with box or papers through... But you don't wear them. ;)

    How rare/valuable are these 67 ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by senraw View Post
    Thanks guys. :)



    How rare/valuable are these 67 ones?
    Really really rare and worth a fortune, Ime only saying that cos I have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    Really really rare and worth a fortune, Ime only saying that cos I have one.
    I am a newbie still, and 1968 was a great year for me ....so fancy a watch from then, but how much is "worth a fortune" please, ball park ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfish View Post
    I am a newbie still, and 1968 was a great year for me ....so fancy a watch from then, but how much is "worth a fortune" please, ball park ish
    I was only kidding, the way to get an indication of pricing is have a look on Chrono 24 and that will give you an idea. The thing with vintage is its all about condition so prices can vary widely for the same model from the same year, I doubt you would get a decent example below £5k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    Really really rare and worth a fortune, Ime only saying that cos I have one.
    I do hope you're right!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    I was only kidding, the way to get an indication of pricing is have a look on Chrono 24 and that will give you an idea. The thing with vintage is its all about condition so prices can vary widely for the same model from the same year, I doubt you would get a decent example below £5k.
    Thankyou 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by groyn View Post
    I do hope you're right!


    AMAZING!

    You couldn't ask for a better Set! :)

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    Great looking 5513 wear it in best of health

    Definite keeper that one imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by senraw View Post
    AMAZING!

    You couldn't ask for a better Set! :)
    Thank you. I don't need to tell you, but don't flip yours! It's lovely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groyn View Post
    Thank you. I don't need to tell you, but don't flip yours! It's lovely.
    I think I will be sensible with this one, it will probably be a good future investment.

    I can't see 5513's getting any cheaper.

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    If he sells a '68 as a '78, don't let him anywhere near your watch with screwdrivers ;)

    Love it.

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    Fantastic!!

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    ^^^^I was thinking similar thoughts ;)

    (also don't let him discover the serial number....)

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